Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[030292]

very diplomatic and that got him very far didnt it. The more I hear these guys i think Iran would be better desposed leaving these guys to spiritual guidance and leave temporal guidance to politicians

I mean was he wrong?

 

[ShapurII]

Middle east is irrelevant to Kim, everything he needs he gets it from china and russia.

North Korea did export a lot of its missile technology to Iran in the past. Iran's Khorramshahr missile is clearly based on the North Korean Hwasang-10, for example. They also exported the technology of Hwasong-12 to Iran.

 

[030292]

The Pakistani people are different from the Pakistani system. I'm sure millions of Pakistanis are tired of the US unconditional support for Israel but that doesn't necessarily translate into Pakistani decision makers acting against the US.

Bro we are too poor to act against anyone let alone west

 

[Aryan_B]

The Pakistani people are different from the Pakistani system. I'm sure millions of Pakistanis are tired of the US unconditional support for Israel but that doesn't necessarily translate into Pakistani decision makers acting against the US.

our leaders and decesion makers are for sale

 

[ShapurII]

Bro we are too poor to act against anyone let alone west

You are richer than Iran at the moment.
I mean not per capita obviously, but Pakistan's GDP is now larger than Iran's.

 

[ShapurII]

our leaders and decesion makers are for sale

And who do you think can pay them better? Iran? Or Saudi Arabia and the US?

 

[RescueRanger]

This makes the 12th USAF Refueler to arrive in EUCOM via SWANWICK in the last 12 hours > headed East to CENTCOM AOR.
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Following on from my previous post and given the delicate situation in the region right now - for the first time since hostilities were announced a B1 bomber can be seen having taken off from RAF Base Fairford and is currently in a holding pattern over the Devon Coast.

AE6BFE B-1B 86-0125 "Swift Justice." from the USAF 7th Bomb Wing.



A lone bomber up in the skies is not an indication of an impending attack - the fact it is in a holding pattern indicates it is awaiting tasking.

 

[Flotilla]

Well, by now, even the sympathizers of Iran are learning about the absolute role a religious cleric like the Ayatollah plays, and then there is the IRGC, and then the Reformists. When the ARAMCO attack in Saudi Arabia happened, the official Iranian position was to disown that but the IRGC claimed that. Even the very sympathetic Pakistani analysts were scratching their heads.
There is already Israel doing all it can to engineer a conflict between the regional countries. If there is any truth in Mossad co-opting Ahmadinejad, as NY Times is posting today, then that is very problematic. Iranians shouldn't help Israel with their goals. Speak in one voice. One voice. Have a solid chain of command which even poor countries like India and Pakistan have.

You may be aware that attacks to civilians ships have happened not just last week. During all MOU, few days later of Versailles, the first attack came, and it was because they´re using a south corridor that is trying to void the principle of control of article 5.

Yes, maybe the hardliners are in charge right now, but it should not be a secret that there are a sense of unity in these actions. The strategy it is the same, make unusable that "south corridor" that are just few hundreds meters from riffs and cliffs.

Thinking that there are not a common strategy in iranian actions recalls me the days of the revolts promoted by Israel and US. They thought people would overthrow the Regime and was clearly expossed that they were a minority.

It is another mistake.

 

[Aryan_B]

I mean was he wrong?

Of course not but it woudl have been better to butter them up until you in a position to destroy them why make enemy when you cant do anything about their actions

 

[Hazard]

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What was Saudi thinking? Wasted 10 expensive Storm Shadow bombs on an empty runway to stop a plane which just landed in an adjacent airport instead. And now invited missile strikes on its own airport.

Very stupid.

Saudis aren't exactly known for their critical thinking lol.
By their standards, this was a smart move.

Here's hoping my country is watching the events closely. Hint: stay out of this mess Pakistan.

 

[Aryan_B]

And who do you think can pay them better? Iran? Or Saudi Arabia and the US?

Saudis paid Pakistan in oil. Iran could have attempted instead Iran built relationship with India (muslim haters) and Russia (who according to Putin majority are russian speakers and follows Russia can not contemplate any agrresion against them)

 

[Aryan_B]

Saudis aren't exactly known for their critical thinking lol.
By their standards, this was a smart move.

Here's hoping my country is watching the events closely. Hint: stay out of this mess Pakistan.

Bit late dont ya think with our troops sitting in Saudi but i hope they are restrained and only to be used agaist Jews

 

[VCheng]

the principle of control of article 5.

Could you please explain what is this "principle of control" in Article 5 of the MoU that you claim? Thanks.

Not that it matters now, but perhaps understanding language can help us all to understand better what the terms of the final settlement, whenever it finally happens, are in reality.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

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Pakistan should avoid getting into this mess (Jewish scheme) AT ALL COSTS.

Though contact should be done with Iranians/Houthis to keep it low when it comes to Saudis...

Also keep an eye on Israeli false flags - in Middle East and in Washington.

 

[Aryan_B]

Could you please explain what is this "principle of control" in Article 5 of the MoU that you claim? Thanks.

Not that it matters now, but perhaps understanding language can help us all to understand better what the terms of the final settlement, whenever it finally happens, are in reality.

To tell ya truth many things in that MOU flew in the face of the protagonists position or were vague to the nth degree