PAF Very Own A2A Missiles [WVR, BVR & ALCM Stand off] News, Updates & Discussions

[Oscar]

well.Pakistan is no position to give a nuclear deterrence commitment to turkey.they have nato for that.and what technology chinese have given to Pakistan which can share to turkey??Pakistan can't even manufacture a original pistol design.

Your content and knowledge is exactly to your namesake

 

[TopGun786]

well.Pakistan is no position to give a nuclear deterrence commitment to turkey.they have nato for that.and what technology chinese have given to Pakistan which can share to turkey??Pakistan can't even manufacture a original pistol design.

There is no need to act as original "Admiral General Aladin".

 

[CSAW]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765434996238471478

JF-17 Thunder Block-III [test bed] at the CAC weapon testing facility, used as a test bed for the integration of new weapon systems on Block-III.

However the "Munition/missile" marked in the picture seems neither PL-10 [WVRAAM] nor PL-15 [BVRAAM]

 

[GriffinsRule]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1765434996238471478

JF-17 Thunder Block-III [test bed] at the CAC weapon testing facility, used as a test bed for the integration of new weapon systems on Block-III.

However the "Munition/missile" marked in the picture seems neither PL-10 [WVRAAM] nor PL-15 [BVRAAM]

That is just a hardpoint rail. Nothing is actually loaded on the aircraft.

 

[Admiral General Aladin]

Ha ha ha....

Do you want to dictate terms on the Turkish and Pak Deep States?? When it gets existential they don't give a damn even to the likes of Kissinger, who really own the West and the East! Did Turkey stop at liberating the Turkish Cyprus, or Pak making the BOMB?

By the by, you can readily get a pistol designed by others (Turkey, China etc.), but not a miniaturized thermonuclear warhead for your MIRV missiles to strike terror into the heart of your nemesis....

Well.a phone call from Pentagon junior Clark can dictate terms on the pak deep establishment,not sure about turkish sides.

 

[CSAW]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1774057259561361794

On 15 February, the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu, met with the Deputy Chief of General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces, General İrfan Özsert, at Air Headquarters (AHQ) in Islamabad.

According to an official PAF press release, the two leaders focused on “mutual training initiatives and endeavours of technology collaboration” between the armed forces of Pakistan and Turkiye.



The two leaders “agreed to elevate the existing partnership through Joint Working Groups focused on technology enhancement and core capability exchanges.” They also discussed undertaking an “Air-to-Air Missile technology exchange program to accrue maximum benefits for both Air Forces.”

It is currently unclear what this air-to-air missile (AAM) “technology exchange” program would entail.



For example, the PAF could be interested in leveraging Turkish expertise in supporting the domestic AAM program, i.e., the FAAZ by the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM).

Alternatively, the PAF could be looking at pursuing an alternative AAM program in collaboration with Turkiye, potentially at the National Aerospace Science and Technology Park (NASTP).

Overall, it should be noted that the current PAF leadership is focused on expanding NASTP activities, especially through joint-ventures and partnerships with foreign defence vendors. The PAF’s ongoing engagement with Baykar Group, for example, is resulting in the development of new munitions, such as loitering munitions and miniature air-launched cruise missiles (ALCM), at NASTP.

Policy of Indigenizing Munitions​

This announcement makes one aspect of the PAF’s development priorities certain – i.e., it is pursuing the indigenous production of key munitions. Thus far, the bulk of this activity involved the production of air-to-surface munitions, such as the Ra’ad/Taimur-series of ALCMs, the Takbir/Indigenous Range Extension Kit (IREK) precision-guided bomb (PGB) kit, and others.

However, the future product roadmap disclosed by Global Industrial and Defence Solutions (GIDS) features an in-house AAM program by the designation of “FAAZ.” Thus, it appears that at some point, the PAF identified the domestic production of AAMs a priority.

That said, the PAF is not the only Tri-Services arm aiming to indigenize munitions production; rather, this policy also seems to be a priority for the Pakistan Army (PA) and the Pakistan Navy (PN). Just like many other countries, Pakistan likely recognized the operational challenges Ukraine was facing due to its weaker munitions supply channels Thus, each of the Pakistani military’s Tri-Services tabled the production of munitions – especially guided weapons – as a goal.

