Shaping the future of Air Power ( USA , Turkiye , The UK , France , China )

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Look .... even Kizilelma that you are proud of and boasting by mocking GJ-11 in fact is still in development, no AESA radar installed yet, just flight demonstration... means still behind US Kratos Valkriye or Chinese GJ-11, DarkSword, MD-22 that have first flight much earlier than Kizilelma only lacking publication (propaganda) unlike Turkiye.

We can not see any Chinese GJ-11 and DARKSWORD in the sky

They are on Trucks for Chinese propaganda ....

 

[Antonius123]

We can not see any Chinese GJ-11 and DARKSWORD in the sky

They are on Trucks for Chinese propaganda ....
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China doesn't need to show off by publicizing video of flying combat drone, whole world has recognized China as technology superpower in field of drone, aerospace, and military fighter unlike Turkiye who is still thirsty of world recognition.

China is king of drone and aersopace, she can send robot to Mars and Tiangong space station and autonomous reusable Shenlong drone to outerspace, these are beyond Turkiye capability, so only flying a combat drone or fighter within atmosphere is simple thing for her.

The crucial things from autonomous combat drone is: AESA, advanced AI, missiles, propulsion, and stealth technology including the materials. Compared to China, Turkiye is still a todler in these fields; Turkiye is still in developing stage while China has installed all of these not only on J-20 but on J-10C also. J-10C has already use Gan based AESA, PL-15, and probably metamaterial to make it semi stealthy before Turkiye start to develop these.

So showing off flying drone like flying Kizilelma is nothing except advertisement/propaganda from a second world, esp as Kizilelma still has no AESA etc yet.

 

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China doesn't need to show off by flying drone,

China needs mock up drone on Trucks for propaganda

 

[Antonius123]

China needs mock up drone on Trucks for propaganda

That is military parade event. So what do you expect for military parade to display? LOL

So far China never/seldom advertise their fighter in development, unlike Turkiye.

World started to know China was developing stealth fighter only after China made first flight of J-20 in year 2011, while already Turkiye publicized KAAN far before KAAN make first flight.

 

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That is military parade event. So what do you expect for military parade to display? LOL

Air Platforms are flying for military parade to display such as J-20

No need to show mock up Drone on Trucks for propaganda
Show us real platforms in the air

Iran also loves propaganda on Trucks

China and Iran show mock up drone on Trucks
while Turkiye show cutting edge technology in the air

A First in the World:
A new era in aviation, Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time



so stop defame Turkish defense industry and just congratulate Turkiye like a gentleman

 

[Antonius123]

Air Platforms are flying for military parade to display such as J-20

No need to show mock up Drone on Trucks for propaganda
Show us real platforms in the air

Iran also loves propaganda on Trucks
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China and Iran show mock up drone on Trucks
while Turkiye show cutting edge technology in the air

A First in the World:
A new era in aviation, Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time



so stop defame Turkish defense industry and just congratulate Turkiye like a gentleman

Your logic and wishful thinking is funny.
Chinese military drone has been bought and used in many wars, so why do you doubt China can make real military drone?

Parade is a "show", so the purpose is showing and there is entertainment element inside. Flying drone is too small for audience to see hence drone on truck is better option for parade rather than flying ones. While the bigger object like fighter with trailing smoke can show off by flying low to entertain audience.

 

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Chinese military drone has been bought and used in many wars, so why do you doubt China can make real military drone?

I am talking about unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like Turkish KIZILELMA and ANKA-3

and we can not see any Chinese one in the air

 

[Antonius123]

I am talking about unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like Turkish KIZILELMA and ANKA-3

and we can not see any Chinese one in the air

I've told you thousand times, China never publicize any flying fighter/drone in development. Why is it difficult for you to grasp?

Have you ever seen publication of J-35 with video showing it flying the way Kizilelma fly?

Or can you show me the picture of any Chinese military drone flying upon audience during Chinese military parade?

Your accusation that GJ-11 on truck as mock up is illogical, because all smaller military object like drone or missile are always displayed on truck during Chinese military parade; but people can see that they are not mock up, unlike the drone on truck during Iran parade where people can see it is as obvious mock up.

 

[RescueRanger]

Please don't ague with each other. Just post information and move on.

Salam.

 

[Antonius123]

We can not see any Chinese GJ-11 and DARKSWORD in the sky

They are on Trucks for Chinese propaganda ....
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People can see these drone on truck of Iran are just mock up:

while this GJ-11 drone on truck are real deal:

But still Iran has proven her drone work well during Ukraine-Russia war though what you can see during her military parade was just blatant mock up.

