Operation Azm-e-Istehkam | آپریشن عزم استحکام

[Fatman17]

Let's just say that Munir's ego was hurt after the talk. Now, unless he keeps his cool, thinks it through, and acts rationally, it will determine the course of action. But so far, the situation is somewhat out of his control; he bit off more than he can chew.

I spoke with my colleague the other day about the trip to China who was there; they tried very hard to pitch the SIFC and were completely rebuffed that the Chinese didn't even bother acknowledging it with a response.

Brought down to earth with a big Thud. They never expected that.

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

Hopefully no negotiations with TTP which were on the cards when Taliban Khan was PM.

Taliban sharif?

PCNS unanimously agrees to continue talks with TTP | The Express Tribune

Sanaullah says all politicians agreed on continuing dialogue, all proceedings to be supervised by parliament

tribune.com.pk

 

[Lulldapull]

Taliban sharif?
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PCNS unanimously agrees to continue talks with TTP | The Express Tribune

Sanaullah says all politicians agreed on continuing dialogue, all proceedings to be supervised by parliament

tribune.com.pk

If we pander to the whims of these dehshatgard tanzeemain on afghani talibunny bhatta…….i don’t believe any one of us here would want to call ourselves Pakistani.

This is unacceptable!

 

[PakAl]

 

[prothought]

After all this 7-page blabber, no one really has told us why this operation would hurt our national interests or at least is not needed. The way lawlessness is spreading throughout the country, especially across KPK, it should be worrisome for any law-abiding Pakistani.

Just this recent incident in Swat where an innocent person was burned to death alive should be an eye opener. It was not just a spontaneous reaction from the mob. The way it was done and propagated makes it appear to be a planned act of terrorism to stir ethnic unrest. It’s just one example. The writ of the state and rule of law are pre-requisite for a peaceful society. The state has to deal with these sick-minded bloodthirsty elements in the society who might be active under the garb of political workers. After all, thousands of terrorists (i.e. murderers of thousands of innocent Pakistanis) were reportedly brought back from Afghanistan and settled into the cities and towns of Pakistan by IK government (without even informing the parliament of Pakistan). No one really expect those terrorists to turn into law-loving citizens overnight. The state has resources to trace those terrorists out and their mentors to be brought to justice.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

they tried very hard to pitch the SIFC and were completely rebuffed that the Chinese didn't even bother acknowledging it with a response.

Ngl this made me laugh

What were these guys thinking

 

[SaadH]

After all this 7-page blabber, no one really has told us why this operation would hurt our national interests or at least is not needed. The way lawlessness is spreading throughout the country, especially across KPK, it should be worrisome for any law-abiding Pakistani.

Just this recent incident in Swat where an innocent person was burned to death alive should be an eye opener. It was not just a spontaneous reaction from the mob. The way it was done and propagated makes it appear to be a planned act of terrorism to stir ethnic unrest. It’s just one example. The writ of the state and rule of law are pre-requisite for a peaceful society. The state has to deal with these sick-minded bloodthirsty elements in the society who might be active under the garb of political workers. After all, thousands of terrorists (i.e. murderers of thousands of innocent Pakistanis) were reportedly brought back from Afghanistan and settled into the cities and towns of Pakistan by IK government (without even informing the parliament of Pakistan). No one really expect those terrorists to turn into law-loving citizens overnight. The state has resources to trace those terrorists out and their mentors to be brought to justice.

Same reason rad-ul-fasad was a massive failure...trying same thing and expecting a different result is a definition of insanity...

 

[hussain0216]

Same reason rad-ul-fasad was a massive failure...trying same thing and expecting a different result is a definition of insanity...

It's mowing the grass

Their is no real end game or solution because of they type of backwards people In Afghanistan or our tribal areas

The best you can do is manage the situation,
Constant IBOs
And occasional big operations every few years to kill as many yahoos as we can to try and get a few years of reduced fassad

Mowing the grass now and then is the only real option

 

[PakCan]

Unfortunately foot soldiers will pay the ultimate price again for the greed of the generals. If this goes ahead I am afraid it will further weaken our forces. Absolutely 0 public support nationwide, economy in shambles and corrupt in charge.

Asim Muni and his lankies are putting the final nail in their own coffin.

 

[hussain0216]

Unfortunately foot soldiers will pay the ultimate price again for the greed of the generals. If this goes ahead I am afraid it will further weaken our forces. Absolutely 0 public support nationwide, economy in shambles and corrupt in charge.

Asim Muni and his lankies are putting the final nail in their own coffin.

You can't really do anything about it except target the enemy

Doing nothing is not a option

 

[SecularNationalist]

Operation Azm e Dha

 

[FuturePAF]

Yeahhhh that wheat thing was a special kind of dumb

Can you explain what happened with the wheat thing? (Just a small tangent, not trying to go off topic)

To bring it back to the topic, if there is a wheat surplus can’t families in western regions be paid in wheat to give up illegal activities as a transitional program and be brought back into the mainstream through job training and investment for industries in their regions?

 

[FuturePAF]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1804908759761990098

Hope the solidify the border fencing with bunkers and pillboxes and fire-bases for the expected response, before they do these cross border raids. They should also be very careful to minimize civilian casualties, prevent blood fueds with people not involved in the fighting.

 

[PakCan]

You can't really do anything about it except target the enemy

Doing nothing is not a option

Yes you can. The country with the largest military budget and the most advance weapons ended up sitting at the table.

You start by respecting your own country’s constitution first before waging war on anyone. The corrupt Bajwa for his own extension removed Pakistan from a favourable position when it was time for Pakistan to be at the table.

Decisions are not being made for the future of the country, they are being made by small men who are thinking about their on future.
This has disaster written all over it

 

[PakCan]

Can you explain what happened with the wheat thing? (Just a small tangent, not trying to go off topic)

To bring it back to the topic, if there is a wheat surplus can’t families in western regions be paid in wheat to give up illegal activities as a transitional program and be brought back into the mainstream through job training and investment for industries in their regions?

Who will make those payment? The government that is full of corrupt individuals?

Great ideas but you guys keep forgetting these decisions are made by a government that is elected and respected. You want the form 47 government to think about the people?