New York poised for first South Asian - origin and Muslim mayor as Cuomo concedes to Mamdani

High(er) taxes to cover social WELFARE programs is not socialism. The Nordic countries repeatedly stated they are capitalist countries.
Says the guy who doesn't know the difference between socialism and communism.

Nordic countries will say they're capitalist, because to say they're socialist would likely incur the wrath of the US.

Another countries that practically socialist that you yourself support is Israel. They also have pockets of communist communities called Kibbutz all of the land. Economically, they worked out as well.
There are/were plenty of countries who can/have defied US sanctions and dealt with Venezuela. Same with Cuba. One of those countries is Canada. :LOL:
Cuba literally has a naval blockade surrounding it, and most of the trade is done through other means, and is limited in nature, due to the US blocking most trade.

I probably understand ideologies better than you do.
No, you really don't.
 
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The xenophobic rhetoric is conveniently weaponised by the American deep state when they want to character assassinate someone's public approval on policies they don't like.

In this case, Mamdani's crime was not being Indian, it was being anti-Israel. Hence the xenophobic greenlight was given.

This is the same that happens when the USA needs to justify supporting a war, suddenly they shift from a politically correct anti-racist society to a tacit approval to weaponise racism.

At least this is how I view it as a non-American.
True in many ways. The shift after 9/11 was the most dramatic example of this in recent history. It was the day the 90s Koom-bai-ya moment really ended.

In the tv show the west wing, in only a matter of months the rhetoric changed and laid the ground work for the disastrous war in Iraq.



The 90s Clinton White House illusion of the anti-racist liberal has been exposed in recent years.

The following is what many in the Clinton White House really felt. He came back as an Obama era advisor.

This is why the younger generations need to change society, and they can start to do that in this upcoming election.

 
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He’s moving the Overton window and enough of the public responded, or else he wouldn’t have won the primary. We will have to see in November if it’s enough of the public to win him the election.

Even Tucker Carlson pointed to the cost of living as the core issue in young people’s minds, more than any other.

The xenophobic rhetoric is also a real factor. Only the Republican, Sliwa, said to focus on his policies, not his faith or ethnicity.
Crazy ideas have always had significant minority support. The number of votes Mamdani got in the primary is less than 10% of the voters in the general election. Once people realise how many businesses will flee NYC if he implements his manifesto, they will turn up to vote. If he does win and implements his manifesto, it will devastate the city's economy and Dems nationwide will have to deal with the fallout for decades.

Of course, there are bigoted people who oppose him because of his religion and ethnicity, but that is not why the Democratic establishment wants a mainstream candidate. It is because of his crazy and impractical ideas. If Zohran had a resume like Vivek, for example, he would probably have gotten even Bloomberg's endorsement.
 
Crazy ideas have always had significant minority support. The number of votes Mamdani got in the primary is less than 10% of the voters in the general election. Once people realise how many businesses will flee NYC if he implements his manifesto, they will turn up to vote. If he does win and implements his manifesto, it will devastate the city's economy and Dems nationwide will have to deal with the fallout for decades.

Of course, there are bigoted people who oppose him because of his religion and ethnicity, but that is not why the Democratic establishment wants a mainstream candidate. It is because of his crazy and impractical ideas. If Zohran had a resume like Vivek, for example, he would probably have gotten even Bloomberg's endorsement.

No they won't

Businesses are in NY because it benefits them, it's one of the greatest cities in the world, even if it is a shit hole

All major cities have become like this

Where are they gonna move to? Hick Town, Kansas?, Whitetrashville, Ohio?

The businesses won't move, and nothing about Mamdani is excessive or overly communist or any of the other bullshit labels being thrown around

He seems quite intelligent, well put together and has a manifesto,, you don't need decades of experience being a corrupt politician to bring change

What will effect him is ingrained racism, stupidity and the system trying to counter him and throw their weight behind Cuomo regardless of his indiscretions
 
Where are they gonna move to? Hick Town, Kansas?, Whitetrashville, Ohio?
Why move that far ? Most will stay within the NY tri-state area, all of which is also blue, by the way.
 
Says the guy who doesn't know the difference between socialism and communism.
As a refugee from communism, they are the same.

Nordic countries will say they're capitalist, because to say they're socialist would likely incur the wrath of the US.
Utter nonsense. They are capitalists because they actually engaged in capitalism.

Cuba literally has a naval blockade surrounding it, and most of the trade is done through other means, and is limited in nature, due to the US blocking most trade.
No such blockade.

Here is Cuba trade history...


Cooperation between Cuba and the EU began over three decades ago. The Caribbean island has been receiving humanitarian and development aid, either from or subsidised by the EU, since 1984, while the two territories forged diplomatic ties four years later [4]. Since the 1980s, the EU has invested over 300 million EUR in more than 200 projects on the island, in areas such as transport, energy and telecommunications [5]. Despite this, emergency missions dominated the first two decades of bilateral relations, including responses to natural disasters, which were managed by the Directorate-General for European Civil Protection and Humanitarian Aid Operations (DG ECHO). Since the early 1990s and the collapse of the Socialist Bloc, which caused an economic downturn in Cuba due to considerable losses of subsidies and trade links, the ECHO has directly provided around 100 million EUR worth of funding for overseas aid to Cuba [6]. In this sense, EU agencies were able to meet the material needs of both the Cuban state and the electorate.​

This 'blockade' argument have been debunked long ago.
 

