Shaping the future of Air Power ( USA , Turkiye , The UK , France , China )

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Türkiye's intention to acquire J-10C or even JF-17 prove MURAD AESA performance is not that good, or even low level of confidence to be successful in KAAN project.


Turkiye did not make an official declaration to buy JF-17 or J-10 ....
Turkiye just buying F-16V and Eurofighter



And The chips produced at the AB Micronano Laboratory, established in partnership with ASELSAN and Bilkent University, have taken MURAD AESA to a higher level than its American counterparts. It is stated that the national AESA radar has twice the sending and receiving capacity of the AN/APG-77 type radar used on F-22

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It is claimed that with the new technological level achieved with GaN modules, the national AESA radar can scan a range of approximately 500 km in the air.

The range of AN/APG-77 on F-22 mention a range of approximately 250 km for a radar cross-sectional area (RCS) definition of 1 square meter. In other words, the F-22 radar can detect a 1 square meter RCS tracked object from a distance exceeding 200 km

It is stated that new generation GaN technologies can increase this range to 500 km. Aselsan MURAD radar incorporates this technology

Source : State owned TRTHABER
 

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Based on trash research papers ....... not real projects

according to trash list Iran is ahead of USA and UK France Russia ...... what a troll

Compared to your claim from thin air, the research papers is very much credible.

China is obvious leader in technology, while Turkiye is nothin. :LOL:

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Another user with butthurt feelings and with lies by Indians who are in shock since the first flight of Turkish Fighter Jet

The landing gears are different, it seems that they are more robust (F-18 Hornet Aircraft carrier type )

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Turkiye did not make an official declaration to buy JF-17 or J-10 ....
Turkiye just buying F-16V and Eurofighter

Why have to lie and deny?

It is your own President said so.

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And The chips produced at the AB Micronano Laboratory, established in partnership with ASELSAN and Bilkent University, have taken MURAD AESA to a higher level than its American counterparts. It is stated that the national AESA radar has twice the sending and receiving capacity of the AN/APG-77 type radar used on F-22

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It is claimed that with the new technological level achieved with GaN modules, the national AESA radar can scan a range of approximately 500 km in the air.

The range of AN/APG-77 on F-22 mention a range of approximately 250 km for a radar cross-sectional area (RCS) definition of 1 square meter. In other words, the F-22 radar can detect a 1 square meter RCS tracked object from a distance exceeding 200 km

It is stated that new generation GaN technologies can increase this range to 500 km. Aselsan MURAD radar incorporates this technology

Source : State owned TRTHABER

Whatever you claim the fact is Turkiye is still looking for 4++ or 4.5 gen fighter proving what you are boasting is not performing well nor successful yet.
 

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Why have to lie and deny?

It is your own President said so.

Reality

Turkiye just buying F-16V and Eurofighter from NATO

Turkiye never buy a Chinese Plane which is inferior to even F-16
 

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Whatever you claim the fact is Turkiye is still looking for 4++ or 4.5 gen fighter proving what you are boasting is not performing well nor successful yet.


Reality
Turkiye buys 40 unit 4.5 gen F-16Vs for interim solution until the KAAN Fighter Jet squadrons in 2030s

also to replace old F-4s
 

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Turkiye buys 40 unit 4.5 gen F-16Vs for interim solution until the KAAN Fighter Jet squadrons in 2030s

also to replace old F-4s

Not buy JF-17 / J-10 yet, but intention to buy already talk much about Turkiye desperation and technology level which is against your boasting claims.
 

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Not buy JF-17 / J-10 yet, but intention to buy already talk much about Turkiye desperation and technology level.

