Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Master Chief]

I agree, let's think logically about it.

When Pakistan signed the initial pact, Iran and Saudi Arabia were not directly involved in war against each other, right? So, there was no reason for the initial pact to impact Iran in any reasonable way. But now that Iran and Saudi Arabia are involved in hostilities, what do you think a second pact implies?


Because they see this as an opportunity to destroy Iran while Iran is at its weakest fighting the US and Israel. And why do we assume that's true? Well, MBS has literally threatened Iran with destruction when he came to power in 2018, and even before that, a decade before him, the Saudis constantly pressured Obama to "cut the head of the snake". MBS literally created propaganda videos about attacking Iran and publicly said that they would bring war to Tehran.

The war is over, certainly in terms of its hot phase. If any pact was intended to hurt Iran, it would have been inked AND acted on months ago.

It actually loathes me to say it's over because I really wanted Iran to obliterate US-Israeli hegemony. I don't wish to see zios and neo-pahlavists bring their vile ideologies to your country (which is also our western flank).

Tehran performed admirably in certain phases but you have never once enjoyed the air superiority required to enforce your will, defend yourselves, move assets around even your own country to where they are needed, or even to capture a stricken enemy airman lying semi-conscious on some rocky outcrop. You have little to no ability to harm enemy naval vessels and have limited ability to impact defenceless merchant vessels. US is also not falling into the trap of sending in battalions of infantry to be ground into pulp by your drones - credit where it's due, they're smart enough to avoid a disaster. Meanwhile, your leadership is picked off almost on a whim by the dreaded decapitation attacks.

Beyond these local difficulties , more has occurred over the last 3 years that has clipped the wings of Tehran's rise - Hezbollah cannot be helped by Tehran because of Jolani playing a high block and Hamas are literally no more.

Did MBS actually achieve any of that all by himself from his little palace in the desert?

I may well be wrong but I would like to think Iran can still walk away with some marginal win by extracting a SoH toll and that Iran then takes its time and rebuilds, quietly, and avoids some of the mistakes made in terms of "realpolitik" (a term many here seem to like!) such as the overreach described above.

I find MBS's rhetoric vile and reprehensible but rhetoric alone really doesn't bring any actual harm to Iran.

 

[Flotilla]

Saudi Arabia can’t handle Houthis alone there has been a lot of hype that the Saudi military is the primer military of the Middle East a rag tag group like the Houthis should be no problem they need a many countries to protect their land,sea and air from attack I guess Saudi Arabia is no better capabilities than Kuwait Bahrain Qatar UAE or Jordan if they need multiple countries to protect their territory from big bad Houthis…..I just had to seriously night

Good grief, what a historic farce! Reading news like this, one understands the Saudi interest in striking deals with just about anyone who comes knocking.

 

[Master Chief]

“belligerent parties”?

That implies Iran is belligerent?

If anyone thinks Iran is belligerent over SoH - they have clearly been brainwashed by Zionist media.

The Arabs facilitated the destruction of Iran - SoH is the means to raise the money for rebuilding.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word. I never suggested Iran started this conflict, not even once. I have not even suggested Iran was the party that broke the terms of the MoU.

 

[BananaRepublic]

No they didn’t.

US broke it by trying to create a separate corridor.

Interim deal was to only use Iran’s approved route.

And US did not comply with any of its obligations e.g. releasing frozen funds.

 

[Flotilla]

Tehran performed admirably in certain phases but you have never once enjoyed the air superiority required to enforce your will, defend yourselves, move assets around even your own country to where they are needed, or even to capture a stricken enemy airman lying semi-conscious on some rocky outcrop. You have little to no ability to harm enemy naval vessels and have limited ability to impact defenceless merchant vessels. US is also not falling into the trap of sending in battalions of infantry to be ground into pulp by your drones - credit where it's due, they're smart enough to avoid a disaster. Meanwhile, your leadership is picked off almost on a whim by the dreaded decapitation attacks.

While It is completely true that Irán doesn't have even a minimum Air force to keep even any local control, let's be honest. Irán fought admirably well with just one hand and the other tied.

By the way. Irán didn't show all antiship arsenal, few antiship ballistic missiles have been used, and just once did a saturation attack over a Carrier with a criptic "laundry fire" achievements.

