Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Hassan Al-Somal said:
"The bullshit tactic of Israel supporters is to pretend the bad parts of Israel are due to Netanyahu, so that once he's gone, everyone can and should go back to loving Israel.

Netanyahu is fully representative of Israel. That's why he's been in power 19 years. What comes after him will be more sociopathic. Netanyahu is the by-product of the evils of that country, not the cause."


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Glenn Greenwald, as usual, is spot on.

Bibi isn't reviled by lots of Israelis because he is committing perpetual war crimes and genocide, rather he is disliked because he is not efficient enough at carrying out those tasks.
 
ShapurII said:
Annual transportation is not going to keep a country alive when its currency is on the verge of entering hyperinflation and there's no clear vision for getting out of this situation. Food prices have increased by 60% since the beginning of the US military operation in Iran. 60% increase in less than 60 days! Rent is already 100% more expensive than the same time in last year. Iran's economy was already collapsing before the war and an economic blockade is the last nail in the coffin.

And what makes you think that there will be no boots on the ground? Do you think the US is accumulating tens of thousands of soldiers in the south of Iran for fun? The southern countries of the Persian Gulf are not such a fun and entertaining place to be in May. Even most of their tourist attractions close in May.
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Russia also fell into vicious inflation at the beginning. As long as you have resources, why should you be afraid of inflation? Taking a step back, why do you think the Chinese government will not provide loans to Iran?
 
LC150 said:
The fall out of the war on the Shia community in Pakistan.... glad NYT covered it


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5 days ago — With deep spiritual ties to Iran, Pakistan's minority Shiites are angry about the killing of Iran's top clerics in U.S.-Israeli strikes, ...

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Standard western copium explainer article - "it's the shias who are pissed".

Actually, everyone is pissed.

USA will be forcibly weaned from its zio-narco lifestyle sooner or later. This would be a win for the whole world, not just shias.
 
This war is very similar to 2006' war between Hezbollah and IDF, when Hezbollah cemented its status as most powerful non state player in the world...

But on much bigger scale...

Iran unprecedented winner in narrative war...and political most important victory...

And also Hezbollah's experience and later mistake...but nowadays Trump gave them new wings...
 
vmro said:
This war is very similar to 2006' war between Hezbollah and IDF, when Hezbollah cemented its status as most powerful non state player in the world...

But on much bigger scale...

Iran unprecedented winner in narrative war...and political most important victory...

And also Hezbollah's experience and later mistake...but nowadays Trump gave them new wings...
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Whatever the US could do it’s already tried doin it no? Over the 40 day war.

Irans come out of it victorious.

No US boots on da ground = No US victory
 
unconventional said:
It goes both ways: these ceasefire and talks gives BOTH sides the chance to “re-arm/re-fuel” and address their vulnerabilities.
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Ceasefires actually play right into America's hands. Iran is never going to "beat" the U.S. in a straight-up war anyway; the whole point is to use this conflict to shake American hegemony and force them to rethink their aggressive stance toward Iran.

If Iran keeps flipping back and forth on a ceasefire now, all those undecided countries will think Iran is weak-willed and run straight back to the U.S. If that happens, Iran's strategic goals will be pretty much dead in the water.
 
Immortals said:
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These are the things you draw red lines on... things that dictate whether you negotiate or not... set warnings... put everyone on notice.
Remember, bases were evacuated because it was known that they'd be targeted, because they couldn't be protected, because concentrations were detrimental, because radars, equipment and materiel was exposed... it is more so now considering key facilities and much of interception capabilities have been lost... worse movements are seen and gauged real time. The decisions seem to have been made by zion to expose US troops to the max and burn this bridge once and for all...

Play catch up with American electorate in coming years as they lose sight to much immediate and greater concerns at home... with no prospects, high inflation and short term memories. At this point even zion doesn't see a win but seeks as much of Iran minus America equation as possible with limited damage to itself... just to crown itself in the short term as America collapses and Iran diminished...

Reflects how dire they assume their own prospects owing to miliekowsky own legal national and international issues and zion possible last hand in US. It is exactly why the bluster of orange clown has hollowed US out at the top and decision making levels with firings and resignations. Kent therefore would be the foremost in not only acknowledging this but calling it out loud. As US works as proxy for rats tail... overtly! as humiliating as it gets...
 
Frogen said:
Ceasefires actually play right into America's hands. Iran is never going to "beat" the U.S. in a straight-up war anyway; the whole point is to use this conflict to shake American hegemony and force them to rethink their aggressive stance toward Iran.

If Iran keeps flipping back and forth on a ceasefire now, all those undecided countries will think Iran is weak-willed and run straight back to the U.S. If that happens, Iran's strategic goals will be pretty much dead in the water.
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It’s so over no? What flipping? What undecided toady?

Are you serious?

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It’s commercial news now what’s actually happening
 
MH.Yang said:
Russia also fell into vicious inflation at the beginning. As long as you have resources, why should you be afraid of inflation? Taking a step back, why do you think the Chinese government will not provide loans to Iran?
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Because hyperinflation will eventually lead to the collapse of the system, as it happened in the Weimar Republic, Venezuela and even Zimbabwe. The Islamic Republic is already on thin ice.

I don't think China would risk US sanctions and tariffs to do that.
 
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