Zohran Mamdani is giving NYC businesses fair notice: He’s coming after them​

By
Post Editorial Board
Published July 17, 2025, 7:34 p.m. ET

Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani is giving business leaders fair warning: He promised he’d tax them and wealthy New Yorkers if elected — and he means to keep that promise.

He basically dared them to leave the city if he did.

Say goodbye to city tax revenue and jobs and hello to a downward spiral, if that happens.

On Tuesday, the Dem front-runner met with 100 of the city’s top business leaders and made absolutely no attempt to hide his plans.

“He didn’t back away from any policy position,” one attendee told The Post.

As The Post’s Charles Gasparino reproted, many top business honchos are now “looking for an exit strategy rather than a strategy to deal with a mayor Mamdani.”

 
As a refugee from communism, they are the same.
Nope. They are not.

You being a refugees means nothing.
Utter nonsense. They are capitalists because they actually engaged in capitalism.
You have no idea what capitalism even is either.
No such blockade.
Blockade exists, whether you believe it or not.
Here is Cuba trade history...


Cooperation between Cuba and the EU began over three decades ago. The Caribbean island has been receiving humanitarian and development aid, either from or subsidised by the EU, since 1984, while the two territories forged diplomatic ties four years later [4]. Since the 1980s, the EU has invested over 300 million EUR in more than 200 projects on the island, in areas such as transport, energy and telecommunications [5]. Despite this, emergency missions dominated the first two decades of bilateral relations, including responses to natural disasters, which were managed by the Directorate-General for European Civil Protection and Humanitarian Aid Operations (DG ECHO). Since the early 1990s and the collapse of the Socialist Bloc, which caused an economic downturn in Cuba due to considerable losses of subsidies and trade links, the ECHO has directly provided around 100 million EUR worth of funding for overseas aid to Cuba [6]. In this sense, EU agencies were able to meet the material needs of both the Cuban state and the electorate.​

This 'blockade' argument have been debunked long ago.
It was never debunked, and I already said trade exists in other forms, which as less efficient, causing a lot of problems for Cuba.

This doesn't prove me wrong at all.
 

Zohran Mamdani is giving NYC businesses fair notice: He’s coming after them​

By
Post Editorial Board
Published July 17, 2025, 7:34 p.m. ET

Democratic mayoral nominee Zohran Mamdani is giving business leaders fair warning: He promised he’d tax them and wealthy New Yorkers if elected — and he means to keep that promise.

He basically dared them to leave the city if he did.

Say goodbye to city tax revenue and jobs and hello to a downward spiral, if that happens.

On Tuesday, the Dem front-runner met with 100 of the city’s top business leaders and made absolutely no attempt to hide his plans.

“He didn’t back away from any policy position,” one attendee told The Post.

As The Post’s Charles Gasparino reproted, many top business honchos are now “looking for an exit strategy rather than a strategy to deal with a mayor Mamdani.”

If Mamdani manages to tax the rich in NYC, he will become the most popular politician in America overnight and nobody will remember Trump.
 

Democratic Socialism Is Totalitarianism​


After writing about the upset election win of socialist Zohran Mamdani in New York City’s Democratic mayoral primary, a reader sent me an angry email, telling me that Mamdani was a “democratic socialist,” and that Sen. Bernie Sanders and Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez were “social democrats.” The sender apparently wanted me to believe that all they wanted was to make New York and the United States into Denmark.
After all, isn’t Denmark one of the world’s happiest countries? Doesn’t it have a $22 minimum wage? (Actually, it has no federal minimum wage). Doesn’t it have wonderful welfare benefits along with lots of personal freedom? So, if we can just elect the kind of politicians that want to turn the US into Denmark, then we should do it.

There are some issues, of course.

For one, Denmark is far from a socialist country and it certainly does not have a socialist planned economy. This is an important point, because AOC, Sanders, and Mamdani all have called for substantial government planning and ownership and Mamdani has gone even further. The socialist online magazine Jacobin recently praised Mamdani precisely because he does call for the full socialist economy:

No one should be surprised that Zohran Mamdani supports democratic control over the economy, the end goal of socialism. But he won because he combined socialist politics with practical solutions to the cost-of-living crisis facing working people.

At a 2021 conference of the Young Democratic Socialists of America (YDSA), Zohran Mamdani discussed various short-term reforms favored by the organization. But alongside offering his thoughts on the groups’ immediate aims, he also had something to say about “end goal” of socialist politics: “seizing the means of production.”

In the last week, the clip resurfaced on right-wing social media, where it’s been treated as a damning discovery about Mamdani, who just won a primary to become the Democratic nominee for mayor in New York City.

