Japan's Racism Against Muslims Increased : If things worsen, should OIC Countries Ban Trade with Japan and Stop Oil Exports?
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hussain0216
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Warning: Long read
Firstly – I will disagree with many of my friends on this topic.
I’m a frequent visitor to Japan. I stand with the Japanese on this issue. Their country and people’s history go back close to 2,000 years. If I were them, I’d also would rather the organic population decline than to let in Indians, Pakistanis, Afghans, Arabs, Blacks, and Whites.
Islam is alien to the Japanese eco-system. So is Hinduism. If you open the floodgates to massive immigration – you’d turn into another Canada and Germany. This is not hypocrisy on my part as my family migrated to the West in the 70’s. We moved when immigration was trickled and allowed immigrants to systemically integrate and assimilate into the host culture. The last 20 years has been the opposite – floodgates opens and ghetto, ethnic enclaves pop up over night across the West. These people not here to assimilate or contribute to society. Often – all of them come from zero-trust societies where being clever and half is more important than personal and societal ethics. For those here who grew up in the West – like my friends in the UK – you are also pretty much Western – I hope. Where integrity and society based on trust fuels relationship between people.
Not littering on the streets, standing in queue for their turn, not playing loud music in public areas, and general conforming to the rule of the law.
Japanese people take pride in their country and people. Their history is glorious. For the longest time, they had a hard cap on immigration from the non-Asian/non-eastern religions regions. Indians were also included in the hard cap for being an alien culture.
They did not mind the Muslims from countries such as China (ethnic Han), Malaysians, Indonesians, Brunei, and Philippines.
The South-East Asia Muslims are a synchronistic of Islamic and Asian cultures. They are not loud, they act accordingly, and generally well-mannered and peaceful. There are a few mosques in Japan – which is fine, but they do not want mosques popping up all over the place (or Hindu temples).
Praying on the streets, disturbing the peace, misbehaving – all commons amongst Indians, Afghans, Pakistanis, Arabs, and Africans that recently migrated to the West.
Even when I was growing, we visited family in the U.S., and watched some random Bangladeshi (given their looks and dress), separating meats on the sidewalk – I can’t make this up. When you let in large group of people into your country, they tend to come from a lower socio-lower income level thereby living in closed off neighborhoods with like-minded people. There is no desire to learn and adopt the country’s culture and rule of the laws. These new-comers are just happy to make it out of their miserable countries. Many here will get upset at my words – but it’s the 100% truth. The massive Hindu population across the Anglo countries has placed the Hindus that came 60 years ago and properly assimilated. These newcomers like a plague have systemically destroyed the once pristine reputation of the Indians – which all South Asians benefited from to an extent.
Japan rightfully does not want its culture and identity altered as to what has occurred in the West. When you ride their metro or buses, there is absolute quiet – unlike the South Asians, and Africans, and Arabs who are loud people – and have this innate desire to be heard and seen in public.
The Japanese also dislike the Westerners that come there. A Japanese friend told me the deep-hate brewing against aggressive Whites who come and sexually harass Japanese women in front of their husband/boyfriends.
The Japanese do not want these people any where near their businesses, and womenfolk. “Gaijin” means foreigners in Japanese. It’s equally applied to people from the West or East – basically anyone not Japanese.
Finally – Much of the foreign workers in Japan are Main-lander Chinese, and a small amount from Brazil – Japanese descendants.
For those crying racism – I can forgive the folks who grew up in the England as they have a traumatic past given the sheer racial physical abuse the South Asians were subjected to, and still are. I understand your perspective is different from mine as I didn’t suffer nearly as much as you. Please do not take offense to my words above – but they are reflection of the state of the world today. This is not Japanese racism, this them being very polite and gentle. If you want to see the other end of the spectrum - read their behavior towards non-Japanese during WW2.
Firstly – I will disagree with many of my friends on this topic.
I’m a frequent visitor to Japan. I stand with the Japanese on this issue. Their country and people’s history go back close to 2,000 years. If I were them, I’d also would rather the organic population decline than to let in Indians, Pakistanis, Afghans, Arabs, Blacks, and Whites.
Islam is alien to the Japanese eco-system. So is Hinduism. If you open the floodgates to massive immigration – you’d turn into another Canada and Germany. This is not hypocrisy on my part as my family migrated to the West in the 70’s. We moved when immigration was trickled and allowed immigrants to systemically integrate and assimilate into the host culture. The last 20 years has been the opposite – floodgates opens and ghetto, ethnic enclaves pop up over night across the West. These people not here to assimilate or contribute to society. Often – all of them come from zero-trust societies where being clever and half is more important than personal and societal ethics. For those here who grew up in the West – like my friends in the UK – you are also pretty much Western – I hope. Where integrity and society based on trust fuels relationship between people.
Not littering on the streets, standing in queue for their turn, not playing loud music in public areas, and general conforming to the rule of the law.
Japanese people take pride in their country and people. Their history is glorious. For the longest time, they had a hard cap on immigration from the non-Asian/non-eastern religions regions. Indians were also included in the hard cap for being an alien culture.
They did not mind the Muslims from countries such as China (ethnic Han), Malaysians, Indonesians, Brunei, and Philippines.
The South-East Asia Muslims are a synchronistic of Islamic and Asian cultures. They are not loud, they act accordingly, and generally well-mannered and peaceful. There are a few mosques in Japan – which is fine, but they do not want mosques popping up all over the place (or Hindu temples).
Praying on the streets, disturbing the peace, misbehaving – all commons amongst Indians, Afghans, Pakistanis, Arabs, and Africans that recently migrated to the West.