But I agree in the rest of your post.
We need Irán. It is the only obstacle to Zionism. Neither Turkey, Pakistán or EU. Nobody has shut Up the mouth to them.

Unfortunately.

 

[Kyussis]

Funny how you guys are the ones dreaming now. Just 5 months ago, I remember how you guys said after Khamenei, the IRGC would be in control of Iran. I imagine it must be such a disappointment that reformists, in their most radical pro-West form, are in power now and Iran is negotiating with the US every day of the week.


No need to "slip it in". I will say it loudly and proudly: Iran must dump Arabs, either it will or it will be forced to do so as we are seeing right now, and then mend its ties with the United States before it's too late. Since the US will not accept to restore ties with Iran without some level of normalization with Israel, Iran must normalize its relations with Israel even if it's covertly, like every other country in the region. Nothing to slip in, I will reiterate it every time with great pride.

You are exactly who i thought you are! Thanks for making it crystal clear!!!
rza, I see you too.

 

[BHAN85]

If all bubbles are getting popped, they don't instigate the conflict worldwide to serve as a distraction, then they may face the internal civil war.

There are no civil wars in Latin American countries, and their crappy economies are like the USA economy after be destroyed by one million financial bubbles.

But one big Eurasian conflict gave USA hegemony, and another could keep the hegemony in his decline.

Nuclear war with strategic nuclear weapons is a matter of one hour, in one hour changes the world powers forever, and Iran war could be the excuse to move and launch the nuclear weapons against other actors.

USA is a de iure democracy, it needs excuses, lies and fake narratives to move and use their arsenal, they already have potential excuses to move and use nukes against Russia/China, thanks to Iran war. They already have started to sing the song of we're running out of conventional weapons.

 

[RzA]

Won't be long until Qatar and Egypt join the pact. They won't lift a finger against Israel, that's for sure. We'll see how things shape up overtime but there are indications that this security pact will be aimed at the resistance inevitably. Things could get real ugly soon.

Called it

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[BHAN85]

USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier is reaching max time deployment next to Iran, and sailors start to complain.

Sailors on the USS Abraham Lincoln reportedly dealing with poor conditions, weak morale, families say

The USS Abraham Lincoln is in the Middle East supporting the war with Iran. Military families report food shortages, moldy showers and more.

taskandpurpose.com

 

[BHAN85]

'Critical' no more? Iran shares surprise video of Mojtaba Khamenei

Days after Israeli media reported that Iran’s Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei was in critical condition and had been hospitalised, Iran’s semi-official Mehr News agency released an undated video showing him appearing to be in good health.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

There is some possibility the video was recorded before Feb 28?

When Cubans wanted to prove FIdel Castro was alive, they published pics and videos of Fidel with the newspaper of the day.

 

[Cygnus]

But Israelis are buying lands on the Greek Cyprus, no?

Honestly, maybe it's my ignorance, but I do not see any probable scenario where Turkey and Israel would clash over in the next 10-15 years. If anything, I think Turkey is playing the role of the US hidden power projection in the region perfectly. A role that Saudi Arabia with its influence in the Muslim world failed to play for decades and the US finally decided to assign it to Turkey.

And Türkei is populating northern Cyprus with Pakistanis

 

[RzA]

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[PAKISTANFOREVER]

But Israelis are buying lands on the Greek Cyprus, no?

Honestly, maybe it's my ignorance, but I do not see any probable scenario where Turkey and Israel would clash over in the next 10-15 years. If anything, I think Turkey is playing the role of the US hidden power projection in the region perfectly. A role that Saudi Arabia with its influence in the Muslim world failed to play for decades and the US finally decided to assign it to Turkey.

Don't think 10 to 20 years in the future. Think 50 to 100 years into the future. israel wants to destroy Turkiye and Iran as they act as obstacles to the plan of a greater israel. They CANNOT allow ANY middle eastern or Muslim nation to exist which can miltarily challenge israel. The belief of a greater israel is something that the israelis will DIE for. The israelis have an abnormal, insane and raging passion to make sure their beliefs are adhered to and their prophecies come true. They are VERY strong in this and will do WHATEVER it takes to make sure they come true no MATTER what the rest of the world thinks. Muslims are weak and don't have this zeal to make sure the prophecies in the Quran come true. Muslims will not work for it. Muslims just want to please non-Muslims.