REALITY

Turkiye never interested in Chinese JF-17 and J-10 .... low quality and technology to compare with NATO standard


Turkiye joined F-35 5th gen Fighter Jet program as a global partner to replace old 47 F-4s and 35 F-16 block30s with 100 F-35A between 2020 and 2030
but after 2013 USA attacked on Turkiye and in 2018 USA blocked sale of F-35s to Turkiye

Turkiye just buying 40 F-16V also 40 Eurofighters for interim solution until the KAAN Fighter Jet squadrons in 2030s


Turkiye's technology level = top leauge in aviation industry

Turkiye has developed 10 air platforms within 10 years ...... world record
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REALITY

Turkiye never interested in Chinese JF-17 and J-10 .... low quality and technology to compare with NATO standard


Turkiye joined F-35 5th gen Fighter Jet program as a global partner to replace old F-4 fleet and F-16 block30s with 100 F-35A between 2020 and 2030
but after 2013 USA attacked on Turkiye and in 2018 USA blocked sale of F-35s to Turkiye

Turkiye just buying 40 F-16V also 40 Eurofighters for interim solution until the KAAN Fighter Jet squadrons in 2030s


Turkiye's technology level = top leauge in aviation industry

Turkiye has developed 10 air platforms within 10 years ...... world record
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Your delusion is not reality.


The reality is Turkiye is considering to buy Chinese second (J-10) or even third tier platform (JF-17) from China. Suggesting where the Turkiye level of technology should be. LOL
 

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Your delusion is not reality.


The reality is Turkiye is considering to buy Chinese second (J-10) or even third tier platform (JF-17) from China. LOL

Only in your fantasy world with fake youtube videos and India based lies


REALITY
Turkiye just buys 40 F-16V ............ NOT any JF-17 or J-10C

official source


Suggesting where the Turkiye level of technology should be. LOL


Chinese propaganda MOCK UP on Truck
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Turkish technology level is reality with KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 in the air
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Whole World will see who will use unmanned stealth Fighter Jets first . Turkiye or China
wait and see

TOPIC IS OVER
 
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Only in your fantasy world with silly youtube videos and India based lies


REALITY
Turkiye just buys 40 F-16V

official source





Chinese propaganda on Truck
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Turkish technology level is reality with KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 in the air
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Whole World will see who will use unmanned stealth Fighter Jets first . Turkiye or China
wait and see

TOPIC IS OVER

Only flying demonstration, but you are already boasting too much.
Your Kizilelma so far only show capability to fly, thats it. Only flying is nothing.

In fact KAAN and Kizilelma are the true propaganda with performance that most probably much below than propaganda/claim. Thats why Turkiye is still considering JF-17 and J-10C.
 
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Why have to lie and deny?

It is your own President said so.

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Whatever you claim the fact is Turkiye is still looking for 4++ or 4.5 gen fighter proving what you are boasting is not performing well nor successful yet.
JF-17 is 3.99 gen may be.
A point defense fighter is of no real use for Turkey.
I add that such a purchase will create the same kind of problems than S400 one.
Turkey is slightly leaving NATO, for the sake of the other members.
 

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JF-17 is 3.99 gen may be.
A point defense fighter is of no real use for Turkey.
I add that such a purchase will create the same kind of problems than S400 one.
Turkey is slightly leaving NATO, for the sake of the other members.

It is 4++ gen fighter.

It shot Qatar's 6 Rafale during Anatolian Eagle exercise, with score 6:2, 6 Rafale shot for 2 JF17 shot..
 

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Turkey is slightly leaving NATO, for the sake of the other members.

France and Greece can dream about it
but Turkiye is not leaving NATO

and dont believe Chinese what they says here
Turkiye just buying 40 new F-16V and modernize 200 F-16s for block70 standard
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also 40 new Eurofighters if Germany doesnt block this sale
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also KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles for BVR combat
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and 20 KAAN will be delivered to the Turkish Airforce in 2028
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even HURJET will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN and GOKHAN air to air Missiles for BVR combat


even stealth ANKA-3 will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar and GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles for BVR combat ...... first look - first kill capability
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even USA says
"If Turkiye addresses the US's concerns about the S-400s, it is possible to join the F-35 program again."
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even 250+ km Turkish SIPER Air Defense Missile to turn all enemy Fighter Jets into scrap of metal
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and 20 KAAN will be delivered to the Turkish Airforce in 2028

Look .... even Kizilelma that you are proud of and boasting by mocking GJ-11 in fact is still in development stage, no AESA radar installed yet, just flight demonstration... means still behind US Kratos Valkriye or Chinese GJ-11, DarkSword, MD-22 that have first flight much earlier than Kizilelma only lacking publication (propaganda) unlike Turkiye. :LOL:

Most of fighter that you mention above except F-16 are "will be" or speculation.
 

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