Pakistan shifts from stabilisation to export-led growth, says finance minister

[VCheng]

Clearly many here are unhappy with what we have made of ourselves.

Again, such claims of unhappiness are not borne out by real life actions. How many people wish to be "back home" enjoying the "luxuries" that it offers the privileged, for example?

It may not be popular to say that we are who we actually want to be, and not what we proclaim ourselves to be, but it remains the blunt truth.

 

[Blain2]

When you are usurper, a retired general, a DGISI who was removed from post due to incompetency, managed to grab office of COAS by wheeling and dealing with Nora family, by default he is insecure like all usurpers are. This is basic human nature that most Muneer and generali touts do not understand. And this insecurity drives self preservation efforts, things like extension and so called life time immunity.

Yes constitutionally, the one who represent the will of the people via elections "have got all the solutions". Wheather its IK or a lamppost. Ofcourse, you as a citizens of Pakistan have right to criticise the policies and if you believe the incumbent is not up to your satisfaction, you will have your chance to kick that person out of the office in next election. The 22 graders within the walls of GHQ, they have zero say in this matter, their job is to wage war against the enemies of Pakistan, mostly external, as directed by the civilian overlords and also, as per Jinnah's clear instructions. If you believe otherwise, and I am being generous here, you have got "unconstitutional mindset", unfortunately most Muneer's touts do.

Now coming to your point about violence. In my opinion, we have already crossed that rubicon when citizens were mowed down in the capital when they were exercising their right to protest against the current Muneer's fascist regime. Anything more, we are into an open civil war. As to gloves off, well I got news for you, when these idiots tried it last time, we end up losing half of our country. Ring any bells? Kudos to IK, he is still calling them "my country and my army" shielding them as an intuition, which he should, but hey, retardness have no cure it seems. And here lies the danger. God forbid, if this snowballs into something nasty, things can be easily hijacked by actual enemies of Pakistan. The day you start using violence against the citizens of the country, to hold on to your power structure, you have already lost the plot.

Asim Muneer is a unsecure little fairy. He will sing, dance and weep like a fairy if put in similar conditions like IK, for mere 24 hours, alongside his other henchmen within GHQ. All usurpers are unsecure little rats. He is no exception. If he manage to survive which I dont think he will, and comes out alive out of his uniform, mark my words, just like his predecessors, will take the first flight out of Pakistan.

Last two paras are mere personality worship clut like response, I am not interested in that.

I respect your opinion but I disagree because like most PTI supporters, it lacks nuance and this has been hurting PTI/IK yet they persist, so carry on.

You start with a baseless statement "When you are usurper, a retired general, a DGISI who was removed from post due to incompetency."

None of the above is true. You know he was not a "retired officer". His notification had a gap of one day (due to administrative issues). He was removed from his ISI job not because of incompetency (which is a sheer lie) but because he started bringing up inconvenient truths about IK's circle. This caused friction between IK and Bajwa because the latter also did not agree yet relented to the PM's request to have the DG-ISI removed. A clear case of moral corruption in IK's circle and person. Also, Asim Munir did not "usurp" anything. He was appointed CoAS through the standard process undertaken.

Another one: "Now coming to your point about violence. In my opinion, we have already crossed that rubicon when citizens were mowed down in the capital when they were exercising their right to protest against the current Muneer's fascist regime."

Please tell us how many "citizens were mowed down" and offer up their names. This nonsense has been debunked countless times yet the PTI lies continue unabated. Were a hundred ppl mowed down?, a thousand? What mass massacres have taken place? Please tell us instead of repeating these lies.

The rest of your post unfortunately is the usual PTI attacks on the person of Asim Munir, belittling him and repeating the same old to make it look like it is the only truth when it is far from it.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

PTC calls for ‘Export Emergency’ to arrest textile export decline

The Pakistan Textile Council (PTC) has urged Shehbaz Sharif to declare an “Export Emergency,” warning that Pakistan’s textile exporters are nearing collapse due to falling competitiveness, high costs, tax distortions, and uncompetitive energy pricing.

textalks.com

The Pakistan Textile Council (PTC) has urged Shehbaz Sharif to declare an “Export Emergency,” warning that Pakistan’s textile exporters are nearing collapse due to falling competitiveness, high costs, tax distortions, and uncompetitive energy pricing.

That's just PTC'S monthly moan.

 

[Taimoor]

I respect your opinion but I disagree because like most PTI supporters, it lacks nuance and this has been hurting PTI/IK yet they persist, so carry on.

You start with a baseless statement "When you are usurper, a retired general, a DGISI who was removed from post due to incompetency."

