Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

RocketLaw said:
Incorrect - actually I remember that land border was completely closed for 6 months (November 2011 til July 2012) AND yes we closed its airspace to NATO/US + their Shamsi airfield base.

US apologized it after 6 months and regretted it.

Please google first, please double check and verify it before typing nonsense.
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Yes, land border was closed. I didn't dispute that, but is that an acceptable response to a nation that has literally slaughtered your soldiers? Seriously? I'm lost for words.

And no, there was no 'official' apology, just 'regrets' - not that I'd ever accept an apology to begin with.
 
Hazard said:
No, I'm sorry but that's just cope. You had one military that was pounding our soldiers and our top command was literally on the hot line begging Americans to stop. And our response was to close the borders - if you find that an acceptable response then I don't know what to say.

And no, they didn't need to repeat again, they humiliated us enough and continued to do so by using our OWN bases against our OWN citizens every single day, whilst we sat down and watched. This is utterly pathetic and shameful past of our nation. If you want to know what an appropriate response is, look next door at Iranians. That's what you call having self respect.

My point is simple, we're no match against major world countries and we need to humble ourself and accept the bitter reality, whilst at the same time work hard to improve the state of our nation.
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What pounding are you talking about?

The check posts came under attack and they retaliated, immediately. The chances are the Americans disposed of those responsible for the incident and kept it hush hush.

You are way too over impressed by mortal humans.
 
Hazard said:
No, I'm sorry but that's just cope. You had one military that was pounding our soldiers and our top command was literally on the hot line begging Americans to stop. And our response was to close the borders - if you find that an acceptable response then I don't know what to say.

And no, they didn't need to repeat again, they humiliated us enough and continued to do so by using our OWN bases against our OWN citizens every single day, whilst we sat down and watched. This is utterly pathetic and shameful past of our nation. If you want to know what an appropriate response is, look next door at Iranians. That's what you call having self respect.

My point is simple, we're no match against major world countries and we need to humble ourself and accept the bitter reality, whilst at the same time work hard to improve the state of our nation.
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They always had a permission from the Pakistani govt to use the facilities and take actions.

The Pakistani govt sold its own people, otherwise no one could have dared do that. It was the Pakistani rulers with their monies, properties, investments and kids going to the schools in the USA who didn't even bother to think of sayin "no", because you know, the green cards and the student visas and passports for their families and children.



The Americans might be prideful, but they are not stupid to provoke a nuclear power into a conflict.
 
Hazard said:
Yes, land border was closed. I didn't dispute that, but is that an acceptable response to a nation that has literally slaughtered your soldiers? Seriously? I'm lost for words.

And no, there was no 'official' apology, just 'regrets' - not that I'd ever accept an apology to begin with.
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Brother, Pakistan is very different today compared to old Pakistan times.

What Pakistan did at that time after Salalah attack was the exact right response, that's expected. That's it. Simple as that.

Let's create a new thread if you want to discuss further away from Iran-US here
 
So it has nothing to do with Iran and honestly not an advocate of anyone getting harmed or whatsoever but god damn that is one speedy little sucker that is actually embarrassing that they actually showed it from secret service agent who seemed extremely bored people who weren’t paying attention to the entrance omg some people need to get fired 🤦 sorry I know nothing to do with the thread but pretty hilarious
 
Hazard said:
Yes, land border was closed. I didn't dispute that, but is that an acceptable response to a nation that has literally slaughtered your soldiers? Seriously? I'm lost for words.

And no, there was no 'official' apology, just 'regrets' - not that I'd ever accept an apology to begin with.
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Why do you keep saying "slaughtered"? It was a fire fight. Both sides opened fire on each other.
 
Meengla said:
At least in case of the Vietnam War, there was the staged Gulf of Tonkien. And in many other wars--wars on communism and wars on terror--there were attempts to rally the American support and even try to get some support in the UN.
But this war on Iran is launched without hardly making a 'case' for it. No 'manufacturing consent' this time. And that shows how dangerous and arrogant Donald Trump is. He is acting like Netanyahu acts in Gaza, in the West Bank, and in Lebanon, and now also Netanyahu acts like that in Syria.
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No the case was made. Trump finally made billions like he always dreamed of.

The Iran side is also not being rational. They are risking an all out war with a nuclear armed power and seem to have no concerns about their cities being turned into radioactive wastelands with around 20 million dead after the first few nuclear strike if that happens.

Something else is going on. Nothing is making sense.
 
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Laundry issue again
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I think soldiers are doing this intentionally because they do not support this illegal war.
 
Al-Zakir said:
I think soldiers are doing this intentionally because they do not support this illegal war.
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Yeah that's what I thought too. Not sure why this is happening frequently now, probably you are right.

I never seen it during Iraq war 2003 to 2011.
 

True cost of Iran War: $50B, not $25B, sources say​

Just a drop in the ocean imagine a war that cost American military 50 billion dollars in damage hardware base and spent munition again so far just an estimate Israel let’s say 20 billion, it has cost uae about 120 billion in total so far,only information Saudis are making available is 30 billion dollars let’s just say it’s a lot lot more,Kuwait is being tight lipped only thing is your getting is about a billion spent on air defenses,20 billion in known Qatar damages and Jordan ain’t saying nothing honestly they brag about the beating they did on Iran but I think it’s way more even on paper than anything especially Iran was hitting multiple countries nonstop
 
Al-Zakir said:
I think soldiers are doing this intentionally because they do not support this illegal war.
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Yeah a lot of advanced state of the art ships with advanced fire extinguishing mechanisms all of a sudden are going up in flame weird………I don’t blame these soldiers if they were doing it honestly I wouldn’t want to fyi into a war that isn’t about America FIRST but Bibi FRIST
 
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