Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

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Immortals said:
They have not “blockaded” anything. Harassed sure, but blockade? No absolutely not.
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Well Houthis effectively blockaded Israeli/Genocidal shipping into the black sea and made biggest companies change path of shipping for the child killers, those you see are for other destination or non-genocidal destination ships

And for the destroyer i am sure you know how disproportionately US Ticonderga is armed for instance with nearly 100 VLS cells, the same applies for their destroyer, this is an insane number that would obliterate the ship if just one of them explodes, no matter the size of the warhead

Also in the past during the Iran Iraq war, P series were used, the Sy had a completely disproportionate warhead of 700kg that sank or massively damaged everything it touched

The importance is to note that no warship has been struck for the moment so we should see if one gets struck, and judging by the amount of ammunitions on those ships, it will not be fun for them and the crew members

Tell us at least a missile that can sink tankers in one shot, i would say P-500, P-35 and Kh-22, which are old AF and the recent Chinese missile
 
Immortals said:
It’s called physics. The determinate factor to sink a ship is primarily based on KE energy released upon impact which is speed and warhead size.

There is no “latest” CM or BM in a naval variant unless you are talking about black projects. Which again is irrelevant, since my comment was based on Iran’s current arsenal.

The most powerful missile in Iran’s possession for targeting warships would be the naval variant of Sejill-2. All Fateh family missiles in naval variant form (Hormuz, Persian Gulf, etc) do not carry large enough warheads. Thus they would need assistance by igniting the fuel/ammo storages on board.

For example, the 2 Neptune cruise missiles that sunk the Russia Black Fleet destroyer with their 150lb warheads each did not kinetically destroy the ship. They happened to start a fire near the ammo storage which was unable to be suppressed and caused the chain reaction @tsunset has talked about resulting in a large ammo cook off explosion that obliterated a hole in the hull.

Thus its mighty difficult to sink/fully immobilize a destroyer/cruiser without either

A) a very large warhead or hypersonic energy release

B) causing a chain reaction of fuel or ammo


The Houthi’s attack on mega tankers further reinforces this point. Let me know if this is still difficult for you to understand.
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Again more irrelevant waffle trying to sound as though you have a point. I'll say this to you one last time because the ego is like a wall; the fact is the houthis do not have all of the same arsenal that Iran has, so it would be foolish to assume that Iran is incapable of doing more damage based on what you see from the houthis, who have only a limited number of types/class of Iranian CMs and BMs. I frankly couldn't care less if you understand or not. Final response.
 
jauk said:
Uh-so the vast number of ships rerouted isn’t happening? All this is bogified by your snapshot?

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The re-route is due to shipping insurance carriers like Lloyd’s of London taking advantage of situation and extorting high prices on tankers to insure them.

By your own admission since Oct 7th we have had two tankers severely damaged, with another what 10? 15? tankers suffering some time of light damage from suicide drones or PGMs?

But how many ships went thru the Red Sea during that same period? 1,000? 5000? 10000?

So there is no blockade, just harassment. And because of Western bankers jacking insurance rates up, the tankers with thinner margins are going around the Cape.

I didn’t say the Houthi’s haven’t had an affect on shipping. They sure have. But calling it a blockade is a bit of a stretch at least in terms of naval warfare historical precedent.


tsunset said:
Also in the past during the Iran Iraq war, P series were used, the Sy had a completely disproportionate warhead of 700kg that sank or massively damaged everything it touched
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Yes that is the point I was trying to make that went over a certain individuals thought capacity. It’s all about warhead size. That’s one reason that the silkworm was so deadly if it got thru defenses….it Carried a 500kg warhead.

Compare that to qader at 200kg or Noor at 160kg. Big difference in destructive capability. But silkworm is simply obsolete in todays world as it’s relatively easy to intercept unless used against a defenseless ship.

tsunset said:
The importance is to note that no warship has been struck for the moment so we should see if one gets struck, and judging by the amount of ammunitions on those ships, it will not be fun for them and the crew members
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I don’t think Beshad (which is likely giving coordinates) will turn over precise coordinates to houthis. Because as we saw with US deaths in Jordan, the escalation factor goes up a lot more.


tsunset said:
Tell us at least a missile that can sink tankers in one shot, i would say P-500, P-35 and Kh-22, which are old AF and the recent Chinese missile
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DF-26: Warhead size: 1800kg

Y-18 Mach 3 CM with a 300KG warhead can severely incapacity a US cruiser if not sink it based on KE transfer upon impact. At Mach 3 it would punch a hole thru the ship before detonating deep in the hull.

Khorramshahr family if made into a naval variant would rival DF-26
Sejill-2 naval variant/Emad naval variant


Mega tankers are big beasts, they aren’t easy to bring down. I would say tougher than a US cruiser if both were defenseless. I don’t think people understand just how huge these things are nearly .5KM in length.

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So yeah a 150kg cruise missile ain’t gonna do a whole lot on that bad boy.
 
Immortals said:
The re-route is due to shipping insurance carriers like Lloyd’s of London taking advantage of situation and extorting high prices on tankers to insure them.

By your own admission since Oct 7th we have had two tankers severely damaged, with another what 10? 15? tankers suffering some time of light damage from suicide drones or PGMs?

But how many ships went thru the Red Sea during that same period? 1,000? 5000? 10000?

So there is no blockade, just harassment. And because of Western bankers jacking insurance rates up, the tankers with thinner margins are going around the Cape.

I didn’t say the Houthi’s haven’t had an affect on shipping. But a blockade is a bit of a stretch at least in terms of naval warfare historical precedent.




Yes that is the point I was trying to make that went over a certain individuals thought capacity. It’s all about warhead size. That’s one reason that the silkworm was so deadly if it got thru defenses….it Carried a 500kg warhead.

Compare that to qader at 200kg or Noor at 160kg. Big difference in destructive capability. But silkworm is simply obsolete in todays world as it’s relatively easy to intercept unless used against a defenseless ship.



I don’t think Beshad (which is likely giving coordinates) will turn over precise coordinates to houthis. Because as we saw with US deaths in Jordan, the escalation factor goes up a lot more.




DF-26: Warhead size: 1800kg

Y-18 Mach 3 CM with a 300KG warhead can severely incapacity a US cruiser if not sink it based on KE transfer upon impact. At Mach 3 it would punch a hole thru the ship before detonating deep in the hull.

Khorramshahr family if made into a naval variant would rival DF-26
Sejill-2 naval variant/Emad naval variant


Mega tankers are big beasts, they aren’t easy to bring down. I don’t think people understand just how huge these things are nearly .5KM in length.

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So yeah a 150kg cruise missile ain’t gonna do a whole lot on that bad boy.
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They really can't just use their fucking B-1s and EAG-18/F-15Es to remove a big part the coastal launchers?
 
they claim to have solid fuel ballistic missiles that can reach mach 8 ?

Maybe Iran should start importing missiles from Yemen
 
Persian Gulf said:
they claim to have solid fuel ballistic missiles that can reach mach 8 ?

Maybe Iran should start importing missiles from Yemen
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Why? Iran has fattah-1 which goes Mach 13-15, or is that just a lie by "the mullahs"?
 
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