Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[lightning f57]

If that scenario came true, then yes, it might come to that. Certainly not a guarantee though

Both of your conversation I find interesting.

Im not so sure that Iran doesn't have the capability to hit US ships - when the war first started it turned out after the first ceasefire that there was a Arleigh Burke class destroyer inside the PG well within Iranian missiles docked close to Bahrain/Kuwait - it was not targeted despite the fact the US sunk an unarmed Iranian ship killing 80 plus sailors it would have given plenty justification.

Even in the current situation there has been satellite images of US AC sailing very close to the Iranian coast unescorted. To me atleast it seems Irans still holding back on a mass casualty event on the US side, I think they are calibrating their responses to keep US public opinion against trump.

If this really is the case, I actually think one must give the Iranians more credit - as there is some really clever and strategic thinking going on, not something you can say about the trump admin.

 

[Watandar]

There will be no deal (of any significance, or lasting deal), or end to military operations against Iran; until the Iranian regime falls.

— // NEW: According to the Wall Street Journal, Iran has made a few additional demands for opening the Strait of Hormuz under Iranian management in partnership with Oman

– An immediate end to the U.S. naval blockade.

– The lifting of U.S. sanctions on Iranian oil, petrochemical products, and gas.

– An explicit acknowledgement of Iran’s right to collect maritime fees.

Besides all this, Iran will have full control over inbound traffic into the Strait of Hormuz, and supervision over outbound traffic through Omani waters.

@Middle_East_Spectator

 

[tsunset]

Iran should target US immigrants in PGCC

If it wants easy targets to kill, then there it is

 

[Immortals]

 

[KAL-EL]

— // NEW: According to the Wall Street Journal, Iran has made a few additional demands for opening the Strait of Hormuz under Iranian management in partnership with Oman

– An immediate end to the U.S. naval blockade.

– The lifting of U.S. sanctions on Iranian oil, petrochemical products, and gas.

– An explicit acknowledgement of Iran’s right to collect maritime fees.

Besides all this, Iran will have full control over inbound traffic into the Strait of Hormuz, and supervision over outbound traffic through Omani waters.

@Middle_East_Spectator

Nice wish list but I highly doubt all of those demands will be met. At least not in the near future anyway.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

This is just temporary. Trump will rip up the deal after mid terms and restart the war.

A whole lot is riding on mid terms. There is a lot of money pouring into primaries... the bottleneck to get only the approved candidates through in both parties... that is how Massie was removed from the republican ticket with an unknown AIPAC candidate... the most expensive primary in the history...
Ultimately, Iran cannot be defeated by an air campaign... and Iran would be wise to not let the evacuated or damaged bases get reinstated... which would be critical component of any future land invasion... as silly as it sounds now.

 

[Watandar]

Nice wish list but I highly doubt all of those demands will be met. At least not in the near future anyway.

Well most it was part of the first MoU but yeah, we know now the US had no intention of following it and hence the recent fracas. Let's see how MoU 2.0 fares.

 

[Desert]

Again, this is the first I've heard of this. I'd like to see a credible source because this has not been reported anywhere that I know of
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A usn carrier colliding with a ship would be big news here and I can't find a shred of evidence to back up your claim..

Not to mention the fact that Egypt is nowhere near a match for the USN

So I've come to the conclusion that it's just hopium on your part and it never happened

here is from CNN

بعد اصطدامها.. صور تظهر الأضرار بحاملة الطائرات الأمريكية

أظهرت صور جديدة حجم الأضرار التي لحقت بحاملة الطائرات التابعة للبحرية الأمريكية "يو. إس. إس. هاري إس ترومان"، بعد اصطدامها بسفينة تجارية الأسبوع الماضي، قرب مدخل قناة السويس قبالة مدينة بورسعيد شمال مصر.

arabic.cnn.com

ROFL

 

[Falgrine]

The US has more weapons in long term storage than all the countries of the Middle East have in total, combined. Occupied 2 different countries for decades but has now run out of weapons in a few months. Sure...



