‘Nepal's hydropower can benefit Bangladesh, entire region’

Yes, cherry pick one set of data and conveniently disregard the rest. Let's bring in the total cost of living (rent, food, education, healthcare, transport) increase in the last 16 years and then let's talk how much wealth increase there has actually been.

As for increase in wealth gap- read this: https://aje.io/pvmvla

Nothing subjective about it.


I already mentioned that garment workers are around 2x better off in real terms, taking inflation into account. It is more likely 2.5x more in real terms. Not enough of course but going in the right direction.

As for increase in wealth disparity, BD is not unique and apart from a few examples this is a worldwide phenomenon.
 
I already mentioned that garment workers are around 2x better off in real terms, taking inflation into account. It is more likely 2.5x more in real terms. Not enough of course but going in the right direction.

As for increase in wealth disparity, BD is not unique and apart from a few examples this is a worldwide phenomenon.
If the source of your 2x increase in real terms is from Hasina administration, then there is no reason for anyone to believe that.

In the coming days, we will see the history of economic data fudging come to light. We will then have a discussion.

 
Hasina era growth was debt fuelled.

It is complicated matter.

But the problem that Yunus et al have inherited is that forex level is 18 billion USD and the external debt (split about 75% pubic and 25% private) is about 100+ billion USD.

It is about 18% coverage. This means a pretty heavy traffic snarl for new capital outlay (where most of this debt originates from to begin with).

For comparison, India has about 100% coverage (forex and external debt both around 650 billion USD). Pakistan just before IMF bailout had coverage around 7% (8 billion forex and 120 billion external debt iirc)....and with IMF bailout has around 10%+ now.

Only way for BD is to improve its institutional credibility to have better pools of solvency to earn better credit rating for its govt bonds (both those in USD and Taka) etc.

Maybe next year when Yunus admin has charted more ground and time and the white paper is released (regarding the Hasina admin data problems etc).

You have to get these things right (that can be measured objectively + directly, given intrinsic vetting by entities outside BD related to trade, investment, finance flows) inside out, for GDP to matter and gain credibility after it organically...especially for BD's population size and investment trajectory needs. It is precisely the reason BD suffered bad credit rating (and this % of traffic snarl thats going to play out for a while now) and needed to price its govt bonds at higher rates than would otherwise have been needed.....regd whatever the real GDP ramp was under Hasina tenure (versus whatever % fluff on top that BD will have to credibly establish going forward to get better investor and loan-inflow sentiment again).

Obviously her tenure had mix of policies + management, good and bad. BD can do proper hindsight analysis and take the positives and diminish the negatives under Yunus hopefully and subsequent tenures following him, but they need proper disciplined technocratic teams here.

All the talk of heavy capital outlay for longer term regd energy (nuclear power plants, grid expansion with India/Bhutan/Nepal, local powerplants) is longer term issue after better setting in trust (for investors both inside and outside, outside especially since world is capital surplus compared to BD) is achieved.

i.e can Yunus assign a team to work with BD RMG corporates to look into why BD has not been able to over last say 10 years taken deeper bite into China's RMG exports....China is still exporting 100+ billion with labour wages much higher than BD.

Each year BD has maybe shifted a cpl billion to itself....for RMG export (and remittance) based country for current account.... this is nowhere near adequate especially to then finance/attract investment into other sectors outside RMG.

Only if you analyse and understand how to pull significant 10+ billion chunks of that each couple years (given BD already has foot in RMG door competitiveness), i.e address the capital and other chokepoints.....will BD achieve actual demand pull for things like higher electric energy consumption to need this thread subject in proper way in first place....rather than get into another capital sink first, putting cart before donkey "as usual in developing world, govt brochurism + bureaucratic busybodyism", white elephant stuff that got say SL, Pak et al. into major trouble....i.e not sufficient tuning into even rest of 10% pyramid top regd genuine enterprise needs/analysis from their end to make proper policy and outlay.

BD industrialisation has not been adequate past the BAL brochures, it tells in export figures both scale and composition....and the results in the forex now (i.e the capital cost trajectory objectively being out of step to BD's inelastic RMG+remit earning reliance in current account).

