PAF Future Acquisition Plans

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

As always, I turned out right.

 

[Zarvan]

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[Zarvan]

As always, I turned out right.

There are several major issues to consider. First, even if you expedite the process and manage to order the F-35 within six months, you likely won’t receive your first F-35 until after Trump’s tenure has ended. Are you prepared to take the risk with the incoming U.S. administration, which may have different policies or priorities?

Second, the deal would likely come with numerous strings attached, potentially limiting your operational flexibility. Third, the U.S. is unlikely to allow you to integrate your own weapons systems with the F-35. This level of permission is typically reserved for close allies like Israel, and it’s unlikely they would extend the same privileges to others.

Additionally, integrating the F-35 into your existing systems could pose significant challenges, particularly since its air refueling system differs from what you currently use. This would require substantial adjustments and investments.

I’m sure there are other complexities I haven’t even touched upon, but these points alone highlight the potential hurdles involved.

 

[Fatman17]

My estimate.
JF-17 Thunder all blocks upto 200.
J-10CE upto 40.
J-35A upto 40.
KAAN upto 40.

Subject to financial availability including loans.

 

[kmc_chacko]

My estimate.
JF-17 Thunder all blocks upto 200.
J-10CE upto 40.
J-35A upto 40.
KAAN upto 40.

Subject to financial availability including loans.

does your Establishment consider implication of having 2 types of 5th Gen fighters on Pakistan's economy or they just buy and say “Bhad mein jao sab”

 

[Fatman17]

does your Establishment consider implication of having 2 types of 5th Gen fighters on Pakistan's economy or they just buy and say “Bhad mein jao sab”

Correct

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

My estimate.
JF-17 Thunder all blocks upto 200.
J-10CE upto 40.
J-35A upto 40.
KAAN upto 40.

Subject to financial availability including loans.

In my view,

J10CE ...... Not sure, it could be 20 or 36 or 90. Depends on J35 induction timeline.

KAAN will be locally produced/assemble and in large numbers 90+. Consider it as successor of JF17-PFX and induction time will be 2035-2050.

 

[Zarvan]

J 35 and KAAN eventual numbers will be 100 if not more.

My estimate.
JF-17 Thunder all blocks upto 200.
J-10CE upto 40.
J-35A upto 40.
KAAN upto 40.

Subject to financial availability including loans.

 

[Ak01]

does your Establishment consider implication of having 2 types of 5th Gen fighters on Pakistan's economy or they just buy and say “Bhad mein jao sab”

i wonder why you all seem to think having a second FGFA will use up hundreds of billions of dollars... They're maintenance intensive, not financially crippling...

 

[Zarvan]

J 35 and KAAN eventual numbers will be 100 if not more

My estimate.
JF-17 Thunder all blocks upto 200.
J-10CE upto 40.
J-35A upto 40.
KAAN upto 40.

Subject to financial availability including loans.

 

[Zarvan]

does your Establishment consider implication of having 2 types of 5th Gen fighters on Pakistan's economy or they just buy and say “Bhad mein jao sab”

Maintaining two stealth fighter jets is not that big of a deal or an issue. India exaggerates it to cover their own incompetent Government machinery. We suck in all other sectors but here we are doing good.

 

[SABRE]

Good news for India.

Before PAF ordered J-31, US would have never given India F-35 citing it will impact regional balance of power.

Now with Pakistan getting J-31, US will cite the same excuse i.e to "maintain regional balance of power" to offer India F-35.

Guess US knew well in advance PAF was going for J-31, which is why it sent F-35A to Aero India 2023.

They have been willing to sell F-35 to India for quite sometime now. Pakistan's acquisition of J-35 has nothing to do with this. In fact, one can argue that Pakistan's acquisition is based on the assumption that India could acquire F-35. However, India was, and possibly still is, reluctant to acquire the aircraft. Its a resource draining asset that is completely dependent on the US logistical and maintenance support. The aircraft is a bane for few of its users, including South Korea.

 

[Jack I love dik]

does your Establishment consider implication of having 2 types of 5th Gen fighters on Pakistan's economy or they just buy and say “Bhad mein jao sab”

KAAN is 5th gen? Nice joke.

 

[PakAl]

KAAN is 5th gen? Nice joke.

KAAN is still in development, the final plane with a powerful engine will be 5th generation plane. And why would Turkey build another 4th generation plane when they operate f16s and will soon upgrade them to 4.5th generation.

 

[PakAl]

My estimate.
JF-17 Thunder all blocks upto 200.
J-10CE upto 40.
J-35A upto 40.
KAAN upto 40.

Subject to financial availability including loans.

Jf17 200 is good number.
J10CE needs to be atleast 90 number.
J35A will be upgrade on J10CEs. Need atleast 60 planes.
F16s will be replaced after 2035s and KAAN is perfect for it. 80 planes. It will be PakSpec KAAN.