Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

But then by your theory, we should see massive economic benefits and US contributed human development in Iran.

Not necessarily. It will fill their pockets for sure, but what will happen to Iran completely depends on the US plans for the region. And I don't think the US plans for the Middle East include a strong, prosperous Iran.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[ShapurII]

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Eşbah]

While the precision is certainly impressive, I wonder why it took IRGC so long to destroy this obvious target?

 

[Lulldapull]

Modi clearly pissed off Daddy.

There can be only one 56" chest.

He been quietly paying that toll to the Iranians at night out on them open waters and sneaking in the LPG/ crude/ LNG/ fertilizer without tellin big daddy trump.

He thought he could get away with it.....being seaky.......but trump was watchin him......

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

This is reality in couple of decades all american power will be gone, USD trash, rabid woke population in civil war, India cleaning Americans from Indian ocean, Chinese doing same in Asia Pacific, Russian in Europe and our bros Latinos helping old world making sure American home land looks like a dis functioning toothless cartel , you think this will not become true ….
USD is slowly being ditched look around most of large countries are slowly transitioning to local currencies trades thats not hopium thats happening right now and will accelerate.

India cleaning the US from the Indian Ocean? That is some solid delusions. India can't manage to hold its own against Pakistan.

 

[Hayabusa]

India cleaning the US from the Indian Ocean? That is some solid delusions. India can't manage to hold its own against Pakistan.

This I agree.

Forget about managing its own against Pakistan. Try to avenge their 3 Indian sailors first that has been eliminated recently.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

I have fought the neocons and warmongers in Washington for more than 25 years. Throughout, they have tried to silence, discredit, slander, and cancel me. Only recently, however, have they tried to deport me.

At least, that appears to have been the aim of a hit piece in Bari Weiss’s The Free Press, which claimed that Marco Rubio’s State Department was “investigating” me for allegedly seeking to “undermine the U.S.”—presumably because of my opposition to war with Iran.

Yet just hours later, the State Department issued a statement to reporters clarifying that “the State Department has no plans to revoke the green card of Mr. Parsi at this time.” Nor did it provide any confirmation for the central premise of the Free Press story—that an investigation of me existed in the first place.

So here’s what I think happened.

Read the full piece on my Substack:

So they tried to deport me…

The Free Press reported that the State Department was preparing to deport me. But it appears the hit piece was designed to trigger a deportation.

tritaparsi.substack.com

 

[ShapurII]

"Pet Marco Rubio" killed me

 

[niubi]

While supa powa USA running away from a sanctioned Iran with no Air Force and Navy , weren’t USA was kind of treaty partner of Pakistan when India split Pakistan into two in 1971, what happened then you pissed you pants while trying to enter Bay of Bengal when India was not even 10% of of her current power.
Rest world is seeing how USA cant even hold its own against Iran while begging Iran to sign a deal

If only India can fully join and commit to the anti-imperialist (anti-US and west) bandwagon with the Arab world which partially whores itself out to the West still despite history.

So far only China does any real work in this department and one could argue Russia too. Latin America is doing its part but less so due to principle and more for just profit. North Korea is useless and Iran just stepped up right to the front line.

Imagine if India and all of the Arab world commit fully, then your posts would indeed be fated for the US. Right now, the US despite much weaker than it has been and on severe decline, is still an absolute juggernaut owing to the momentum of its past strength and the sheer size of its population and capabilities. The current state of the world is still everyone looking after themselves only while the Western united world which is already the wealthiest and strongest, continue exploiting everyone with the sheer scale of its dominance over humanity and because it is so united in preserving its hegemony. In fact much of the non-western world do more harm to each other (often at the behest and initiation of the West).

 

[niubi]

India was always committed against imperialism from west, it was china who went in bed and slept with USA against USSR in 70s and stayed till 90s, right now on time to time you see Chinese giving free pass to USA because both of their economies are intertwined.
Fact is chinese are most non serious about multipolar world because they want same hegemony with Chinese characteristics, in-fact chinese are reason why SWIFT alternative was not adopted widely, because Chinese wanted chinese system so now each BRICS is doing thr own thing.

Now apply same logic to China which you applied to India and it fits perfectly.

You can check which nation has put the largest number of cases in WTO against USA and west, its India while Chinese are just followed west in those areas.

Also regarding de dollarisation, India is doing trade with Russia, UAE, Latin America and Africa in their local currencies, India never buys Fighter Jets from Americans even though they are ready to sell F-35 thats because India retains a wild mistrust of USA.

China built a relation with the West in the 1970s to 1990s so as to ignite its modernisation after decades of Maoism and Communism. After reforms, it recognised the need to modernise and there was no other way to achieve this than to forge some working relation.

Despite that, the entire time, China never was an ally of the West. You can make a point about how China and USSR relation soured and then China went to the West. In reality, it was just exploiting Western hatred of the USSR while China also had lots of unresolved issues with the USSR. Most forces were focused on the USSR than towards the east back then. Two birds situation. China was fearful of USSR expansion and had soured relations with USSR after Stalin and Kruschev disliked China and Mao. China saw an opportunity to extract benefits from the West during this period and more effectively counter USSR while also finding a way to modernise.

Now, China is the country consistently doing the most to counter the West. Iran is to be mentioned of course.

Putting cases to the WTO against the US is pretty pointless to be honest. Particularly for China that needs to treat the WTO with due respect given how exposed China's economy is to the whims of the masters of such entities. It's a completely different minefield China and India navigate in the world.

De-dollarisation is great. More power to it and more of it.

 

[delta2]

While supa powa USA running away from a sanctioned Iran with no Air Force and Navy , weren’t USA was kind of treaty partner of Pakistan when India split Pakistan into two in 1971, what happened then you pissed you pants while trying to enter Bay of Bengal when India was not even 10% of of her current power.
Rest world is seeing how USA cant even hold its own against Iran while begging Iran to sign a deal

Just ONE US Navy Ohio class submarine can annihilate an entire country the size of Iran at least 10 times over.

This is a corrupt and very quick way for Trump and his cronies to make hundreds of billions of $$ from market speculation over the weekend while the Zionists tried to plunge the USA into another war as a side salad.

Even the Russians wouldn't want to go up against the US Navy submarine fleet.

The 1971 issue was in internal civil war set up by the Soviet KGB which trained Mujeeb and the likes, who took advantage of failure of govt response to floods from prior years and made it an issue of ethnicity and language.

The USA didn't need to send anything except one submarine at that time to send shiver down India's spine.

The USA was mostly concerned about the USSR and was focused entirely on Vietnam at that time.

A single Ohio class submarine can completely annihilate India before lunch and the Indians wouldn't even see it coming.

On their own the Indians couldn't cut a cow in half. So let's just be grown ups here.

 

[IceCold]

It will be interesting to see if the new Gwadar/Karachi land corridor from Pakistan to Iran gets reversed back to UAE once the war is over, or if Iran decides to keep it ( ideally Iran keeps it but their choice ! ).

I wouldn't bet on it. Iran wasn't willing to sign the deal in Pakistan and preferred Geneva when we went as far as deploying our assets to protect them. They would most likely revert to UAE all things considered.

 

[KAL-EL]

Just ONE US Navy Ohio class submarine can annihilate an entire country the size of Iran at least 10 times over.

One Ohio class SSBN is essentially a civilization ender. I hope to God it's never used.

And if so used, Only as second strike capability