Not discounting the very real and very moronic sectarian hatred on both sides by any means but that man's comments surely have nothing to do with what Iran's been doing for the past four decades all over the region against them. Of course, it's because they're Shia. Pitiful pretense of martyrdom. "Confront the common enemy"....and Indian levels of self-awareness.



He even rolled the other APC over just with his rifle.

Sorry but what Iran has done against the Jordanians for the past few decades, to against Morrocans, or against plethora of Arab states?

I understand that Wahabi insipred hatred against Shias is a recent phenomenon but the under currents have always been there.

Shias welcomed Mongols to Baghdad
Shais sided with Crusaders
Shias backstabbed Turkish Ottoman
Shia allied with Colonialists
and on and on

Even if Iran did what it is accused of, there was enough manufactured history to justify events like the sack of Karbala and Najaf by Ikhwanis/Wahabbis in the last 19th century.

The only issue for these types is that Shias are now a force to be reckoned with.

They cannot do much now except this verbal diarrhea to vent their hate.

 

[Desert]

Iraq was forced to pay compensation to Kuwait for the war. And the US imposed more sanctions on Iraq and further weakened it until they finished the job in 2003. Iraq went from one of the strongest countries in the region in 1991 to a failed state in 2003.

Trust me, it's not the 90s anymore and that's what worries me. It's the age of data and AI and the US has complete, absolute dominance in that. And Iran is falling behind every year, particularly in science and technology. Even in science production, we'll soon fall behind Pakistan, Egypt and the Emirates. We've already fallen behind Turkey and Saudi Arabia in recent rankings.

Iraq wasn't one of the strongest , it just had a lot of gears but no brains and saddam was a fool just like Gamal Abdel Nasser. Sadaam wasn't a smart leader just a dicatator who happened to rule a nice country like Iraq and he demolished it.

Again, Iran is not Iraq, Iran is way smarter and stronger

 

[KAL-EL]

here is from CNN

بعد اصطدامها.. صور تظهر الأضرار بحاملة الطائرات الأمريكية

أظهرت صور جديدة حجم الأضرار التي لحقت بحاملة الطائرات التابعة للبحرية الأمريكية "يو. إس. إس. هاري إس ترومان"، بعد اصطدامها بسفينة تجارية الأسبوع الماضي، قرب مدخل قناة السويس قبالة مدينة بورسعيد شمال مصر.

arabic.cnn.com

ROFL

Can't read Arabic

And again I say that if something like that happened, it would have seen All over US media. Not a peep.

Seems like it's conspiracy driven

 

[Shags101]

Can't read Arabic

And again I say that if something like that happened we would have seen it on us media. Not a peep.

I just put google translate on everything personally if I want to read my Arabic reading and writing is kindergarten at best speaking it and understanding it I can do

 

[KAL-EL]

I just put google translate on everything personally if I want to read my Arabic reading and writing is kindergarten at best speaking it and understanding it I can do

Do you believe that actually happened tho? I find it half a very doubtful

 

[ShapurII]

Iraq wasn't one of the strongest , it just had a lot of gears but no brains and saddam was a fool just like Gamal Abdel Nasser. Sadaam wasn't a smart leader just a dicatator who happened to rule a nice country like Iraq and he demolished it.

Again, Iran is not Iraq, Iran is way smarter and stronger

We fought with Iraq for 8 years. Iraq had a strong army in 90s. Their ground forces were top-notch.

If Iran were smart, we wouldn't have wasted trillions of dollars on a useless nuclear program and the "Axis of Resistance".

 

[Desert]

Can't read Arabic

And again I say that if something like that happened, it would have seen All over US media. Not a peep.

Seems like it's conspiracy driven

here is from business insider ( english version for you)

A US Navy aircraft carrier fresh off the Red Sea fight collided with a commercial ship near Egypt

A Navy spokesperson said the collision did not endanger the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman. The situation is being investigated.

www.businessinsider.com

Conspiracy ya lol .. next time you park your ships next to our shores again , it won't be just a small EW collide accident : ))