National Review ran a brief item on the clip under the headline “Uh, That’s Literal Communism!” On CNN, Scott Jennings concurred, saying that Mamdani was “using the language of the Bolsheviks.” Congresswoman Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY) said that this was “the scariest thing Mamdani has said” and that it was “straight out of Karl Marx’s Communist playbook.”

It’s unclear why these remarks about the end goal of socialist politics are supposed to be shocking.
There is much to process in this short passage, and it speaks volumes about so-called democratic socialists. For that matter, that socialists would want to identify with the Jacobins speaks volumes to their intentions, given that the Jacobins were the first political party to organize and carry out political terror complete with mass executions during the French Revolution. Second, by claiming that “democratic control over the economy” means the state “seizing the means of production,” they speak to the totalitarian and violent nature of their “democratic” beliefs. One does not “seize” anything without coercion. As Jacobin editor Bhaskar Sunkara bragged in a recent interview, “We were not trying to hide Marxism.”

Lest anyone doubt the coercive and violent nature of American socialists, the recent Socialism 2025 conference in Chicago featured speaker after speaker calling for outright totalitarian control of all of American life. Among the proposals from speakers and delegates (all of whom were required to wear N-95 or K95 masks as part of the uniform) were taken from “democratic” socialist movements like the Bolshevik Revolution and Pol Pot’s Cambodian terror, and included:

  • Replacing the family unit with communes (reminiscent of a scene from “The Killing Fields” in which the Khmer Rouge overseers show their subjects a drawing with a family X’d out);
  • Using public schools to “radicalize” young people before they get to college;
  • Continue to use higher education as a tool to undermine the universities and society;
  • Dismantle the current United States but replace it with a “democratic socialist,” centralized entity where the state has complete control over everything.

As David Sypher, Jr., writes:

The overarching belief is clear: America’s systems – capitalism, policing, meritocracy, marriage – are all inherently oppressive and must be torn down and replaced with something “equitable.”
Although Mamdani has not publicly commented on the recent Socialism conference, he himself has called for ending private home ownership and replacing private dwellings with communal living. He also claims that private ownership of housing and profit-seeking by home builders is the main cause of homelessness. (One is reminded of the scene in the 1965 film “Dr. Zhivago” where Yuri comes home from the war after the Revolution to a house that has been divided up for different families).

Since Mamdani has openly called for the state to seize the methods of production along with private housing, there is little if any difference between his worldview and that of the most radical collectivists. That Bernie Sanders and AOC have endorsed him also speaks volumes about their own beliefs. We are supposed to believe that all they want to do is to make the US a little more like Denmark. One should wonder if the people cheering at their “Fighting Oligarchy” rallies understand just how their lives would change—and not for the better—if Sanders, Mamdani, and AOC get the “Democratic Socialism” that they want.

But what about the rest of the Democratic Party that doesn’t support Mamdani and so-called Democratic Socialism? To a certain extent, many of them are dependent upon a system of intervention that allows them to gain personal wealth from regulated capitalism and they realize that they would be left in the cold if the US really were to go fully socialist, as the left wing of the Democratic Party would like to do. Thus, we understand their resistance to the Mamdani campaign.

The Democrats were in this same place more than 90 years ago. The socialist writer Upton Sinclair in a huge electoral upset won the California Democratic Party primary for governor in 1934, running on a platform to “abolish poverty.” As Steven F. Hayward wrote recently in the Wall Street Journal:

Sinclair ran on a radical platform known by the acronym EPIC, for End Poverty in California. EPIC proposed universal old-age pensions (before Social Security), Soviet-style collective farms, state-run industries that would “produce for use, not for profit,” and perhaps property confiscation.
(Note that Mamdani has not called for the creation of collective farms in New York, which should not be surprising, given there are no farms in the city. However, in 1934, many Americans were enamored by the so-called Soviet Experiment in communism, which was much more highly regarded in the US than it would be later during the Cold War.)


President Franklin Roosevelt was not pleased with the result, as he worried that Sinclair’s radical campaign might turn people against his New Deal plans. While incumbent Republican Gov. Frank Merriam was unpopular, many Democrats and Republicans looked to run an “independent” candidate, Raymond Haight, as a foil to the other candidates.

Ultimately, Hollywood (which at that time had not been politically radicalized) turned up the rhetorical and broadcasting heat against Sinclair, and that proved to be the difference. Merriam won the election, and the socialists had to look elsewhere for electoral success.

Like the Mamdani platform and the socialist “vision” given in Chicago, Sinclair’s political promises could only be accomplished through coercion and propaganda. As Ludwig von Mises wrote more than a century ago in Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis, socialism cannot work the way its promoters claim. As we have seen from the Bolshevik Revolution to modern times, socialists had absolute power to direct both labor and resources to whatever purposes they wished, yet their attempts failed miserably.

However, socialists continue to press on and now they seem to be enjoying political success. And while they throw in the word “democratic” to soften the blow, one cannot implement socialism without violence and threats of violence, since it requires confiscation of the property of others and seizes resources to change economic outcomes. In the end, it becomes yet another form of totalitarianism.

 

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