Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Nawnaw1]

Too late, Iran lost control of the strait when it raced to get its 40M barrels of oil out of the PG while U.S. raced to get the 100M in tankers out.

Oman also backstabbed Iran and allowed the world to use its waters.

What are you basing this on? Are you not seeing what is happening? Striking tankers is 'lost control'? You think shipping 1-2 tankers a day with sheer fear and terror and aerial cover is sustainable? Or 'open transit'? Come on.

 

[kobra]

If war resumes again, Which it will sooner or later, Bab il Bandab is going to be closed this time along with Hormuz as well

 

[Nawnaw1]

Will Iran wait hours and allow the U.S. to bomb Iran freely before responding as usual? Rhetorical question…

Iran will reply of course. If they don't, it's a slippery slope. We need to keep the eye on the meta level here: the US lost. Simple as that. Can they still hit and bit, sure. Iran can and must too. That being said, Iran cannot give an inch anywhere. Either the MOU is implemented, or it's dead and Iran needs to close Hormuz again. Simple as that. We didn't strategically defeat them to be back to square one during 'negotiations'. Just the way it is. Either the US does what it claimed it would do, or back to war for even better terms for Iran later. No pussyfooting, this is existential. And to hell with the fiefdom dictatorships and their 'opinion'. Time to close Mandab the next round too.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Initial unconfirmed reports of power outages in Kuwait and Bahrain

 

[kobra]

Hitting PGCC in response is useless, theyre already gone, UAE is gone for at least 20 years in terms of tourism and moral repair costs, Kuwait has also been hit too many times

Iran should extend its range and aim Mediterranean crusader states like Italy or Greece or simply hit Ukraine as a response

Seems like that hitting US naval ships let alone ACC is out of capabilities of Iranian naval/missile forces. Iran should continue to wreck havoc on US interests in PGCC

 

[BHAN85]

With the NATO summit in Turkey, I think Iran has deliberately chosen this path to increase the oil price and also remind the US and its GCC flunkies that it is still alive and kicking and can make life miserable for them all.

Iran is reminding NATO of the impotence of the US.

Really was it started by Iran this?

USA only has to order civilian ships to pass ignoring Iran to provoke this Iran reaction.

I think it's USA who started this to have excuse tomorrow to order nato vassals more Iran war involvement.

Iran should add a random delay for retaliations, they are following USA plans with this deterministic action/reaction.

 

[Abdul q]

Initial unconfirmed reports of power outages in Kuwait and Bahrain

Reason mentioned? Source?

 

[Immortals]

How did Oman backstab Iran? If Iran only wanted ships to use the Iranian channel, it should have negotiated for this in the MoU, but it didn’t.

First of all you cannot force a country to use your territorial waters. So no Iran couldn’t put that explicitly in the MoU, legally speaking.

So it was agreed between Iran and Oman that they would set up a mechanism to equally charge tolls. Then share that revenue. Hence Iran would get revenue regardless of which lane was used.

But then later U.S. told Oman if you charge tolls we will obliterate you. And Oman backed off the idea and became complicit with the West and Arabs.

 

[lightning f57]

Seems like that hitting US naval ships let alone ACC is out of capabilities of Iranian naval/missile forces. Iran should continue to wreck havoc on US interests in PGCC

Its an asymmetric war, some are asking why Iran is doing this, they are missing the bigger picture. Whether we think its right morally is a different question.

 

[Nawnaw1]

Seems like that hitting US naval ships let alone ACC is out of capabilities of Iranian naval/missile forces. Iran should continue to wreck havoc on US interests in PGCC

US Ships are hundreds of miles out. They don't phyically escort anything. No US navy ship is anywhere in the entire Persian Gulf, there is zero evidence of that. They emptied the entire naval base before the war. All they do is drone and helicopter escorts. That's it. To shoot down drones. That's not sustainable.

 

[kobra]

Initial unconfirmed reports of power outages in Kuwait and Bahrain

No missile/drone attack so far by IR. most likely preemptive measures by US pets

 

[Nawnaw1]

No missile/drone attack so far by IR. most likely preemptive measures by US pets

Preemptive of what?

 

[kobra]

US Ships are hundreds of miles out. They don't phyically escort anything. No US navy ship is anywhere in the entire Persian Gulf, there is zero evidence of that. They emptied the entire naval base before the war. All they do is drone and helicopter escorts. That's it. To shoot down drones. That's not sustainable.

USAF is involved in thes Escorts and attacks.. Heavy air tankers activity is going over Hormuz.. Tankers refuel JEts, not drones or helis.. these jets are flying from Pgcc bases and maybe from ACCs..

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

USAF is involved in thes Escorts and attacks.. Heavy air tankers activity is going over Hormuz.. Tankers refuel JEts, not drones or helis.. these jets are flying from Pgcc bases and maybe from ACCs..

No longer the case.

 

[Nawnaw1]

USAF is involved in thes Escorts and attacks.. Heavy air tankers activity is going over Hormuz.. Tankers refuel JEts, not drones or helis.. these jets are flying from Pgcc bases and maybe from ACCs..

Yes indeed, but my point was, no naval ships are escorting anything. You think it's sustainable or even a strategy to keep dozens of fighter jets flying over the Oman area every day? It's ridiculous and posturing. Trying to get Iran to give a finger so they can take the whole hand.

Remember days ago a Sea Hawk 'crashed'? Doing escorts. Same with the Apaches a few weeks ago.