 

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Another Country wants to create its own concept .... S.Korea



by 2037, KAI is expected to reach the engineering and manufacturing design stage for an additional type of combat drone acting as a loyal wingman to the piloted aircraft.

A single KF-21 would control up to four of the combat drones.

South Korea eyes mixed fleet of manned, unmanned warplanes​

South Korea eyes mixed fleet of manned, unmanned warplanes

The South Korean military's growing interest in manned-unmanned teaming comes amid a declining pool of 18-year-old conscripts.

www.defensenews.com

 

[Antonius123]

This is also shaping the future air power..... capable to shoot stealth fighter like F-22 from distance 2000km! and none of country except China is capable doing so at the moment. Even US is doing more than 40 powerful cyber attack to make the program fail/to spy on it.

Chinese scientists plan surface-to-air missile with 2,000km kill range​

• Researchers from sanctioned university said the weapon will be able to shoot down early-warning aircraft and bombers from unprecedented distance
• According to peer-reviewed paper, the technology ‘is of great significance for maintaining peace and stability’

Published: 10:00am, 28 Mar 2024​

China’s new missile design appears to be based on the Feitian-1 hypersonic vehicle, pictured ahead of its successful test launch in 2022. Photo: Northwestern Polytechnical University​

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Chinese researchers say they have designed a surface-to-air missile that will vastly outstrip its rivals, with a kill range of more than 2,000km (1,240 miles), according to a peer-reviewed paper published by the Chinese language Journal of Graphics.​

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Ultra-long-range air defence is considered infeasible, with surface-to-air missiles typically having a flight range of tens of kilometres and the fastest few reaching several hundred kilometres.​

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The team, led by Su Hua, an associate researcher at Northwestern Polytechnical University, said the weapon would be able to shoot down early-warning aircraft and bombers, preventing them from intervening in possible regional conflicts.​

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According to the paper, the PLA would issue a warning to any target aircraft’s country of origin and only fire if it failed to turn back. The technology “is of great significance for maintaining regional and global peace and stability”.​

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The PLA’s brief was for a weapon with low production costs that is also convenient for daily operations, at a maximum 10 metres (33ft) long and weighing no more than 4 tonnes to make it suitable for vehicle-mounted mobile launch, the paper said.​

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Su and his team exceeded expectations, designing an ultra-long-range missile at just 8 metres (26ft) and with a mass of 2.5 tonnes. A solid rocket motor will provide the enormous thrust for vertical launch, followed by a ramjet engine to propel the missile in the upper atmosphere.​

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The paper did not detail the missile’s appearance but the design parameters suggest it may be similar to the Feitian-1 hypersonic vehicle, which has a similar two-stage propulsion system and was successfully tested by the university two years ago.​

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The Feitian-1 is the world’s first hypersonic vehicle to be fuelled by inexpensive and safe kerosene. Its wing-body fusion design significantly extends its range by allowing it to fly continuously within the atmosphere.​

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The scientists said that real-time data from reconnaissance satellites will guide the new missile, before it switches to its own sensors in the final approach, detonating its warhead when it reaches an effective kill range.​

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China has established a powerful global satellite monitoring network that makes traditional stealth technology – as used by the United States’ B-2 and B-21 bombers – useless.​

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Jilin-1 – the world’s largest Earth observation satellite constellation – is capable of tracking an F-22 stealth fighter, according to a video released by the Chinese authorities showing one of the jets zipping through the clouds in real time.​

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Larger aircraft – such as tankers, early-warning aircraft and bombers – are slower. Their distinct features can be visually identified and tracked by satellites using artificial intelligence as soon as they appear on the runway, Su and his team said.​

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These satellites are part of China’s “anti-access/area denial” (A2/AD) capabilities that it has been developing to cope with potential military conflicts in hotspots such as the Taiwan Strait and the South China Sea.​

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Beijing has vowed to bring Taiwan under mainland control, by force if necessary. Like most countries, the US does not recognise the self-ruled island, but opposes any unilateral attempt to change the status quo and is committed to the island’s defence.​

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China initially regarded hypersonic weapons as primarily a supplementary means of breaking through the US missile defence system and attacking fixed targets within the United States in the event of a conflict.​

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Technological advances and improved performance of these weapons in recent years have led Chinese scientists and engineers to propose increasing numbers of applications for them.​

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These have included the possibility of attacking a moving aircraft carrier group with a barrage of hypersonic anti-ship missiles, and sending air-to-air missiles swooping down from near space to engage US stealth bombers.​

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The PLA’s conventional ballistic missiles and hypersonic weapons already cover all US military bases in the first island chain – which runs from the Japanese archipelago to Borneo – including South Korea, Japan and the Philippines.​