None of the above is true. You know he was not a "retired officer". His notification had a gap of one day (due to administrative issues). He was removed from his ISI job not because of incompetency (which is a sheer lie) but because he started bringing up inconvenient truths about IK's circle. This caused friction between IK and Bajwa because the latter also did not agree yet relented to the PM's request to have the DG-ISI removed. A clear case of moral corruption in IK's circle and person. Also, Asim Munir did not "usurp" anything. He was appointed CoAS through the standard process undertaken.

Another one: "Now coming to your point about violence. In my opinion, we have already crossed that rubicon when citizens were mowed down in the capital when they were exercising their right to protest against the current Muneer's fascist regime."

Please tell us how many "citizens were mowed down" and offer up their names. This nonsense has been debunked countless times yet the PTI lies continue unabated. Were a hundred ppl mowed down?, a thousand? What mass massacres have taken place? Please tell us instead of repeating these lies.

The rest of your post unfortunately is the usual PTI attacks on the person of Asim Munir, belittling him and repeating the same old to make it look like it is the only truth when it is far from it.

Really? he was meant to retire 22nd nov 2022 yet made army cheif 48 hours after that! you cant justify even if you are loyal Muneer supporter. Thats the most blatant exhibition of "London plan". As for being removed as DGISI, thats all non sense that Asim Muneer was trying to be a "phaney khan" and "unearthing" corruption of a sitting PM inner circle. If that was the case, and I need you to pay attention here, why on earth Asim Muneer was desperately trying to engage PTI minister to have audience with IK to clear his name? He should have stood his ground, after all he unearthed the corruption!! Dose it even make sense that you try to poke your nose in your boss (a sitting PM) so called interal affairs, and when axe fell on your head due to your audacity, you will run back to your boss, basically saying "SAAR galti hogaey, main naheen tha". This is BS story, the real reason he was removed, being a mentally unstable person he is, as mentioned by IK, he caused a diplomatic blunder with Iran. Thats about it.

Come no now, you can do better then this. Denying Islamabad massacre are you?


And yes ofcourse, its Asim Muneer and his few henchmen within the walls of GHQ who are the enemy of PTI/IK. Not the army as institution. And I am glad IK has made this distinction clear to everyone. What is rather unfortunate, the worshipping of one man which is Asim Muneer against the big and considerable chunk of Pakistani population who support IK and their will. Is one person that important who is not even have any representation and backing within the masses? Its nothing but a unfortunately mental slavery towards uniform and boots. When we as a nation come to realise that these lot are just tool of the state, nothing more, Pakistan will be a much better place to live, not a security state and hired gun that it has been turned into by design.

You know what enrages the masses? its the audacity shown by Asim Muneer and his gang , by disrespecting citizens will and their collective wisdom. Rather bowing down and submitting to the will of the citizens, he and his goons have doubled down on their evil ways. Things have gone way past IK, its very personal now, down to each and every individual who exercised his/her legal right to vote. if you people are still clueless, I can only pray for your sanity.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

The entire goddamned setup/mindset/people are the same. The only chagrin that many around here have is that Imran Khan is not calling the shots but someone else is. What *#@%$!g difference has/would it made/make?

If it is as simple as you are trying to make it look, why we are not hitting 6% on consecutive years despite having "Tajurba-Kar" rulers? Did you check loan figures of last 3 years alone? I can tell certainly not! Have you noticed how many MNCs have left the country in just 2 years? Have you notice that people are so fed up and leaving country in such numbers that FIA has to empoy to off-load them from planes? "DANDA" and "Investor Confidence" are mutually exclusive concepts!
Get your head out of sand. We have heard and read this "exort led" mantra from many former FMs as well particularly from Shukat Aziz when he created an artifical bubble of 8.3% GDP growth in 2003-04. Rest is history.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

None of the above is true. You know he was not a "retired officer". His notification had a gap of one day (due to administrative issues). He was removed from his ISI job not because of incompetency (which is a sheer lie) but because he started bringing up inconvenient truths about IK's circle. This caused friction between IK and Bajwa because the latter also did not agree yet relented to the PM's request to have the DG-ISI removed. A clear case of moral corruption in IK's circle and person. Also, Asim Munir did not "usurp" anything. He was appointed CoAS through the standard process undertaken.

OK. Answer this simple question.
How many cases against IK made based on these so-called "inconvenient truths" on IK and in how many his convictions were held by court of laws?
If FM has such fantastic proofs aginast IK's corruption, why he had to adapt such henious methods and stoop so low to make cases like Iddat on IK and his wife (A shamelss act no one hasn't committed in last 14 centuries).

