PAF Future Acquisition Plans

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[CSAW]

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[Khansaheeb]

The Chief of Air Staff of the Pakistan Air Force, Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Babar today at a ceremony at the Central Air Command AOR confirmed the Pakistan Air Force’s plans to procure the Shenyang J-31 multirole stealth fighter jet from China. The CAS said that “the foundation for acquiring the J-31 Stealth Fighter aircraft has already been laid which is all set to become part of the PAF's fleet in the near future”.
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Nearly all PAF SM sites are following this development.

Key question is will Pakistan collaborate with China on all aspects of requirements and technology including engine, airframe, avionics , ECW, armament, simulators, Software, sensors etc? Will there be TOT?

 

[arjunk]

We do not have to win any war, you are doing it yourself.

Btw if at all PAF is able to acquire 2 squadrons of J-31's, the IAF will run to the US for priority G2G deal for similar number of F-35's.
The only thing that is to be seen is when will PAF acquire them, PAF has always inducted the newer generation fighters in asia, so may be the 5 gen J-31 will be the first 5 gen fighter of south asia.

IAF is not getting F-35 unless India gives up its relationship with Russia and becomes subservient to America.

And if you think America will save India from China+Russia+Pakistan, look at Ukraine and reconsider.

 

[vikNerv]

IAF is not getting F-35 unless India gives up its relationship with Russia and becomes subservient to America.

And if you think America will save India from China+Russia+Pakistan, look at Ukraine and reconsider.

So there is a China+Russia+Pak now? Or are you insinuating there will be one if India goes for f35?

 

[CSAW]

PAKISTAN AIR FORCE ANNOUNCES PLANS TO PROCURE J-31 STEALTH FIGHTERS QUWA​

On 03 January 2024, the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu, announced that the PAF will be acquiring the J-31/FC-31 stealth fighter.



In an official press release, the PAF stated, “The foundation for acquiring the J-31 stealth fighter aircraft has already been laid, which is all set to become part of the PAF’s fleet in the near future.”

The CAS announced the PAF’s plans to procure the Chinese next-generation fighter aircraft (NGFA) during a recent ceremony celebrating the inducting of several systems in the PAF fleet, such as the J-10CE Dragon multirole fighter, ex-Belgian C-130H Hercules airlifters, and other auxiliary aircraft.

Currently, the PAF has not revealed its timeline or other specific procurement details. However, the PAF’s announcement marks its first official direction for an NGFA since Project AZM, an in-house program aimed at developing an original NGFA for the PAF.

Project AZM’s in-house NGFA program has likely been shelved, thus prompting the PAF leadership to look towards preexisting overseas programs for solutions. In August 2023, the Turkish government indicated that Pakistan was engaging it to join the TF-X KAAN program.

It is unclear how the PAF’s announcement to induct the J-31 will impact its apparent interest in the Turkish KAAN.

Background: Shenyang J-31​

Developed by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC), the J-31 is a twin-engine stealth fighter originally built and promoted for export. Following the demonstrator’s maiden test flight in 2012, the J-31 underwent numerous design changes, resulting in a new prototype flying in 2016. This new version was also equipped with indigenous WS-13 turbofans, replacing the Klimov RD-93s in the first prototype.

AVIC marketed the J-31 as a multirole combat aircraft. Its use of angular shapes in the airframe, internal weapons bay, and certain materials showed a focus on stealth/low observability (LO) on radar. It offered an internal and external payload capacity of 2,000 kg and 6,000 kg, respectively, a top speed of Mach 1.8, and a combat radius of 1,200 km. It has a reported maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 25,000 kg.

In terms of subsystems, the J-31 would hose an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar, helmet-mounted display and sight (HMD/S) system, in-flight refueling (IFR) probe, integrated electronic counter-measures (ECM) suite, infrared search and track (IRST), and electro-optical targeting system (EOTS).



The J-31’s munitions suite will comprise of long-range air-to-air missiles (LRAAM) like the PL-15E and SD-10, the PL-10E high off-boresight (HOBS) AAM, FT-series precision-guided bombs (PGB), and, eventually, compact air-launched cruise missiles (ALCM) and loitering munitions.



AVIC marketed the J-31 as a versatile solution, one with credible stealth characteristics paired with useful weapons carrying capacity and reach. The stealth element aside, the size and capability of the J-31 still made it a viable solution for countries that could not access a Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, or F/A-18E/F-type medium-to-heavyweight fighter solution.

However, the J-31 program had an unclear future, especially since AVIC promoted it as a solely export solution. However, in 2018, the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) adopted the platform the basis of its next-generation carrier fighter, designated J-35. The first prototype of the J-35 broke cover in 2021 and exhibited additional design changes, especially in its front fuselage and canopy. The final production version of the J-35 is also expected to house new turbofan engines.



