Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ChineseTiger1986]

Well, it's one thing to not support Trump on Iran Policy, it's another thing to remove him and get JD Vance in, that would completely end the brand MAGA and GOP for the next decade if they turn on Trump. Dem remove him, that's okay, but if it was the GOP effort, that will piss off most voting base, the chance of GOP to get both house next year in Mid-Term is as low as it can be, why make it lower?

No difference for Iran whether it is GOP or Democrat.

The GOP always to bomb them back to stone age.

While the Democrats always want to pretend to be their friend, while keep promoting those pro-west stooges to take over the country.

 

[ToqeLowkey]

Iran shouldn’t call it quit because all bets are lost the Zionist would now start bombing Iran on regular bases every now and then . Best thing for Iran is to concentrate more missiles on tal aviv and dump it to the ground. Keep attacking tal aviv until they call for ceasefire

 

[brainsucker]

It is about Iran vs Israel on the surface, but the grand scheme is China vs the US.

Everyone knows that.

So sometimes the mods need to be a little a bit loose about being involved more of China/US.

Otherwise, we can never explore/understand the true nature of these confrontations, while only focus on the superficial parts.

I agree. If we can play wei qi / go chess we can understand this situation better. US want to surround and kill china.

 

[RescueRanger]

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I would love to believe this but I highly doubt it.

 

[muz]

If Iranians go for Strait of Hormuz
they will get Operation Praying Mantis on Steroids

 

[Be dazzled]

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[gambit]

I never made any estimates.

However, there is sufficient on-line tools available that with certain assumptions regarding angle of impact, coefficient of drag on the GBU, terminal velocity, and the density of solid granite (SpGr is 2.7-2.9 IIRC), you can make assumptions on depth of penetration.

Then, and this is where the weaponeers and their wonder-software comes in. Based on the shape of the charge, velocity and direction of the explosion, the models would have told them A: just how deep each bomb would penetrate prior to explosion, added depth of the explosion, and how close subsequent hits would have to be to keep up that momentum.

Even if there was insufficient penetration depth, how easy and how long would it be to access the site again? Would anyone dare to try to even APPROACH the area knowing who knows what is watching above?

 

[HAIDER]

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[brainsucker]

Iran shouldn’t call it quit because all bets are lost the Zionist would now start bombing Iran on regular bases every now and then . Best thing for Iran is to concentrate more missiles on tal aviv and dump it to the ground. Keep attacking tal aviv until they call for ceasefire

it pointless. US will bomb Iran more. If iran really have nuke, they should show it to the world by bombing an empty desert inside Iran and threat to use it on tel avis if the war continue in a kind of MAD doctrine war.

With thay there is a bigger change that US will go to economy sanction than kill iran regime

 

[Frogen]

Because the Iranian leaders believe that China needs to treat them as an equal partner/comrade, not just a proxy pawn.

If they do believe if they have to launch a full scale against the west, China also needs to roll up its sleeves and step onto the ring and ready to fight.

If China wants to act like a big boss who sits behind and having them to fight and to bleed, they won't take that.

Persians are just people with pride, and want to act like a proxy pawn.

Allies take on different strategic roles depending on their strength and national conditions — that doesn’t mean China treats Iran as a proxy.

Unlike the U.S., China doesn’t force its allies to sacrifice their own national interests just to serve China’s. For instance, even with ongoing tensions with India, China has never asked Pakistan to provide unconditional military support or to block reconciliation efforts between Pakistan and India.

Pakistan has remained almost entirely independent in its dealings with both the U.S. and India — and the same goes for Russia.

That said, I do think there are some misunderstandings between Iran and China. Maybe it’s because both are ancient civilizations with thousands of years of history — sometimes we might both just be a bit too proud.

 

[gambit]

Why is the Whole Western World so united?

What would it take to topple them and White Supremacy? A natural disaster such as Yellowstone Supervolcano Eruption. If so, can't wait for the supervolcano eruption to happen so many White people's economic and military power be nerfed significantly even though the eruption will affect whole world's food production equally too....

So essentially, it would take an act of God to topple 'White Supremacy'?

Maybe God himself is white?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

According to the Turkish media, a message was sent before the bombing: it's strictly confined to bombing nuclear facilities sites, it's not about the regime change. IMO Iran might not take too far with the USA....

 

[StrategicBear]

Will be difficult for Iran
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You will see the Iranians have positioned several naval vessels - but there are NATO and US Navy vessels in the region too. I have highlighted a Joint - Australian /NATO vessel in the TOP left corner to explain this.

But those naval vessels can easily be sunk by Supersonic Anti-Ship Missiles and Hypersonic SRBMs. I just want to see some Western soldiers DIE for once at the hands of a Muslim Army like the good old times of Ottoman and Saladin armies..... in retaliation for all the Evil Stuff Western miltaries have done. Western countries need to be defanged and demilitarized now for World Peace!

 

[Viet]

endgame
I woke up in the morning with the news the US bombing Iran last night.
how did we get there?

 

[Gripen9]

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