Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

kobra said:
Seems like that hitting US naval ships let alone ACC is out of capabilities of Iranian naval/missile forces. Iran should continue to wreck havoc on US interests in PGCC
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Its an asymmetric war, some are asking why Iran is doing this, they are missing the bigger picture. Whether we think its right morally is a different question.
 
kobra said:
Seems like that hitting US naval ships let alone ACC is out of capabilities of Iranian naval/missile forces. Iran should continue to wreck havoc on US interests in PGCC
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US Ships are hundreds of miles out. They don't phyically escort anything. No US navy ship is anywhere in the entire Persian Gulf, there is zero evidence of that. They emptied the entire naval base before the war. All they do is drone and helicopter escorts. That's it. To shoot down drones. That's not sustainable.
 
Nawnaw1 said:
US Ships are hundreds of miles out. They don't phyically escort anything. No US navy ship is anywhere in the entire Persian Gulf, there is zero evidence of that. They emptied the entire naval base before the war. All they do is drone and helicopter escorts. That's it. To shoot down drones. That's not sustainable.
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USAF is involved in thes Escorts and attacks.. Heavy air tankers activity is going over Hormuz.. Tankers refuel JEts, not drones or helis.. these jets are flying from Pgcc bases and maybe from ACCs..
 
kobra said:
USAF is involved in thes Escorts and attacks.. Heavy air tankers activity is going over Hormuz.. Tankers refuel JEts, not drones or helis.. these jets are flying from Pgcc bases and maybe from ACCs..
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Yes indeed, but my point was, no naval ships are escorting anything. You think it's sustainable or even a strategy to keep dozens of fighter jets flying over the Oman area every day? It's ridiculous and posturing. Trying to get Iran to give a finger so they can take the whole hand.

Remember days ago a Sea Hawk 'crashed'? Doing escorts. Same with the Apaches a few weeks ago.
 
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Immortals said:
First of all you cannot force a country to use your territorial waters. So no Iran couldn’t put that explicitly in the MoU, legally speaking.

So it was agreed between Iran and Oman that they would set up a mechanism to equally charge tolls. Then share that revenue. Hence Iran would get revenue regardless of which lane was used.

But then later U.S. told Oman if you charge tolls we will obliterate you. And Oman backed off the idea and became complicit with the West and Arabs.
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What you want little Oman to do?
 
Persian Gulf said:
Will Iran wait hours and allow the U.S. to bomb Iran freely before responding as usual? Rhetorical question…
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In a way... it works for the better... as bad as it sounds. As the attack was coming regardless. Forcing the hand and catching mid prep works to Iran's advantage... as Iran would hope that all ends are not tied for an encore.
It means another attempt with a half tank that will peter out without delivering results. Eat away precious time and help further the leverage. Of course, it means that a price is paid...
With focus entirely on the result.
 
Immortals said:
First of all you cannot force a country to use your territorial waters. So no Iran couldn’t put that explicitly in the MoU, legally speaking.

So it was agreed between Iran and Oman that they would set up a mechanism to equally charge tolls. Then share that revenue. Hence Iran would get revenue regardless of which lane was used.

But then later U.S. told Oman if you charge tolls we will obliterate you. And Oman backed off the idea and became complicit with the West and Arabs.
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MOU is explicit that no tolls will be charged for 60 days. Iran and Oman were discussing a form of tolls for after those 60 days
 
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