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China has also deployed a high-density undersea observation network in the South China Sea and the western Pacific Ocean to detect US nuclear submarines and launch attacks when necessary.​

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The US military has been gradually reallocating its forces to the second island chain, including its base on Guam, around 2,600km (1,620 miles) from Taiwan and 3,000km (1,860 miles) from the Chinese mainland.​

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A key US strategy in the event of a conflict in the Taiwan Strait is to send bomber fleets from Guam to target China’s fleet and coastal infrastructure and prevent the PLA from landing on the self-ruled island.​

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Earlier this month, the US Air Force tested a hypersonic missile launched from a B-52 bomber near Guam, in what some military experts said was a show of force and capability aimed at China.​

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According to its developers, the AGM-183A Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon will be able to strike ground targets at speeds exceeding Mach 7 from around 1,600km (994 miles) – previously considered a safe distance.​

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Despite congressional concerns, the US Air Force plans to purchase hundreds of these missiles, which will also be able to launch from the latest B-21 stealth bomber, at around US$15 million each.​

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The Northwestern Polytechnical University is a crucial institution for developing cutting-edge weapons in China and has long been subject to comprehensive US sanctions.​

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Two months after the Feitian-1’s successful 2022 test flight at a military base in China’s northwestern Gobi Desert, the Chinese government accused the US National Security Agency (NSA) of launching a cyberattack on the university.​

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Unlike previous statements that were vague about the perpetrators and techniques used, the Chinese government released specific details about the operation. Some cybersecurity experts interpreted China’s response as an unusually severe warning.​

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China alleged that the NSA’s Office of Tailored Access Operations (TAO) used more than 40 covert and powerful cyber weapons to hack into the university’s internal network and obtain confidential information.​

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To conceal its true identity, TAO went so far as to attack the network infrastructure of its allies, including Japan and South Korea, using them as stepping stones, according to the Chinese government.​

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Other details disclosed by the Chinese government in its statement after the alleged cyberattack included the identification of the operation’s head and personal information such as which high school he attended.​

Chinese scientists plan surface-to-air missile with 2,000km kill range

Chinese scientists plan surface-to-air missile with 2,000km kill range Researchers from sanctioned university said the weapon will be able to shoot down early-warning aircraft and bombers from unprecedented distance According to peer-reviewed paper, the technology ‘is of great significance for...

defencepk.com

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[Indos]

Indonesia Air Force will be pretty strong starting from 2029 inshaAllah.....

 

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The Rise of Electronic Warfare and Its Future​

Electronic warfare systems together with developing technology are among the most important areas of the future Air Power which is supposed to be called by "Spectrum War"



...... New generation Airborne Stand off Jammer Projects in the World ......


USA

EC-37B Compass Call electronic warfare (EW) Aircraft

It is expected to provide enhanced stand-off jamming capability for the USAF
The USAF plans to acquire 10 EC-37B Compass Call EW Aircraft which is expected to take place in mid-2024

EC-37B Compass Call Electronic Warfare Aircraft, US

The EA-37B (previously EC-37B) Compass Call electronic warfare (EW) aircraft is being developed to provide improved electronic attack capabilities for the US Air Force (USAF) based on the Gulfstream G550 commercial business jet.

www.airforce-technology.com

TURKIYE

HAVASOJ Airborne Stand off Jammer

Remote Electronic Support and Electronic Attack (ED / ET) capability project (HAVASOJ - Air Stand Off Jammer) in the air platform

Airborne SOJ will be produced for the purpose of detecting and diagnosing enemy communicationsystems and radars (air defense, early warning, etc.), finding their location, and mixing and deceiving these systems from 400 km in order not to use them against friendly elements, especially in cross border operations

The TURAF plans to acquire 4 HAVASOJ Airborne Stand off Jammer Aircraft until 2028

FRANCE

Falcon 8X electronic warfare Aircraft

On 30 December 2019 the French Defense Procurement Agency (DGA) ordered the Archange airborne strategic intelligence program, comprising three Dassault Aviation Falcon 8X aircraft equipped with the Thales new-generation payload CUGE (universal electronic warfare capability). A contract has been awarded for the first 2 Aircraft to be in service until 2028

The Falcon 8X Archange to serve the French Air Force - Press kits

The French Defense Procurement Agency ordered the Archange airborne strategic intelligence program, comprising three Dassault Aviation Falcon 8X aircraft. © Westimages

www.dassault-aviation.com

 

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Pingle , CallSignMaverick , kambhakt , Joe Shearer , GatlingGun , Tejas Spokesman ,

kaku , DDG-80​

What about India for future Air Power ?

You need 5th - 6th gen Fighters and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets-UCAVs , Airborne stand off jammer Aircraft to match with China

It seems China will dominate the region