Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Meengla]

Cannot happen though, Israel is Usa outpost in the middleeast, they will protect them economically and militarily, in another words Usa will not leave until Israeli exists, and no doubt Israel has its own agenda, to expand territory, to keep neighbours in flame or under their thumb, and keep their militaries in check.

Don't be so sure. America is a democracy after all and a big change of public opinion is always impossible to ignore. Thus I see this as Israel's 'last chance': As long as both Trump and Netanyahu are sitting in their offices at the same time, Israel can count on almost unlimited American support.
In the unlikely event of a real progressive Democratic President in 2028, you'd see a very different American stance in the Middle East. Even now, if Trump has a heart attack today, a POTUS Vance will be significantly different about this war. You may bookmark this post.
This war is essentially Trump's personal war. The Emperor Trump's war.

 

[Persian Gulf]

1 IDF terrorist killed and 7 other IDF terrorists injured (3 seriously injured) in Hezbollah FPV strike in south Lebanon today





one of the injured is the commander of the IDF's "elite" Shaked Battalion which is famous for war crimes against Palestinians

 

[Aryan_B]

I cant keep up with this guy I wonder if he knows his ass from his elbow lol

 

[lightning f57]

Ali Abdollahi had them agreeing a ceasefire within minutes lmao

What I am reading here is the US knows this could trigger a restart of the war and they are low on interceptors and probably precision strike weapons. They are biding time I am sure of it, I hope Iran is also using the time to re-arm.

 

[Aryan_B]

Don't be so sure. America is a democracy after all and a big change of public opinion is always impossible to ignore. Thus I see this as Israel's 'last chance': As long as both Trump and Netanyahu are sitting in their offices at the same time, Israel can count on almost unlimited American support.
In the unlikely event of a real progressive Democratic President in 2028, you'd see a very different American stance in the Middle East. Even now, if Trump has a heart attack today, a POTUS Vance will be significantly different about this war. You may bookmark this post.
This war is essentially Trump's personal war. The Emperor Trump's war.

Its a mirage of democracy. No accountability at all as far as I can see you lie and lie and only come back is you might not get elected next election thats it

 

[Aryan_B]

Again, I must caution everyone: predicting a win with any certainty for any side is premature still, at this stage. War is always unpredictable as to its final outcomes, just as water is wet.

time might tell as they say

 

[Cash gk]

I cant keep up with this guy I wonder if he knows his ass from his elbow lol

Whenever his trades are in loss, he tweets.. whenever he wants to change the direction of trades he tweets. He manipulates the market.. we all know Iranians not going to talk on uranium and this Talk cannot be successful. Second, Americans want to keep busy iran and let Israelis have time to destroy Lebanon to occupy more territories and . destabilize more countries weekends more countries.. UAE took the path of destabilization being Israeli friend. And Lebanon took the path of resistance like Iranians, American and Israeli policy is to destabilize all region to allow Israelis to settle down their power on rest of all Arab countries

 

[tsunset]

 

[Meengla]

Its a mirage of democracy. No accountability at all as far as I can see you lie and lie and only come back is you might not get elected next election thats it

Granted that power, especially to wage wars, are increasingly concentrated in the POTUS, there had been cases where where the POTUS had to bow out of elections/lost because of foreign policy debacles; Johnson and Carter come to mind quicky.
I'd just say that if today Trump has a heart attack and Vance becomes the POTUS, you'd see a quick wrap up of this war. Israelis and their lobbies in America, though funding both Trump and Harris in 2024, left no doubt who was their much preferred candidate: Trump and he has not disappointed them.
But it is a separate debate.

 

[Cash gk]

Whatever he's tweeting it is useless unless Israelis destroy whole Lebanon. Until this whole negotiation is just a drama

 

[Persian Gulf]

now we know the attacks on the container ship near Iraq were Iran's response to the US attacking an Iranian container ship returning from Pakistan

Iran's military leadership is growing in confidence and responding to every US breach of the ceasefire

 

[Immortals]

 

[VCheng]

Wars aren’t really unpredictable.

Especially in modern times.

Please feel free to predict as much as you like. I will wait and see the results - the ones that actually happen in real life - before opining.

Even in modern warfare, not all of the events are predictable, and neither are their effects on the conduct of the war.

Maybe Trump will have a stroke, or Israel will get a lucky shot at the new Rahber. Or any number of other equally unpredictable factors may influence the conduct of the war by both sides.

Who knows? Do you?

 

[SolarWarden]

I suspect Trump is delaying war until the US has precise intelligence on the locations of top Iranian military leaders (particularly Ali Abdollahi and Majid Mousavi) and an opportunity arises to target them.

No. Orangeman is delaying war until the World Cup and US 250th 4th of July celebration is over. US ISR knows where IRGC leadership is. After the 4th of July Orangeman is going to unleash on Iran unless IRGC agrees with Orangeman's terms which they will not and Orangeman hopes they don't.

If I were IRGC knowing that we're not giving up our enriched uranium I'd strike first after the 4th of July with whatever is left before US and Israel launch another massive strike. Go out with a bang.

 

[Lulldapull]

Cannot happen though, Israel is Usa outpost in the middleeast, they will protect them economically and militarily, in another words Usa will not leave until Israeli exists, and no doubt Israel has its own agenda, to expand territory, to keep neighbours in flame or under their thumb, and keep their militaries in check.

Oh bhai this Irani war has certainly not gone on the script at all.

Every man n his dog got exposed as phuss basically.

Most elders now openly blurt out that we are in uncharted waters.

Iran was supposed to have collapsed long ago like all them other 'do do rupay k muzlim mumalik'

That just didn't happen and most likely will not happen.

So what do we do now?