The PAF’s announcement confirms that China is still making the J-31 readily available for export, despite it being adopted by the PLAN as the J-35. However, while related, the J-35 and J-31 are different projects – the former is undergoing development, while the latter’s development is mostly complete. It is unclear to what extent, if at all, work from the J-35 will transfer over to the J-31, especially when the bulk of the J-35’s work is being done to meet the PLAN’s requirements.

Currently, Quwa believes that the ‘J-31’ is the same fighter AVIC revealed in 2016, not the revised J-35 SAC is now developing for the PLAN. In 2015, AVIC said that if it received an order, SAC could fly the production-ready model in 2019, reach initial operating capability by 2022, and meet full operating capability (FOC) by 2025.

Thus, with a backer, AVIC projected a 10-year runway for bringing the J-31 from demonstrator to a production-ready, serviceable fighter. If one assumes that PLAN is the primary backer of the project (i.e., both J-31 and J-35) since 2018, then the J-31 and J-35 should both be at FOC status by 2028. And, if the PAF is becoming a co-backer of the program, then the FOC date of 2028 should be more assured.

Why is Pakistan Procuring the J-31?​

On the surface, one could presume that the PAF found a feasible solution in the J-31 for its NGFA needs. It would not have access to a better fighter in terms of cost, availability, and capability in one package. Likewise, the J-31 is also free of regulatory pressure from the United States or Europe. Finally, thanks to the J-10CE and JF-17C programs, the PAF will already have an existing pool of compatible munitions.

However, there is more to the J-31 than its NGFA label and its stealth capabilities. For example, the J-31 would offer a greater payload and range than any of the PAF’s current fighters, therefore improving the PAF’s reach and strike capabilities. The latter would also draw on a built-in electro-optical system via the EOTS, giving the J-31 greater versatility in the ground attack mission than any PAF asset today.

The first question about the PAF’s intentions is the timing. While the PAF CAS stated that the J-31 will join the PAF fleet in the “near future,” the aircraft is still under development. Based on AVIC’s estimates about the time it would take to move the J-31 from demonstrator to production-ready fighter, Pakistan could receive its first batch of J-31s from 2028 to 2030…

 

[Zarvan]

Thank you Mr. ZARVAN for information.
What is difference between J-31 and J-35 ??
Do you think Pakistan is able to pay for J-31 jet fighters and will get any J-31 as early as 2026 ??

J-31 is the land version also the one which is meant for export and J-35 is the Naval version which China plans to induct itself. Just like F-35. All I know after following Armed Forces for years when our Air Chief makes such a big claim that means that thing is not far away. In all probability J-31 4th and 5th prototypes are also flying for some time which were not just revealed to public and will be inducted by Pakistan at best within two years. I would be shocked if it takes more than two.

As for money can we afford it or not. Dude if I tell you our official declared budget and weapons program we are working on, producing, procuring your mind will get blown and nothing will make sense to you. So, I have stopped thinking about that. We have bought 12 Frigates and Corvettes, 8 submarines, J-10 C, VT 4 Tanks, SH15 Artillery Gun several more weapon systems in last few years and we get no answer on the question where the hell is money coming from.​

 

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[Bigda_Jatt]

IAF is not getting F-35 unless India gives up its relationship with Russia and becomes subservient to America.

And if you think America will save India from China+Russia+Pakistan, look at Ukraine and reconsider.

I see you have attached too much importance to your country's status, trust me you are an expendable asset and will be the first casualty in any future war.

I don't want to explain how and when India will stand as an equal to China and Russia in the upcoming world war.

And as far as being subservient to Americans goes, have you ever seen Modi as a weak player? I haven't.

 

[hussain]

Generalized BS as usual I see - you’re like AMTRAK - start out nice and then your national ego kicks in and derails to total nonsense.

So Im guessing you have paperwork or something to prove your claims.

Nope, just voices in his head.

But seriously, why is this moron allowed to spew nonsense on every thread?

 

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[arjunk]

I see you have attached too much importance to your country's status, trust me you are an expendable asset and will be the first casualty in any future war.

YOU have attached too much importance to your country, which you are under the impression is more important than NATO members. For the west, India is the next Ukraine - nothing but a cash cow for defence companies profiting off cheap Indian blood, at best a distraction from Taiwan.

I don't want to explain how and when India will stand as an equal to China and Russia in the upcoming world war.

And as far as being subservient to Americans goes, have you ever seen Modi as a weak player? I haven't.

Indians see Modi as Hindu Hitler, but that impression is far from reality.

When the US demanded accountability for the deaths of its civilians at the hands of India, Modi's government immedieatley bowed into murgha and promised to help investigate. Now 10 Indians in America have been killed by unknown men in the last few weeks.

When China captured thousands of square miles of Indian held territory in Ladakh, Modi did not dare to even utter China's name.

When PAF executed swift retort, killing multiple Indian officers and giving traumatic brain injuries to many more, Modi did nothing.

 

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Beautiful airplane, j35 is a national key project, including a large amount of research work in the early stage. With more than ten years of development, "concentration is the essence"