Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

shapurzolaktaf said:
I hoped and "advised" for this during the 12 day war. I hope we set up production facilities around Iran in multiple countries, especially for drones, missiles and launchers.
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You need to rebuild ground control stations. I discussed this with ShapurII, the absence of Karrar, no mass drone attacks. They probably targetted the major sites and cut off ability to direct them

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Trump administration fires general who said attacks on Iran’s nuclear sites had minimal effect​


Head of US Defense Intelligence Agency Jeffrey Kruse fired alongside two senior Navy officials in latest purge.

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Lieutenant-General Jeffrey Kruse's firing comes two months after details of a preliminary assessment of US air strikes against Iran found that Iran’s nuclear programme had been set back only a few months, contradicting assertions from Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu [File: Mark Schiefelbein/AP Photo]

Lieutenant-General Jeffrey Kruse's firing comes two months after details of a preliminary assessment of US air strikes against Iran found that Iran’s nuclear programme had been set back only a few months, contradicting assertions from Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu [File: Mark Schiefelbein/AP Photo]
Published On 23 Aug 202523 Aug 2025

United States Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has fired a general whose agency’s preliminary intelligence assessment angered President Donald Trump for reporting that the US attack on Iranian nuclear sites in June had inflicted limited damage, according to reports.

The Pentagon firings on Friday, which, according to US officials who spoke to the Reuters and Associated Press (AP) news agencies, also include two other senior military commanders, are the latest moves by the Trump administration to purge officials at the Department of Defense .

It was not immediately known on what grounds Lieutenant General Jeffrey Kruse, who led the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) since early 2024, was fired.

But President Trump had previously decried the agency’s initial findings on US strikes against Iran.

The initial DIA assessment – which was widely reported on by US media – contradicted claims by Trump that the strikes totally destroyed the nuclear sites, drawing the ire of both the president and officials within his administration.

Kruse “will no longer serve as DIA director”, a senior defence official said on condition of anonymity on Friday, without providing an explanation for the general’s departure.

Prior to becoming director of the DIA, Kruse served as the adviser for military affairs for the director of national intelligence, and also held positions including director of intelligence for the coalition against the ISIL (ISIS) group.

Hegseth also fired Vice Admiral Nancy Lacore, who is chief of the Navy Reserve, as well as Rear Admiral Milton Sands, a Navy SEAL officer who oversees Naval Special Warfare Command, according to officials who spoke to both AP and Reuters.

“The firing of yet another senior national security official underscores the Trump administration’s dangerous habit of treating intelligence as a loyalty test rather than a safeguard for our country,” said US Senator Mark Warner, who is the vice chair of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

Since beginning his second term in January, Trump has overseen a purge of top military officers, including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Charles “CQ” Brown, whom he fired without explanation in February.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025...iran-nuclear-sites-damage-angered-trump-fired

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NOTE: As I've said before, it's an information war. Narratives are created, and when challenged internally, those who challenged them are persecuted.
 
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ShapurII said:
Do you think we won the 12-day battle?
Is that why we're negotiating with the Europeans over zero enrichment?

Also, did the US lose even a single soldier after bombing our nuclear facilities? Even a minor injury?
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Ceasefire was called before Israel could meet its objectives.

Major damage both sides. True extent unknown.

Simple.
 
Liquidator said:
Ceasefire was called before Israel could meet its objectives.

Major damage both sides. True extent unknown.

Simple.
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They did meet their most important objective: Destroy Iran's nuclear program.

10-50 times more economic damage was done to Iran, at least.
30 times more civilian deaths on the Iranian side.

Iranian side did not leave the NPT. Iranian side is still at the negotiating table, talking about less than 1% enrichment.
 
"The Houthi missile disintegrated mid-air.

Arab reports suggest that Yemen used a cluster munition for the first time last night — a missile with a fragmentation warhead that disperses submunitions and fragments in flight.

This new type of weapon is much harder to intercept, since dozens of fragments fall simultaneously, requiring far more interception efforts. Similar technology was used by the Iranian regime during the war in June, causing widespread damage.

Of course, the UN has not condemned the use of these deadly cluster weapons against civilians."

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It looks like this missile - that is exploding mid-air and deploying cluster munitions - is giving sleepless nights to the criminal settlers. Of course, their usual scapegoat is Iran. It is possible this missile that the Israelis can't stop is what drove child killer and mass murderer Benjamin Satanyahu to ask for ceasefire during the 12-day conflict.

But now that the Yemenis are deploying and they are gonna keep the pace of firing this missile until he and his Zionist killers stop the genocide in Gaza, the Zionist child killers are blaming Iran for coming up with the design and the UN for not "condemning" it. Imagine the Zionist mass murderers complaining about Iran and the UN. Good grief!
 
Persian Gulf said:
he openly said Jews control the West via control of media and banking.
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Somebody should tell him about the universities, Wall Street,and the big hedge funds, they control Big Tech! They control the insurance assoc, the book publishing, agency and representation, political PACs such as AIPAC, ADL, Labour Friends of Israel, Conservative Friends of Israel in the UK.....same as in Canada, Australia, and even New Zealand...lol.
In America, they control the American Bar Association, which all the lawyers operate under...the American Medical Association, the American Dental Association...whoa! I'm getting tired of typing.... The Real Estate association.....are you all getting this? This is total control of everything that makes real money!!!!! That's why the American middle class is going extinct....they've made everything unaffordable. I didn't believe any of the Nazi and European propaganda about them in the old times...I figured they were all racists....but my God, it's all been real...this is the reason they've been kicked out of 109 countries in history. They destroy everything from within.
 
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Iran Defence Minister confirms Qasem Basir missile was not used in war because it was not deployed yet

they should only reveal missiles long after they are deployed and mass produced
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You know....I say reveal things when they're actually used on the enemy....don't even parade it, I don't want to know what you got, let the enemy always guess...and live in doubt.
 
ShapurII said:
Our response was weak. They destroyed our nuclear sites without a nosebleed, and I mean that literally.

As Clausewitz says: The fate of a nation is often decided on the battlefield, but it is confirmed at the negotiating table.
Now it is confirmed that Iran lost the 12-day battle.
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But do you agree that our response and the war cost them around 1,5 billion USD a day?
 
kastor ville said:
You know....I say reveal things when they're actually used on the enemy....don't even parade it, I don't want to know what you got, let the enemy always guess...and live in doubt.
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interestingly he also says we tested some new advanced missiles in the past year which the enemy observed and assessed but we didn't use these missiles in the war

I think he is referring to Fattah-2 but he also talked about a new missile with 2000kg payload
 
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