 

[Blain2]

If it is as simple as you are trying to make it look, why we are not hitting 6% on consecutive years despite having "Tajurba-Kar" rulers? Did you check loan figures of last 3 years alone? I can tell certainly not! Have you noticed how many MNCs have left the country in just 2 years? Have you notice that people are so fed up and leaving country in such numbers that FIA has to empoy to off-load them from planes? "DANDA" and "Investor Confidence" are mutually exclusive concepts!
Get your head out of sand. We have heard and read this "exort led" mantra from many former FMs as well particularly from Shukat Aziz when he created an artifical bubble of 8.3% GDP growth in 2003-04. Rest is history.

Same people, different tenures. IK and his team were doing no wonders. The issues are for all to see (I posted a link from the GoP source that clearly highlights the challenges faced by Pakistan, they are hiding nothing and none of what you state is a new problem) and they have not been addressed with continuity thus this issue. Every elected government comes in and starts over. A hybrid system has the promise of offering more continuity to policies implemented.

From the horse's mouth: https://uraanpakistan.pk/exports/

 

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"The State Bank of Pakistan made its third-highest monthly purchase of U.S. dollars from the market in September, buying more than $1 billion as cumulative purchases since reporting resumed in June 2024 approach $10 billion."

 

[Blain2]

OK. Answer this simple question.
How many cases against IK made based on these so-called "inconvenient truths" on IK and in how many his convictions were held by court of laws?
If FM has such fantastic proofs aginast IK's corruption, why he had to adapt such henious methods and stoop so low to make cases like Iddat on IK and his wife (A shamelss act no one hasn't committed in last 14 centuries).

I think there is some confusion amongst the PTI base here. I don't think I have passed a moral judgment on the right or wrong of the current landscape. I am highlighting the pragmatic realities of the situation on the ground. The same imperfect pragmatism that bedevils other democracies and autocracies around the world and suggesting that a hybrid system can deliver in Pakistan without Khan's version of democracy/"same page" hybrid system.

As such, I am not supporting any actions that are illegal including frivolous cases against his wife, other members of the party that are caught in the crossfire. Unfortunately, that is what happens in Pakistan to muzzle opposition and at this time IK/PTI are on the receiving end of it. The ruling system keeps you busy with cases and courts so you cannot agitate and that is the goal of the hybrid system so they can implement their policies. We have seen this round-robin circus happen for the past 5 decades.

You ask Sharifs and Zaradaris, and they claim the same, "all charges are frivolous and these cases won't stand the scrutiny of the court". Everybody in Pakistan is innocent of the charges brought against them since there is no corruption done by anyone. IK is an angel and his family and acquaintances are angels and the same goes for Sharif and Bhutto/Zardari clans if you ask their base.

The point that I was making and you bolded was about IK suppressing inconvenient truths about corruption amongst his family/acquaintances by having the DG-ISI booted from his job for raising those. That speaks of moral turpitude (Maybe the others are worse but at the least admit that in this talab may, saray he ganday hain. You think someone unfairly booted from their job, for what they believed was corruption (and DG-ISI is usually someone who is in the know), will not hold a personal grudge? The other member was falsely claiming AM was removed for "incompetence"! Who are we kidding here? Removed for incompetence by, of all people, Buzdar's boss?

 

[PakFactor]

But most of India is still ruled by feudals.

Feudal lords do not rule it; while some structures exist, like in Bihar, and villages, etc., it's not dominant across India and doesn't have a wide-ranging influence as it does in Pakistan. Neither do they dominate in national or provincial politics in India as the feudal lords do in Pakistan.

Pakistan’s Landed Elite: Choking Progress With Unchecked Power And Privilege

Feudal elites dominate Pakistan’s land, politics, and justice, stalling progress. Reform is vital to break their grip and build a just, modern, and equal

thefridaytimes.com

At the national level, feudalism dominates, averaging 80% of seats in Pakistan, while in India it's 10-12%.

Of the landed gentry in Pakistan, 5% control almost two-thirds of agricultural land.

So you think these people would pass laws that would harm them? Or in any way, shape, or form implement policies that would bring about a sustainable change to Pakistan's economy structurally? No, definitely not.

We should also not forget the socio-economic policies India implemented under the Manmohan Singh government, which led to a shift of people from rural to urban communities and to access to education through a quota-based system. After Nehru gutted the Indian Landed Gentry, Manmohan Singh's policies further depressed the representation of Feudal Lords in India.