Even when I was growing, we visited family in the U.S., and watched some random Bangladeshi (given their looks and dress), separating meats on the sidewalk – I can’t make this up. When you let in large group of people into your country, they tend to come from a lower socio-lower income level thereby living in closed off neighborhoods with like-minded people. There is no desire to learn and adopt the country’s culture and rule of the laws. These new-comers are just happy to make it out of their miserable countries. Many here will get upset at my words – but it’s the 100% truth. The massive Hindu population across the Anglo countries has placed the Hindus that came 60 years ago and properly assimilated. These newcomers like a plague have systemically destroyed the once pristine reputation of the Indians – which all South Asians benefited from to an extent.
Japan rightfully does not want its culture and identity altered as to what has occurred in the West. When you ride their metro or buses, there is absolute quiet – unlike the South Asians, and Africans, and Arabs who are loud people – and have this innate desire to be heard and seen in public.
The Japanese also dislike the Westerners that come there. A Japanese friend told me the deep-hate brewing against aggressive Whites who come and sexually harass Japanese women in front of their husband/boyfriends.
The Japanese do not want these people any where near their businesses, and womenfolk. “Gaijin” means foreigners in Japanese. It’s equally applied to people from the West or East – basically anyone not Japanese.
Finally – Much of the foreign workers in Japan are Main-lander Chinese, and a small amount from Brazil – Japanese descendants.
For those crying racism – I can forgive the folks who grew up in the England as they have a traumatic past given the sheer racial physical abuse the South Asians were subjected to, and still are. I understand your perspective is different from mine as I didn’t suffer nearly as much as you. Please do not take offense to my words above – but they are reflection of the state of the world today. This is not Japanese racism, this them being very polite and gentle. If you want to see the other end of the spectrum - read their behavior towards non-Japanese during WW2.
The Equalizer
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Japan have its own personal freedom repressed form of culture that have worked for them in positive ways.
For my part, Japan can have zero immigration policy, its their own business. As far as its even possible in this modern hyperconnected world.
The muslim population in Japan is miniscule and clearly no danger to Japanese majority culture.
If some immigrants misbehaves, regardless background, then they deserves deportation ASAP. This applies for misbehaving tourist and immigrants anywhere. When you are a guest you simply respect the rules of your hosts.
AjitWadhwa
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Absolutely true.
Now imagine armed Pakistani Hindus asking randon unarmed Pakistanis to recite a Hindu mantra if they fail, they get shot in the head in point blank range. If it did happen what would be the reaction of Pakistani Muslims?
Recently educated Indian Muslims including doctors who enjoy special benefits in Hindu majority India targetted Hindus.
To the Muslims crying wolf, what would happen to Non Muslims in Muslim countries if they did the same.
Thinking_Hard
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Not going to Japan can help? I mean, migrants are guest and if hosts find them imposing on Japan. People should fix their own countries and stay home...especially Indians of all walks.
Liquidator
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The Japanese will die out.
They've stopped breeding and abandoned family life.
They've become hermits. They prefer cartoons to real life companionship. They have to buy friends and pay young girls dressed up like school girls for company.
They have a miserable work life balance...wake up....work....sleep and the cycle continues. Many kill themselves.
As for those that are asking what should Muslims do to please them? The answer is nothing....Muslims are always hated by the other because it does not yield.
It is what it is. Stay strong and fight.
They've stopped breeding and abandoned family life.
They've become hermits. They prefer cartoons to real life companionship. They have to buy friends and pay young girls dressed up like school girls for company.
They have a miserable work life balance...wake up....work....sleep and the cycle continues. Many kill themselves.
As for those that are asking what should Muslims do to please them? The answer is nothing....Muslims are always hated by the other because it does not yield.
It is what it is. Stay strong and fight.
The Equalizer
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You guys minds really are itchy all the time. Trying to shove in indian communal bullcrab into every debate.
Stop using strawman and playing dumb while trying to lit fire and anti-muslim hatred. Nobody is excusing stupid and illegal behaviour from anybody.
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Foinikas
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That's what everyone says on the internet. Evangelicals the fastest,Catholics the fastest,Orthodox the fastest growing faith in the world,Hinduism,Buddhism,paganism.
Master Chief
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Unlike in Japan, Muslims are not "guests" in your land, nor is islamic culture and ritual any more foreign to South Asia than vedic culture and ritual.
They built your nation and defended it against European invaders (and against Hindus who allied with European invaders). Any hindutva or "secular" government would do well to respect the legacy of South Asian muslims in general. Partition would be such a ghastly affair.
hussain0216
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The Equalizer
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It really tells a lot when somebody despise their own countrymen so much that they try paint them bad in front of foreigners. Its a completely self-defeating mindset.
AjitWadhwa
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They may have been granted Indian citizenship after creating Pakistan and staying behind.
But they love Pakistan. I have personally seen them cheering for Pakistan in India-Pakistan cricket match. Plus they sympathize more with Pakistani Muslims than Indian Hindus.
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Thinking_Hard
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Follows the fertility rate of various religions. I am appalled that Hindus are still growing so fast. Christians are mixed bags.
hussain0216
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Fertility rate just means family orientation
Islam keeps the family strong
Islam has guidelines for both men and women, husband and wife
The family is the basis of community and the community is what creates a state
The more other ideologies fail, the more they face demographic crisis
If Muslims can maintain faith, values, culture and family then that 2 billion population will head towards 3 billion and maintain a lower average age, whilst multiple countries face ageing populations and the resulting crises
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