New smaller provinces or administrative units are the real devolution of power and progress

[imadul]

It was Mohsin Naqvi or whose voice was that, system is done and dusted.
instead of talking about the breakneck speed AI is developing and Anthropic, Google, Meta talking about slowing down the progress, Pakistan still searching for clean water, affordable power and just comfortable mode of transportation.

Smaller provinces, power and finance devolved at city level are the right way to go. Are the powers that be are serious or it is just a diversion?
There is no single problem, there are many, people always conflate many things together.
Need both a holistic view and granular view about serious problems.

 

[brazensword]

You could have 100 provinces and Pakistan still wont progress an inch in a 100 years.

 

[EugeneP]

You could have 100 provinces and Pakistan still wont progress an inch in a 100 years.

You have any work to show for such profound statement? Pakistan has progressed enormously in 80 years.
e.g.
Life expectancy at birth was 32 years in 1947. It is 68 in 2025.
Infant mortality was 25% in 1947, it is 5% in 2025.
Literacy was 16% it is 63% in 2025.
Per capita income in 1947 was $100. It is $1,700 in 2025.

 

[brazensword]

You have any work to show for such profound statement? Pakistan has progressed enormously in 80 years.
e.g.
Life expectancy at birth was 32 years in 1947. It is 68 in 2025.
Infant mortality was 25% in 1947, it is 5% in 2025.
Literacy was 16% it is 63% in 2025.
Per capita income in 1947 was $100. It is $1,700 in 2025.

Oh bhai. Bangladesh per capita reached 3000 USD.

Pakistan is gonna stay exactly where it is.

 

[imadul]

You have any work to show for such profound statement? Pakistan has progressed enormously in 80 years.
e.g.
Life expectancy at birth was 32 years in 1947. It is 68 in 2025.
Infant mortality was 25% in 1947, it is 5% in 2025.
Literacy was 16% it is 63% in 2025.
Per capita income in 1947 was $100. It is $1,700 in 2025.

A better comparison is
Pakistan and China per capital income.
1960 is the earlier available data

• Pakistan: $82 per capita
• China: $90 per capita

2024 - 2026

• Pakistan (2024): $1,578 per capita
• China (2024): $13,453 per capita

Tells the whole story.

Country comparison Pakistan vs China 2026

Country comparison, you can compare any two countries and see the data side by side. Here you have the comparison of Pakistan vs China

countryeconomy.com

 

[EugeneP]

Oh bhai. Bangladesh per capita reached 3000 USD.

Pakistan is gonna stay exactly where it is.

What brilliant logic: Bangladesh does better so Pakistan will remain exactly where it is. If somebody else has a faster car, my car is broken and can't run!

 

[brazensword]

What brilliant logic: Bangladesh does better so Pakistan will remain exactly where it is!

Pakistanis don't see the irony in that, point still stands.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

But Karachi already have powerful mayor, the one and only

 

[Jango]

You have any work to show for such profound statement? Pakistan has progressed enormously in 80 years.
e.g.
Life expectancy at birth was 32 years in 1947. It is 68 in 2025.
Infant mortality was 25% in 1947, it is 5% in 2025.
Literacy was 16% it is 63% in 2025.
Per capita income in 1947 was $100. It is $1,700 in 2025.

Do you know what the global averages are for these metrics? Nevermind that of developed nations?

Per capita income is a sham. Life expectancy and mortality have improved as a consequence of medical progress globally and we are well positioned to take benefit from global benefits. We are not Sierra Leone lol.

This is typical bureaucrat babu thinking, stats in a vacuum.

If you're running with 10 people, and those 10 have lapped you, but you are still moving at snail's pace, then it doesn't mean you are still progressing. The reality check has to come some time.

 

[EugeneP]

Do you know what the global averages are for these metrics? Nevermind that of developed nations?

Per capita income is a sham. Life expectancy and mortality have improved as a consequence of medical progress globally and we are well positioned to take benefit from global benefits. We are not Sierra Leone lol.

This is typical bureaucrat babu thinking, stats in a vacuum.

If you're running with 10 people, and those 10 have lapped you, but you are still moving at snail's pace, then it doesn't mean you are still progressing. The reality check has to come some time.

You are saying Pakistan has not developed as much as other countries. But OP is saying it is at standstill. There is a difference between not fast enough and not moving.

 

[Eşbah]

You are saying Pakistan has not developed as much as other countries. But OP is saying it is at standstill. There is a difference between not fast enough and not moving.

Some (Western) experts claim that Pakistan's progress is actually real but it is absorbed by its ever growing population.