Pakistan Rocket Force Command News and Discussions

[Yasser76]

Don't know either of you,,,,, but as one of the "everyone reading" , I'm pretty sure it was you guys that started the name calling and not Aero Tech. Infact I don't recall you disagreeing with anything, rather you just started the name calling straight up. And that has been a pattern for some time.

You know, I was thinking you may be right, after 7 years on here and over 900 posts. I then went through all your posts and realised all were exclusively negative about Pakistan and her forces, of course nothing wrong with that, but then you choose to pipe up now when we have many Fake IDs on here, despite you being a very limited contributor over the last 7 years. Rather then seek a solution, you, like Metal and Aerotech, all seem to have piped up at the same time to attack me. Now this may well be cynicsm and paranoia on my behalf, but feel it best left to others to judge.

It interesting though how two very new accounts (Areotech and Metal) and you (very few posts fore 7 years) all pop up at the same time to attack me.

 

[r3alist]

Push comes to shove those actors will never provide military support.

Their prior inputs will mean they don't have to....

Probably happened in the last skirmish

 

[Oscar]

Their prior inputs will mean they don't have to....

Probably happened in the last skirmish

Given desperation enough you cannot predict actions of irrational actors like current Indian leaders

 

[Ak01]

my optimism rests on the induction of new talents ( I know few of them ) ...they are bright and motivated

motivation starts to wear thin in the toxic environments rife in our orgs

 

[mythbuster]

Irr

Given desperation enough you cannot predict actions of irrational actors like current Indian leaders

Irrational actors are always the ones who blink first .

 

[A1Kaid]

The new Pak RFC will be modeled after China’s and will be integrated and unified with China’s to have full coverage of Asia.

 

[Abid123]

Indian Airstrips within range of Pakistan Army Artillery and Newly Established Rocket Force Command

Only includes fatah series!

 

[Dreamer]

You know, I was thinking you may be right, after 7 years on here and over 900 posts. I then went through all your posts and realised all were exclusively negative about Pakistan and her forces, of course nothing wrong with that, but then you choose to pipe up now when we have many Fake IDs on here, despite you being a very limited contributor over the last 7 years. Rather then seek a solution, you, like Metal and Aerotech, all seem to have piped up at the same time to attack me. Now this may well be cynicsm and paranoia on my behalf, but feel it best left to others to judge.

It interesting though how two very new accounts (Areotech and Metal) and you (very few posts fore 7 years) all pop up at the same time to attack me.

See? that's what i was talking about. I criticize you just a tiny bit and you start with name calling to the point of calling me negative about my own country! And it's not even true! FYI my posts are not negative about Pakistan or the Army , that's just something you made up to suit your point of view. Also I didn't attack you, merely observed a fact.

Let me tell you that I love both Pakistan and Pakistan Army lot more than you do but as a citizen I have every right to criticize aspects of policy I feel are not correct. That's what GOOD citizens do, not the bad ones. And for that I don't need your permission or approval.

If you can't take criticism of your behaviour positively that's your own problem. Anyway, I am not replying further on this issue, so enjoy!

 

[Abid123]

The new Pak RFC will be modeled after China’s and will be integrated and unified with China’s to have full coverage of Asia.

Really? Any source? Sounds too good to be true.

 

[flyingorca]

As if our air defence is really strong.

Air defense is all about money and access to big market.

 

[Metal 0-1]

Indian Airstrips within range of Pakistan Army Artillery and Newly Established Rocket Force Command

Only includes fatah series!
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That's all well and good. But here's a little problem; "Strategic Depth" which they have plenty of. They can simply move their assets back.

 

[Metal 0-1]

You know, I was thinking you may be right, after 7 years on here and over 900 posts. I then went through all your posts and realised all were exclusively negative about Pakistan and her forces, of course nothing wrong with that, but then you choose to pipe up now when we have many Fake IDs on here, despite you being a very limited contributor over the last 7 years. Rather then seek a solution, you, like Metal and Aerotech, all seem to have piped up at the same time to attack me. Now this may well be cynicsm and paranoia on my behalf, but feel it best left to others to judge.

It interesting though how two very new accounts (Areotech and Metal) and you (very few posts fore 7 years) all pop up at the same time to attack me.

It's all One Big Conspiracy against a Single guy on the internet Sponsored by Blackrock

 

[ThoroughPro]

That's all well and good. But here's a little problem; "Strategic Depth" which they have plenty of. They can simply move their assets back.

long range missiles and rockets negate that a certain level.

 

[HAIDER]

Don t understand why need it , when Musharraf already form strategic command and control a separate wing for missile operation unit and nuclear strike force wing.

 

[Michael]

Pakistan's strategy with this rocket force seems to be conventional deterrence backed up by a veil of secrecy on the numbers. Some theatre.

I personally disagree on this point.
But, if we are to discuss this issue, further official information is needed. Otherwise, this debate is meaningless.

We have no industrial base that can make these systems at any half decent rate. I'd forgive the quality of the R&D if we had numbers - quantity has a quality of its own afterall. But sadly we don't have the industrial base.

If you ask anyone in Pakistan about the level of our industrialization they'll tell you exactly how bad it is. But as soon as you say SPD they suddenly start expecting miracles of secret industries. It's all the same. SPD is in Pakistan and has access to the same industrial capacity and talent as most of the rest of the country. There are no secret underground factories churning out hundreds of baburs (fatah4 excuse me) every year lol.

Some Pakistani friends and I often argue about the issue of "Independent defense industry." This stems from the fact that our two cultures have completely different definitions of "Independent defense industry."

As I've said before, neither India nor Pakistan can completely and 100% independently produce a single, qualified bullet for a modern assault rifle. This is based on China's understanding of "Independent defense industry," not Pakistan's standards. This is not meant to disparage India and Pakistan. In fact, 99% of countries worldwide cannot achieve this. ------ If you break down the industrial capacity required to produce a bullet, you'll find a lot of secrets.
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In the 1950s, after the Korean War, China began developing strategic weapons. At the time, a large number of soldiers returning from the Korean War were sent directly to northwest China. Simultaneously, the Chinese government recruited scientists and technicians nationwide. This formed the Second Artillery Corps, the predecessor of the PLARF.

According to statistics, millions of soldiers and technicians were directly involved in these projects, and over 10 million were indirectly involved. However, the PLARF now has only a little over 100,000 personnel.

After investing enormous resources in developing these strategic military projects, the Chinese government has continuously translated these achievements into civilian applications. These transformations have played a significant role in China's large, state-owned enterprises, renowned universities, and renowned infrastructure projects.

It's no exaggeration to say that any of China's major achievements today can be attributed to these individuals.