Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[VCheng]

There will probably be arms deal and cooperation between US and Iran if the final deal is signed

F-16 F-15 and cooperation for warships

People laugh at this but with Trump everything is possible

Not just Trump, anything is possible in geopolitics, because there are never any permanent enemies or friends, only national interests.

If such an alignment can be created between USA and Iran, then what you suggest is perfectly possible.

That is why I keep saying that it is wise to wait for the text of the MoU and see what final arrangements are made possible by it in 60 days.

What's the rush to declare victory for any side? Let peace take hold, and everything else can be figured out and discussed when there is actual information available to do so.

Premature speculation is only for small minds of the chattering classes.

 

[VCheng]

Glad that idiot goes - he has radicalized the military and actually stripped professionalism while wasting time on his so called killer instinct bs.

One extreme was Obama to Biden trannies in the military joining for sex change benefits and now its wannabe crusaders PoGs taking over actual warfighting professionals

Be afraid of the idiot that replaces him, for that is the one rule of the Circus Cabinet of the Chief Clown - one must be an idiot to be a part of his cabinet, and every replacement must be an even bigger one.

 

[Lulldapull]

There will probably be arms deal and cooperation between US and Iran if the final deal is signed

F-16 F-15 and cooperation for warships

People laugh at this but with Trump everything is possible

Good god…….who on earth will still buy US arms now? After this Iran war?

Are you kidding?

Look at Japan now…….only thing Japan purchased recently were the newer version tomahawks.

 

[KingQamaR]

They ran out of targets.

American can continue air bombing iran. But it’s hard to achieve victory when you don’t have objectives brother, nor victory conditions. Nobody ever won a war without boots on the ground.

 

[SolarWarden]

Trump is suddenly in love with the Aye-ranians ??

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[jamal18]

Yes, the same history books the American high command was reading about China lol.

The Chinese took the WHOLE of North Korea from the combined forces of almost the whole world lead by the USA. They would have eventually taken Seoul.

The Chinese have used the push-pull tactic several times during many of their wars and it always works.

The Chinese would be in a battle and begin to pull back, the enemy would start thinking they are being defeated, they move in forward and fall into trap where China beats the crap out of them from a better position causing severe losses and pushes them back, then pulls back again. The enemy thinks it was China's last do-or-die stance and that is why China pulled back even though the tide was on their side. The enemies try again and after a few battles they get pushed back more and more.

That is how China took all of North Korea. They would have eventually taken Seoul and then the rest of the South if the war had kept going on.

The USSR convinced China to sign the ceasefire otherwise there would have been no South Korea today.

I understand that the US told the Soviet Union that if the war continued they would use nuclear weapons. This is what stopped the war.
A US academic who was a lecturer at the war college wrote a book in which he said that the US has not won a war since WW2; implying that the US did not win in Korea.

 

[RocketLaw]

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[Jagga Badmash]

American can continue air bombing iran. But it’s hard to achieve victory when you don’t have objectives brother, nor victory conditions. Nobody ever won a war without boots on the ground.

During first Gulf war American didn't not put boots on ground but they continue to weaken Iraq until Saddam ran out of defensive equipment even with the help of UN and severe sanction Saddam force to destroy UN allowed range missiles but still they made lame excuse and capture Iraq, Now you are witnessing USA / Israel scuffle even verbal but in reality this is eye wash because most of the European nations turned against Israel that is why US / Israel just playing drama and all this packs and hush hush is just to buy time in order to re-arm and attack Iran in another way.

 

[FUB]

I took time off to see Team Melli play. The positive thing was that there were 70k in attendance. The downside was that it was a political rally both outside and inside. I had my Team Melli Jersey from the 2006 World Cup. The security warned about walking into a hostile atmosphere while wearing that jersey. With all of the noise, once the game started, everyone was chanting Iran Iran, Iran.

 

[Optical216]

do not ignore the UAE, these bastards also might join the next round. No way this Iran-Israel Business is finished.

 

[Goenitz]

Good god…….who on earth will still buy US arms now? After this Iran war?

Are you kidding?

Look at Japan now…….only thing Japan purchased recently were the newer version tomahawks.

The weapon sale will continue; in fact will increase once US bases are gone from West Asia.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[AZ_HighCountry]

During first Gulf war American didn't not put boots on ground but they continue to weaken Iraq until Saddam ran out of defensive equipment even with the help of UN and severe sanction Saddam force to destroy UN allowed range missiles but still they made lame excuse and capture Iraq, Now you are witnessing USA / Israel scuffle even verbal but in reality this is eye wash because most of the European nations turned against Israel that is why US / Israel just playing drama and all this packs and hush hush is just to buy time in order to re-arm and attack Iran in another way.

Odd......I wonder now what we were doing in Kuwait at the time? And I assume buddies who pursued the Iraqis back across the border weren't in Iraq.

The Battle of 73 Easting was in Iraq.

 

[Optical216]

I hope we are all in consensus that it is definitely not over yet, i think there will be a 3rd Round which might not involve the US though.

 

[Meengla]

I an Brenner briefly talking about the role of UAE/Israel vs Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Also mentions China and Iran in future alignments.
A few minutes enough to watch from this point.

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