Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

2 weeks = USA gonna replenish Israeli supply of munitions and Israel gets a break from Lebanese and Iranian front

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For Iran = US pulls back some demands and puts forth new proposal. Trump appears less humiliated so he can calm down and say he won war even if demands aren't met

Iran can dig up few missiles and reposition some stuff to allow for 20-30 missile barrage on Israel on day 1 of resumed war but after that goes back to normal

Chances are this leads to permanent ceasefire. However it resets Trump 60 days, allows him to go to war from get go again. Gives time for Pentagon to draft new strike options
Even with replenishments for Israel(only Israel at this point if we don’t see that these Arab countries are being thrown to the wolves what else can we say about everything burning down all around them)these interceptors aren’t going to come out of thin air they are either they’re either going to go to Israel or American troops no 50/50 spilt not enough as we are seeing to go around at this point……no more people saying everything is a drop in the ocean when it comes to American defensive or offensive reserves
 
I suspect America will still attack. Just like last time. Negotiations are a ruse.

The real power is Israel and they are calling the shots.

NuttyYahoo knows this is it. He needs this war to continue.

Do NOT listen to Trump. Ignore Pakistan (They are the Oman of this phase)... See what IsraHell is saying. They are the ones who have the Epstein Blackmail on Trumpy.
They are attacking right now. It isn't as if the two sides are not firing on each other daily, in large volume. So what ruse are you talking about when a live war is already going on?

This situation is nothing like Oman's peace-efforts. Those were happening before hostilities started. Now we have full-fledged war going on with a chance of getting a lot bloodier and damaging.

Details and facts matter.
 
To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

A lot of this is smoke and mirrors

Let's take the possible two week extension, their may not be any resolution in two weeks

However it's a further two weeks of Hormuz closure without some crazy U.S bombing campaign


People are looking from the outside and second guessing the diplomatic gamesmanship being played by all parties

Much of what Pakistan is doing, Iran will be in on and it will be centered on trying to stop the U.S going full retard
 
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Yeah like Shabaz sharif is Oxford graduate to be able to compile this tweet .. off course Someone drafted it for him... Conspiracy theory 😂 😂
His older brother famous URDU LINE IS
"HUM PAKISTAN KO CHAND KA RAKH DEIN GAY" MIAN NAWAZ SHARIF...
 
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I can assure Ryan Grim it isn't PM Shahbaz posting those messages.
:)

It is his staff and they are adjusting the messages by the minute given how quickly things are moving.
 
Unless Israel gets hurt, nothing matters. The US and Israel won't mind the Gulf getting destroyed. They are only concerned about Harmuz and the oil supply.
So, Iran can prolong, and the region keeps getting softer for Israel to dominate. Therefore, if Iran can cause significant damage to Israel somehow, the war won't stop. The US doesn't care about petrol prices and their effects on the rest of the world.
 
To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

Brother i will speak plainly. Pakistan doesnt give a **** about iran or iranian people. Nor does it particularly care about arabs. Some Pakistanis may care for either of them but they are personal opinions and not state policy. The official state policy of government of Pakistan is protecting the interests of Pakistan and part of that is ensuring affordable energy supply to Pakistan which can only be done via an open strait and stable prices. Pakistan is trying to do a ceasefire and trying to stop strikes to protect itself from energy shocks nothing else. This is something both iranians and Pakistanis fail to understand. As much i as a Pakistani support iran against Zionist aggression i will not be open to a blockade of straits as that harms my country Pakistan and its intrests.
 
I mean if Iranians are not happy then they can reject the PM's proposal, its not like SS is pressuring Iran to accept it, if any Iranian leader accept SS terms and Iranians don't like it then they can either hang their leaders or elect new ones. Simple
 

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