Iran Plans to Buy Chinese J-10C Instead of Russian Su-35

[Sarhang]

Don't talk gibberish nonsense from your rumors here, provide with hard facts, No one is going to give 70% discount of oil to China or anybody, that's just bankruptcy. Chinese products are pure garbage, why you people are buying them, are you fools ?
Just don't do business with China then. Every country is looking after its interests, China is no different, of course, Chinese business are non-altruistic, so what.

Nonsense is your CCP provided ''facts''. Who the hell in communist China is going to provide the real data? The only entity that is worse than China in terms of lies and corruption is our old friend ''IR''. Their figures are a joke. Unofficial figures and the truth must be much higher than the official data.

Oh spare me the ‘everyone looks out for themselves standard nonsense. That’s exactly the attitude parasites use to justify draining weaker countries.
Of course China looks after its own interests , sure, that’s why they happily milk Irans desperation and dump their lowest-grade shit there, then play scared little puppies when it comes to selling real weapons.

Predatory as hell.

Anyway back to topic. This news is fake, no such thing has occured in the past 20 years between Iran and China and will not occur because of US economic might.

 

[r3alist]

India is an ally of Iran? Since when? Iran has 0 allies (Shia miliatias do not count as a nation).

India is a very very key partner of Israel, it's strange Iran has all the rhetoric in the world for USA and Israel, yet India is ideologically closer to Israel in spirit and thoughts, and USA is showing signs of diversion from Israel

Iran never ever mentions India as an Israel partner...a bit weird, why

Why? Hilarious.

Iran is not your colony to follow your wishes. Why Iran should completely switch its network to Chinese one? To make it fully dependent on China? Dangerous during critical times.

Aren't you over exaggerating?

In order to realize the benefit of the Chinese systems, you need as much integration as possible

Why do you phrase that in terms of being a colony

Unless Iran has its own version of Beidu you have GPS

Which one you trust?

 

[Sarhang]

India is a very very key partner of Israel, it's strange Iran has all the rhetoric in the world for USA and Israel, yet India is ideologically closer to Israel in spirit and thoughts, and USA is showing signs of diversion from Israel

Iran never ever mentions India as an Israel partner...a bit weird, why


Aren't you over exaggerating?

In order to realize the benefit of the Chinese systems, you need as much integration as possible

Why do you phrase that in terms of being a colony

Unless Iran has its own version of Beidu you have GPS

Which one you trust?

About India, they are playing a dirty game, meaning both sides. They are sucking up to Israel and IR at the same time. It's hard to decide what to do with them short of war or economic warfare. In this case, again IR is the village idiot. You give your most strategic port in the hands of people who claim to love Israel. How retarded is that?

Seriously, nothing that IR does really makes sense. I am sure world leaders have been wondering why the rulers in Iran act like this way.

On the issue of China. This subject is clear for many Iranians.

 

[ety]

Nonsense is your CCP provided ''facts''. Who the hell in communist China is going to provide the real data? The only entity that is worse than China in terms of lies and corruption is our old friend ''IR''. Their figures are a joke. Unofficial figures and the truth must be much higher than the official data.

Oh spare me the ‘everyone looks out for themselves standard nonsense. That’s exactly the attitude parasites use to justify draining weaker countries.
Of course China looks after its own interests , sure, that’s why they happily milk Irans desperation and dump their lowest-grade shit there, then play scared little puppies when it comes to selling real weapons.

Predatory as hell.

Anyway back to topic. This news is fake, no such thing has occured in the past 20 years between Iran and China and will not occur because of US economic might.

That data on Irian oil exports discount to China comes from Western sources, not Chinese. And you think I should trust the nonsense BS discount number comes out your mouth instead, lol. And why should China readily sell advanced weapons to Iran since it is not even a strategic partner of China and you don't trust Chinese and Chinese products, lol. China is not selling weapons to you and giving you good business deals is because China id scared of US, nonsense.

 

[r3alist]

About India, they are playing a dirty game, meaning both sides. They are sucking up to Israel and IR at the same time. It's hard to decide what to do with them short of war or economic warfare. In this case, again IR is the retarded village idiot. You give your most strategic port in the hands of people who claim to love Israel. How retarded is that?

Seriously, nothing that IR does really makes sense. I am sure world leaders have been wondering why the rulers in Iran act like this way.

On the issue of China. This subject is clear for many Iranians.

Ok ok, fair enough.

 

[sutton9999]

Look at this rant, not uncommon for an Iranian.

Iranians' opinions are shaped by their elites (political orientation) and satellite disk (West).

Compare Iran with Russia, both under sanctions, both sell cheap oil to China, both don't get weapons but commercial goods. Russia's public opinion is very positive on China, while Iran is worse than India's.

 

[Sarhang]

That data on Irian oil exports discount to China comes from Western sources, not Chinese. And you think I should trust the nonsense BS discount number comes out your mouth instead, lol. And why should China readily sell advanced weapons to Iran since it is not even a strategic partner of China and you don't trust Chinese and Chinese products, lol. China is not selling weapons to you and giving you good business deals is because China id scared of US, nonsense.

Cut the crap and stop embarassing yourself.

In the last 5 years, 44 countries received major equipment including drones, missiles, ships, radars, and aircraft .

Are all these 44 nations your strategic partner?