Yunus and team he assembles have to do lot of hard work to cultivating genuine institutional architecture for BD long term.
 
That will depend upon Chinese goodwill and what price China want to extract out of you. If China wants you to lease Chittagong port to it for next to nothing, will you do it? If they want to appoint their preferred candidates in political posts, will you do it?
Lets see what future holds...
Hasina affair has been a part of India's foreign policy since ... forever. Under many different governments.
We know...
 
So many of BDeshis are found jumping fences, some get killed by honest BSF personnels,, some are helped to infiltrate by corrupt BSF scums and found with fake IDs in police investigations.
With a friendly govt gone and current rulers giving hostile signals, India can be more ruthless against infiltrators.

These east and west Pakistanis cheered when scum like Dhruv Rathee made videos about BD's high income, not mentioning "debt fueled" growth.
Bangladeshis and Pakistanis were KAANGS with debt fueled GDP till they realised they were not.
 
We know...

You need to explain this to our resident self-appointed honorary Bangladeshi ie Mr Sleepy Joe and our RaGa-Congress simp doc.

Apparently both of them think that interference in Bangladesh and prop'in up Hasina is a BJP-only phenomenon which started circa 2014. And these two are supposedly learned indians. No wonder India falters more than a drunkard.
 
So we can carryout our river management projects with Chinese help.
The kind of projects you mentioned are large-scale engineering projects. China is really good at doing this kind of project. But such projects require a stable social environment and reliable government support. Clearly, Bangladesh does not have the necessary environment today.

You mentioned the garment industry in Bangladesh.

At present, labor costs in China have risen sharply. Under the guidance and support of the Chinese government, many Chinese companies are transforming to smart factories. However, this is a very large expense, and only large and powerful enterprises can afford it. Many small and medium-sized enterprises have either been merged or closed down, and more small and medium-sized enterprises have chosen to move to neighboring countries under the guidance of the government.

The traditional garment industry is a typical labor-intensive industry, which requires a large number of cheap workers. Many small and medium-sized garment enterprises in China have begun to move to Southeast Asia, such as: Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia...........

If Bangladesh is interested, it can go directly to China's Guangdong Province and Fujian Province to set up investment promotion agencies, which are the strongholds of China's garment industry and home to countless garment companies.

As for large-scale engineering projects, when the domestic situation in Bangladesh is stabilized, the Bangladeshi government will go directly to the Chinese government to negotiate. The projects that Bangladesh wants to build are small projects for the Chinese government...........

But these projects need a stable environment in Bangladesh, and We can't build in a volatile environment...........
 
You just don't understand the life under the brutal Hasina regime.

Extrajudicial killing, false imprisonment, abductions and secret prisons - people were terrified of Hasina and her thugs. People had no option but to tolerate her. Not because she was developing the country. Wait for Debapriya Bhattacharya's whitepaper to come out in the next few months, we will get to know how much "development" she has really done as well.

There were multiple outbursts against Hasina - 2012 coup attempt in military, 2013 Hefajat protest which ended in a bloodbath, 2018 Quota protests where she had to back down, 2018 road safety protest by school children, 2019 BUET students banding together to kick BAL goons out from BUET student halls following Abrar Fahad's death. Hasina thugs went hard against school children and beat them up as well, because madame felt insecure. People got killed by BAL thugs because of Facebook posts - the case of Abrar Fahad. Does any of this seem normal to you?

As for Hasina trying to stop the student protest - does close to 1000 death seem like she didn't try hard enough? There were block raids and mass arrests of thousands of students and young men, on the nights when internet was shut down. If the army had not stepped aside, she would have been successful in holding onto her power. She ordered army to shoot at civilians. The Indian intelligence failure was in being unable to anticipate that Army chief will not side with Hasina even though he was her relative.

As for Indian interference - you don't believe testimonials and eye witness accounts. Nor are you able to read between the lines. So unless Modi himself writes a personal letter to you, you won't believe.