For the PAF, however, the question is whether it wants to rely on solely the NESCOM FAAZ program or complement it with a NASTP initiative. This call to Turkiye for AAM collaboration is likely a push to give NASTP an AAM project, either through original designs or, potentially, co-produce the TÜBİTAK-SAGE Bozdoğan within-visual-range (WVR) AAM and Gökdoğan beyond-visual-range (BVR) AAM in Pakistan. With NASTP, either scenario is plausible as, thus far, the entity has undertaken both original projects (e.g., KaGeM V3) and co-production (e.g., Bayraktar TB2) with foreign partners.

Correcting Missed Opportunities​

In 2016, an earlier piece from Quwa had projected that Pakistan would eventually require a domestic AAM program. In fact, the fundamental technology for AAMs – such as rocket motors – could also be re-leveraged to develop surface-to-air missiles (SAM), which each of the Tri-Services are now buying at scale, but through costly imports from China and Europe…

Pakistan Calls for Joint AAM Development with Turkiye

The senior leaderships of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and Turkish Armed Forces tabled a discussion about jointly pursuing air-to-air missile (AAM) technology.

quwa.org

 

[CSAW]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1774957191537304000

 

[FuturePAF]

Chinese equivalent to the MICA-RF? A possible export/ToT option for the PAF by way of Chinese industry? Not a bad time to offer a replacement for the SD-10 at a time when Pakistan is working on/considering joint ventures with other partners and its own missiles?



Source: The Millennium 7 YouTube channel

 

[Bilal]

Chinese equivalent to the MICA-RF? A possible export/ToT option for the PAF by way of Chinese industry? Not a bad time to offer a replacement for the SD-10 at a time when Pakistan is working on/considering joint ventures with other partners and its own missiles?

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Source: The Millennium 7 YouTube channel

Seems like PL10 RF. Please link the video.

 

[FuturePAF]

Seems like PL10 RF. Please link the video.

There wasn’t a video just an image. But it looks like a display from an arms expo.

 

[Deino]

There wasn’t a video just an image. But it looks like a display from an arms expo.

Here another one of this missile

 

[FuturePAF]

Here another one of this missile

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Any information on the performance of this missile?

 

[arslank01]

Any information on the performance of this missile?

likely just similar/same as pl10

 

[Bilal]

Here another one of this missile

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Thank you. I asked for the video to get a better look at the PGM next to it.

Looks like a jet powered glide bomb like PJDAM. Very interesting.

 

[CSAW]

“Air-to-Air Missile technology exchange program

On 15 February, the Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Zaheer Ahmed Baber Sidhu, met with the Deputy Chief of General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces, General İrfan Özsert, at Air Headquarters (AHQ) in Islamabad.



According to an official PAF press release, the two leaders focused on “mutual training initiatives and endeavours of technology collaboration” between the armed forces of Pakistan and Turkiye.



The two leaders “agreed to elevate the existing partnership through Joint Working Groups focused on technology enhancement and core capability exchanges.” They also discussed undertaking an “Air-to-Air Missile technology exchange program to accrue maximum benefits for both Air Forces.”

It is currently unclear what this air-to-air missile (AAM) “technology exchange” program would entail.

For example, the PAF could be interested in leveraging Turkish expertise in supporting the domestic AAM program, i.e., the FAAZ by the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM).





Alternatively, the PAF could be looking at pursuing an alternative AAM program in collaboration with Turkiye, potentially at the National Aerospace Science and Technology Park (NASTP).

Overall, it should be noted that the current PAF leadership is focused on expanding NASTP activities, especially through joint-ventures and partnerships with foreign defence vendors. The PAF’s ongoing engagement with Baykar Group, for example, is resulting in the development of new munitions, such as loitering munitions and miniature air-launched cruise missiles (ALCM), at NASTP.

Pakistan Calls for Joint AAM Development with Turkiye

The senior leaderships of the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and Turkish Armed Forces tabled a discussion about jointly pursuing air-to-air missile (AAM) technology.

quwa.org