You can not sell to Iran military equipment because you are very afraid of US sanctions.

However you are allowed to continue sell your low quality products. That's fine with the US. But do not cross their red lines or there will be trouble for you.

 

[ShapurII]

About India, they are playing a dirty game, meaning both sides. They are sucking up to Israel and IR at the same time. It's hard to decide what to do with them short of war or economic warfare. In this case, again IR is the village idiot. You give your most strategic port in the hands of people who claim to love Israel. How retarded is that?

Seriously, nothing that IR does really makes sense. I am sure world leaders have been wondering why the rulers in Iran act like this way.

On the issue of China. This subject is clear for many Iranians.

The contract for Chabahar, signed in 2015 during the Rohani administration, will expire soon. It was a 10-year contract and we're in 2025 already.

Indians should get booted out as soon as the contract ends. They didn't do a very good job and India under Modi is different from India under Manmohan Singh.

 

[Sarhang]

Look at this rant, not uncommon for an Iranian.

Iranians' opinions are shaped by their elites (political orientation) and satellite disk (West).

Compare Iran with Russia, both under sanctions, both sell cheap oil to China, both don't get weapons but commercial goods. Russia's public opinion is very positive on China, while Iran is worse than India's.

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Wahhhh mommy help, Iranians suddenly are starting to hating us. It just fell out of the sky and i am totally a victim wahhhh mommy.

 

[ShapurII]

Look at this rant, not uncommon for an Iranian.

Iranians' opinions are shaped by their elites (political orientation) and satellite disk (West).

Compare Iran with Russia, both under sanctions, both sell cheap oil to China, both don't get weapons but commercial goods. Russia's public opinion is very positive on China, while Iran is worse than India's.

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China lost her popularity in Iran after it passed 4 rounds of UN Security Council sanctions on Iran. You can't betray a country and expect them to have a favorable view of you.

You probably don't understand the Persian culture, but in the Persian culture, a friend that betrays your trust is viewed a million times worse than an enemy that has been openly hostile to you.

We have a saying that goes if you have a gun, keep one bullet for your enemy and the remaining ones for traitors. I hope this explains why the opinion of Iranians have changed about China. Sure, Western TV channels do play a role, but if China treated Iran differently, none of their propaganda would've worked.

 

[r3alist]

China lost her popularity in Iran after it passed 4 rounds of UN Security Council sanctions on Iran. You can't betray a country and expect them to have a favorable view of you.

You probably don't understand the Persian culture, but in the Persian culture, a friend that betrays your trust is viewed a million times worse than an enemy that has been openly hostile to you.

We have a saying that goes if you have a gun, keep one bullet for your enemy and the remaining ones for traitors.

But, did Iran and china ever get close enough to be considered friends?

If they are not friends with understand there is no betrayal.

 

[Yasser76]

China lost her popularity in Iran after it passed 4 rounds of UN Security Council sanctions on Iran. You can't betray a country and expect them to have a favorable view of you.

You probably don't understand the Persian culture, but in the Persian culture, a friend that betrays your trust is viewed a million times worse than an enemy that has been openly hostile to you.

We have a saying that goes if you have a gun, keep one bullet for your enemy and the remaining ones for traitors.

Did Iranian love of this culture play a part when Iran bombed Pakistan?

 

[ShapurII]

But, did Iran and china ever get close enough to be considered friends?

If they are not friends with understand there is no betrayal.

We were for a short period, lasting about one or two decades, starting from the presidency of Rafsanjani. Things started to change after 2008-2009 when China continuously voted against Iran in every major international organization.

Nearly every project in Iran was given to China. I saw Chinese people in Tehran very often. China almost had a monopoly in our foreign projects. We even had strong military ties for a short period. China did help Iran during the Iraq-Iran war and after the war.

 

[wangdefa]

That data on Irian oil exports discount to China comes from Western sources, not Chinese. And you think I should trust the nonsense BS discount number comes out your mouth instead, lol. And why should China readily sell advanced weapons to Iran since it is not even a strategic partner of China and you don't trust Chinese and Chinese products, lol. China is not selling weapons to you and giving you good business deals is because China id scared of US, nonsense.

It is pointless for you and the Iranians to debate here, a country infiltrated by spies, media and cognitive abilities that are deliberately manipulative. In our perception, it is inconceivable that the Syrian people chose the latter on the issue of having enough to eat and caring about China's ethnic minorities.
This kind of deliberate information leads the whole country to be more covert than the conquest of a country by war.
Perhaps it is more correct to call it a color revolution. Guided by public opinion, it overturns the potential danger threatening Israel.

 

[r3alist]

We were for a short period, lasting about one or two decades, starting from the presidency of Rafsanjani. Things started to change after 2008-2009 when China continuously voted against Iran in every major international organization.

Nearly every project in Iran was given to China. I saw Chinese people in Tehran very often. China almost had a monopoly in our foreign projects. We even had strong military ties for a short period. China did help Iran during the Iraq-Iran war and after the war.

Here is the crux


Iran considers itself a pole of influence in its own right, therefore will not accept Chinese alignment too much

If you go back 15 years before china entered diplomatic wolf warrior mode, why would it put itself out for Iran in the un ......absent real strategic alignment?

Chinese are from their sensitivities uncomfortable with exporters of revolution as well