But let me give you a quick tip nonetheless - go to any BAL leader hiding in UK. Better if they are from border districts of Bangladesh and applied to get a nomination in any of the elections last decade and a half. Ask them if they were able to get nominations without RAW blessing or not. You will get your answer.

This is my take. Anyone who is ruthless and willing to kill indiscriminately with the loyalty of security apparatus is staying in power. Look at North Korea's, Myanmar's, Iran's, Syria's of the world.
 
India has been heavily investing in infrastructure to overcome these challenges, and the connectivity to the Northeast has significantly improved over the years. The Bogibeel Bridge and Dhola-Sadiya Bridge make crossing the Brahmaputra so much easier and quicker. These are big, heavy-duty structures that handle tons of traffic and goods. We've got four-lane highways like NH-27 that have really improved road connectivity. We’ve also got new railway lines coming up, like the Sevoke-Rangpo line to Sikkim, making sure trains can get to the Northeast without any trouble. Plus, using alternative routes like the Kaladan Multi-Modal Transit Transport Project through Myanmar and the India-Myanmar-Thailand Trilateral Highway offers additional options for connecting the Northeast without relying on Bangladesh. We’re boosting air travel and even working on waterways like National Waterway 2.
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Thanks. I was forgetting the name of the Burma transit node.
 
India has been heavily investing in infrastructure to overcome these challenges, and the connectivity to the Northeast has significantly improved over the years. The Bogibeel Bridge and Dhola-Sadiya Bridge make crossing the Brahmaputra so much easier and quicker. These are big, heavy-duty structures that handle tons of traffic and goods. We've got four-lane highways like NH-27 that have really improved road connectivity. We’ve also got new railway lines coming up, like the Sevoke-Rangpo line to Sikkim, making sure trains can get to the Northeast without any trouble. Plus, using alternative routes like the Kaladan Multi-Modal Transit Transport Project through Myanmar and the India-Myanmar-Thailand Trilateral Highway offers additional options for connecting the Northeast without relying on Bangladesh. We’re boosting air travel and even working on waterways like National Waterway 2.
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Plus, using alternative routes like the Kaladan Multi-Modal Transit Transport Project through Myanmar and the India-Myanmar-Thailand Trilateral Highway offers additional options for connecting the Northeast without relying on Bangladesh. We’re boosting air travel and even working on waterways like National Waterway 2.

Now above is really interesting...
 
So we can carryout our river management projects with Chinese help.
You seem to be in lalaland. BD carries very little weight in the Chinese strategic calculus. The top few countries that China is focussed on, either as friend, foe or frenemy , not necessarily in order of importance are
1) US
2)Taiwan
3)Japan
4)South Korea
5) Russia
6) India
7)EU
8)Vietnam
9) Phillipines
10)Australia
11) North Korea
12) UK
13)Pakistan
14)Myanmar
15) Singapore
16)Saudi + GCC

Even in South Asia, the ranking would be
1) India
2)Pakistan
3)Myanmar
4)Nepal
5)Bhutan
6) Afghanistan

Maybe BD would rank ahead of SL and Maldives and I am not even sure about that .

So, China is unlikely to commit to any investments without the prospect of a commercial return in the near future.

BD is on its own for the most part.
 
Fortunately, China doesn't run on some asshole Bhakt's pov.

Let it be known they repeatedly expressed their willingness to do teesta river management project with a total cost upto $1 billion.


It was Hassina that stalled them due to Indian pressure as India also offered to do the project themselves.
Lol. You are so naive. How is this going to be funded ? Through another debt trap like in Pakistan and SL ? Unlike the US and Europe , China will not provide grants. Just look at some of the CPEC loans to check the interest rates at which China will lend even with sovereign guarantees.
 
Lol. You are so naive. How is this going to be funded ? Through another debt trap like in Pakistan and SL ? Unlike the US and Europe , China will not provide grants. Just look at some of the CPEC loans to check the interest rates at which China will lend even with sovereign guarantees.

O, I wasn't talking to you. yes, it would funded by loan. And no, this is no debt trap. Just the usual process.
 

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