Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ety]

China doesn't sell anything useful to Iran, except some electronic spare parts ... They have some pre-condition which if we want to accept, we just go and accept USA term in first place (they want us to act as their minions)

I thought Iran's choice of its foremost strategic partner is Russia, you chose to buy your weapons from Russia, not China. Your next strategic partner is India. China is a partner to Iran in some areas particularly in economy. If you don't want to have cooperation with China, that's fine. If you think you can find better partners in US and EU, be my guest.

 

[吃瓜群众]

Can you prove that J10C is better than Su3SM !? And Russia offered TOT as well .

You just don't face reality, it's too hypocritical, I don't know if the Su-35 is good, I just know that you got the goods? I really don't understand that in today's situation where the network is so developed, there are still people who don't understand what is needed for air combat now, system combat is the most important, J-10 may not be a heavy fighter, but the PL15E that J-10 is on can easily kill the target at a distance of 200 kilometers, you just launch the rest to the AWACS aircraft and satellites, a cost-effective and powerful combat system you don't choose, you do ask me if there is any evidence to prove the level of J-10 and Su-35, Su-35 is even an 8th generation aircraft, I ask you, can you receive the goods when you need them? If a person is sick and needs to go to the emergency and then prescribe the right medicine, you have to ask if this medicine is the best, let me ask you a question, in addition to the Su-35 is a heavy fighter, his on-board electronic equipment, radar, air-to-air missiles, which can compare to the J-10,?

 

[corven]

China doesn't sell anything useful to Iran, except some electronic spare parts ... They have some pre-condition which if we want to accept, we just go and accept USA term in first place (they want us to act as their minions)

To put it bluntly. China has no interest in Iran.
China's diplomatic focus in the Middle East is the Gulf Cooperation Council. Saudi Arabia alone will have a total foreign trade of $106.2 billion with China in 2024, of which China will export $49.5 billion to Saudi Arabia. They are our important energy source and market.
China will not sell any weapons to Iran, and we will not offend the Gulf Cooperation Council, the second largest energy supplier and a huge market.
We will not put forward any conditions to Iran. You are the political sphere of our ally Russia. You have nothing to do with us.
Our only connection with you is re-export trade. Our direct trade with you is not worth much. In 2024, our bilateral direct trade with you was only $13.3 billion.
We will support you morally only out of humanitarian needs. We do not divide camps by anti-Americanism, and it is even more impossible to give you a large amount of aid unconditionally just because you are anti-American. That is what fools do.
That's all.

 

[corven]

Can you prove that J10C is better than Su3SM !? And Russia offered TOT as well .

Don't worry about J10CE. Frankly speaking, AVIC really wants to sell you weapons. However, the sale of arms is still subject to restrictions on commercial and diplomatic interests. You don't have to worry about something you can't get.
By the way, the Chinese military also has Su35, which is a type that is about to be eliminated in the Chinese military.

 

[ety]

You just don't face reality, it's too hypocritical, I don't know if the Su-35 is good, I just know that you got the goods? I really don't understand that in today's situation where the network is so developed, there are still people who don't understand what is needed for air combat now, system combat is the most important, J-10 may not be a heavy fighter, but the PL15E that J-10 is on can easily kill the target at a distance of 200 kilometers, you just launch the rest to the AWACS aircraft and satellites, a cost-effective and powerful combat system you don't choose, you do ask me if there is any evidence to prove the level of J-10 and Su-35, Su-35 is even an 8th generation aircraft, I ask you, can you receive the goods when you need them? If a person is sick and needs to go to the emergency and then prescribe the right medicine, you have to ask if this medicine is the best, let me ask you a question, in addition to the Su-35 is a heavy fighter, his on-board electronic equipment, radar, air-to-air missiles, which can compare to the J-10,?

I think they don't have much desire for cooperation with China, they think Chinese weapons and products are inferior to others.

 

[ShapurII]

Can you prove that J10C is better than Su3SM !? And Russia offered TOT as well .

How do you know the Russians have offered ToT?

J-10C has AESA radar, Sukhoi-35 and Sukhoi-30SM both use PESA.
Russia cannot even produce Sukhoi-35 in enough numbers per year, the Chinese can produce J-10C at an incredible rate if they want to. The Chinese have an industrial capacity that the Russians do not possess. Just as simple as that.

 

[OldTwilight]

Su35 can start flight mission from east of Iran and wit combat range f 1500 KM , go to west of Iran and do mission flight and then comeback without needing air to air refueling . It can cover entirety of Iran ...
So Su35 even with weaker avionics are better choice for Iran because lets be honest , we would know our airbase will be first targets in any war with Israel or PGCC...

If the war didn't happen and we would get first complete batch till the end of 2025, all these speculations would be baseless ...

And part of Su35 deal was paid by Iran sending drones and ammunition to Russia ...

Chinese act so high for us and it became frustrating.

 

[sahureka2]

Iranian TV Shows Inspection of Downed Israeli Orbiter-5 Drone During 'Twelve Day' War

 

[Persian Gulf]

To put it bluntly. China has no interest in Iran.

China will not sell any weapons to Iran, and we will not offend the Gulf Cooperation Council, the second largest energy supplier and a huge market.

We will support you morally only out of humanitarian needs.

thank you. it's important for Iranians to understand this.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Tasnim news agency, citing a statement from the IRGC, says that “two members of the Guards were killed Sunday in Khorramabad while clearing the area of explosives left by the Zionist regime’s aggression.”

 

[Persian Gulf]

was it you? @Dariush-e Bozorg

 

[Aad80]

Since 1982 Iran has invested hundreds upon hundreds of billions of USD in Hezbollah. Perhaps more than 1 trillion USD. It was all for nothing. Hezbollah was annihilated in an instant. Imagine if all this money would have been invested in Iranians. In Iran. Health. Social Security. In sophisticated jets and air defense.

All for nothing.

 

[ShapurII]

The Islamic Republic should bank on the strong unity of Iranians at this moment to make fundamental changes in its strategies.
If it doesn't do that, the unity will fall apart fast. People need to see that things are changing for this unity to stay as strong as it is now.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Since 1982 Iran has invested hundreds upon hundreds of billions of USD in Hezbollah. Perhaps more than 1 trillion USD. It was all for nothing. Hezbollah was annihilated in an instant. Imagine if all this money would have been invested in Iranians. In Iran. Health. Social Security. In sophisticated jets and air defense.

All for nothing.

What's your source?

 

[Hezb313]

Since 1982 Iran has invested hundreds upon hundreds of billions of USD in Hezbollah. Perhaps more than 1 trillion USD. It was all for nothing. Hezbollah was annihilated in an instant. Imagine if all this money would have been invested in Iranians. In Iran. Health. Social Security. In sophisticated jets and air defense.

All for nothing.

Never a trillion pls stay on planet earth. Iran has not spend a trillion on its own defense sector in the last 20 years. And sepah and artesh have together 1 Millionen personal and on top industrial complexes and scientific institutions. A big part of hezbollahs funds also come from the Deaspora Lebanese from all over the world