Hope is a good thing to have, but it comes to Pakistan to die.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

You ask Sharifs and Zaradaris, and they claim the same, "all charges are frivolous and these cases won't stand the scrutiny of the court". Everybody in Pakistan is innocent of the charges brought against them since there is no corruption done by anyone. IK is an angel and his family and acquaintances are angels and the same goes for Sharif and Bhutto/Zardari clans if you ask their base.

The point that I was making and you bolded was about IK suppressing inconvenient truths about corruption amongst his family/acquaintances by having the DG-ISI booted from his job for raising those. That speaks of moral turpitude (Maybe the others are worse but at the least admit that in this talab may, saray he ganday hain. You think someone unfairly booted from their job, for what they believed was corruption (and DG-ISI is usually someone who is in the know), will not hold a personal grudge? The other member was falsely claiming AM was removed for "incompetence"! Who are we kidding here? Removed for incompetence by, of all people, Buzdar's boss?

Quote me a single example where Sharifs had to face and sort of trials or jails ever since this Tabbar was given power by Usurpers like Zia? There was a case on Nawaz Sharif where he got death sentence for hijacking Mush's plane and guess what magically Nawaz landed in Saroor palace in KSA. Then he caught red handed and couldn't provide satisfactory answer about his London properties along with her daughter. Till date no money trail. He was sentenced and guess who came to his "help", our beloved Idara. He was found in London and when he return he created history by summoning court to the airport so that he can secure bail before getting out of airport lounge. YEs, Zardari faced trial and jail. Bhutto and IK are very different cases. Both were punished for being more popular than Khakis in this country. Something our timid minded Generals can't simply accept. No IK is no angle. He made blunders but not due to bad intent but by trusting wrong people like Bajwa, Buzdar, and many others. But to date, our mighty establishment and all knowing then DG ISI and current FM have failed to pin any financial corruption on IK.

For love of God, please let us know what those "inconvenient truths" which you keep refering. AM was removed by his boss not by boss of Buzdar due to reasons from Faiz's demands to Iran to Sahiwal incident mess. And yes, it is true he was appointed after retirement. For him, Sharifs asked Bajwa to resend the list of candidates, he wasn't included in the first original list.

All of this is up for debate and you don't have to accept anything but please don't push blatent lies down our throat on the name of patriotism or pragmatic realities. Since Nov 2022, AM and this hybrid++ system is running the country but unfortunately on economic front they have yet to meet what PTI was able to do in 2 consecutive years despite COVID. Economic Survey of Pakistan 2021-22 has signature of PM Shahbaz Sharif on it. 5.9% was GDP growth that year, compare it to what has been going on since last 3 years.

 

[PakShaheen_79]

But most of India is still ruled by feudals.

Nopes. Aggressive land reforms right after indepdendence by then Indian government made sure society and country wouldn't become hostage of feduals like it happened in Pakistan.

 

[Meengla]

He was removed from his ISI job not because of incompetency (which is a sheer lie) but because he started bringing up inconvenient truths about IK's circle. This caused friction between IK and Bajwa because the latter also did not agree yet relented to the PM's request to have the DG-ISI removed. A clear case of moral corruption in IK's circle and person.

Rumors of a rift between the PM and the military had started appearing in late 2021 on Dawn.com and most political analysts in Pakistan concur Imran was unhappy with the then ISI Chief General Asim Munir bringing up Imran's wife's corruption. Imran was very angry and told General Munir to leave his family alone and then removed the ISI Chief, who was the second most powerful person in Pakistan, right behind the Army Chief, which demonstrates Imran did have considerable powers as the PM of Pakistan.

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

most political analysts in Pakistan concur Imran was unhappy with the then ISI Chief General Asim Munir bringing up Imran's wife's corruption. Imran was very angry and told General Munir to leave his family alone and then removed the ISI Chief

Pak Army Commander Lt Gen Asim Munir demands Rs 90 crore extortion from Master Tiles

News Intervention is a digital media platform that gives a global perspective to news. We are the Voice of Unheard. We Favour No One and Fear None.

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He was a bathakhor gangster even before becoming ISI or Army chief
Stop putting him on a pedestal

 

[Meengla]

Pak Army Commander Lt Gen Asim Munir demands Rs 90 crore extortion from Master Tiles

News Intervention is a digital media platform that gives a global perspective to news. We are the Voice of Unheard. We Favour No One and Fear None.

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He was a bathakhor gangster even before becoming ISI or Army chief
Stop putting him on a pedestal

By now, everyone knows how lying, deceiving, cunning the Riyasat e Machiavelli party is with ample support from the Indians and Afghans. You can post whatever obscure source to target the Army Chief but when you will see the actual audio and videos about to come out about Imran and his henchmen's corruption then we will talk!