TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

[hodor]

Yes for sure, the KF-21‘s radar has a range of only 18km!

Radar range calculated according to RCS

 

[MMM-E]

Yes for sure, the KF-21‘s radar has a range of only 18km!

Its not radar range

Its engagement range against RCS of 0.0030 m2
F-16V has APG-83 AESA Radar but can detect stealth F-35 from 30-34 km away
so APG-83 Radar has range of 30-34 km ?

AN/APG-83 radar can detect a target with a RCS of 1 m2 at 135 km

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[Indos]

Radar range calculated according to RCS

How do you know about RCS ? Does KAI inform you about KF21 RCS...?

This is confidential data

 

[Indos]

Its not radar range

Its engagement range against RCS of 0.0030 m2
F-16V has APG-83 AESA Radar but can detect stealth F-35 from 30-34 km away

[edited]

Just wait KF21/ IFX perfom in Pitch Black in Australia inshaAllah...

 

[MMM-E]

How do you know about RCS ? Does KAI inform you about KF21 RCS...?

This is confidential data

Everybody knows that KF-21 has far bigger RCS than KAAN

KF-21 doesnt have even internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability

Its your KF-21 ...

 

[Indos]

Everybody knows that KF-21 has far bigger RCS than KAAN

KF-21 doesnt have even internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability

Its your KF-21
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Internal weapon bay is pretty useless when KF21 has semi conformal bay to launch 4 missiles and developing Wingman stealth drones to store other missiles. The space that KF21 still has on the belly will be used for electronic device means to control its wingman drone inshaAllah

 

[MMM-E]

Internal weapon bay is pretty useless when KF21 has semi conformal bay to launch 4 missiles and developing Wingman stealth drones to store other missiles. The space that KF21 still has on the belly will be used for electronic device means to control its wingman drone inshaAllah

KF-21 can not carry Bombs , Cruise Missiles and anti-radiotion Missiles in stealth mode for Air to ground attack and SEAD-DEAD role

KF-21 is easy target for long range Air Defense Systems

And South Korea has no technology to develop unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like Turkish KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4

Only on paper

on the other hand...
Turkiye offers full of tactical air combat doctrine

from KAAN 5th gen Fighter to KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets
from HAVASOJ airborne stand of jammer to SUPER SIMSEK jet powered Kamikaze Drone
from BURFIS powerful AESA Radar to 200 km GOKHAN ramjet powered air to air Missile
from TULGAR HMDS to YILDIRIM-300 DIRCM
from SOM-J stealth Cruise Missile to AKBABA supersonic anti-radiation Missisle

And indigenous TF-10.000 , TF-35.000 turbofan Engines


S.Korea dependent on USA-Israeli technologies for the KF-21

 

[Indos]

even KF-21 can not carry Bombs , Cruise Missiles and anti-radiotion Missiles in stealth mode for Air to ground attack and SEAD-DEAD role

KF-21 is easy target for long range Air Defense Systems

And South Korea has no technology to develop unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like Turkish KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4

Only on paper

on the other hand...
Turkiye offers full of tactical air combat doctrine

from KAAN 5th gen Fighter to KIZILELMA and ANKA-3/4 unmanned stealth Fighter Jets
from HAVASOJ airborne stand of jammer to SUPER SIMSEK jetpowered Kamikaze Drone
from BURFIS powerful AESA Radar to 200 km GOKHAN ramjet powered air to air Missile
from SOM-J stealth Cruise Missile to AKBABA supersonic anti-radiation Missisle

And indigenous TF-10.000 , TF-35.000 turbofan Engines


S.Korea dependent on USA-Israeli technologies for the KF-21

Dude Korea stealth wingman drone is already flying before Turkish one. You are late. I dont need to further debate on you since you will not stop

It is developed by other Korean company who participate on KFX/IFX tender to determine which Korean Aerospace manufacturing company will participate on EMD phase (Engineering and Manufacturing Development ) but lost to KAI in 2015.

KAI and LM just enter the program in 2016. The based design of KF21 is developed by ADD Korea and Indonesian Aerospace with code name C 103 and C 203 ( with canard) during the TD ( Technology Development) phase that started in 2011.

 

[MMM-E]

Dude Korea stealth wingman drone is already flying before Turkish one. You are late.

Where ? PLease show me
No any S.Korean stealth UCAV and unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
S.Korea has also UCAV project but it never can be high tech platform like Turkish AKINCI UCAV


KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet already flying for years and enter mass production in 2024-2025 period

also ANKA-3 flying wing stealth UCAV in formation flight with HURJET

Even there will be twin engine variant of KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 with the latest technologies including AESA Radar , EOTS , IRTS , Datalink

Bigger platform than F-16V and RAFALE
Much lower RCS than F-16V and RAFALE

 

[MMM-E]

Saudi and UAE have better chance to be KF21 operators than TFX/ Khan if we see recent development

S.Korea can not sale KF-21 without American-Israeli permission
The KF-21 almost full of American-Israeli-European technology

even Missiles from USA and Europe

Since USA does not sell F-35s to the UAE and KSA, then America does not allow the export of KF-21 to muslim Countries


KAAN will be full of indigenous with TR-MOTOR turbofan Engine and TAI ejection Seat

 

[Deino]

Saudi and UAE have better chance to be KF21 operators than TFX/ Khan if we see recent development

100% for sure since while certain fan-boys and propagandists claim this and that, make a lot a brahoo on what "Kaan will be and has" and that the poor South Koreans are "reliant on US and other Western technology", they totally forget in their nationalistic & testosterone-loaded ignorance that Kaan is at the moment just a technology demonstrator, nothing more and even more one powered by too weak US-engines and as long as the own ones are not ready it remains even more a project "reliant on US and other Western technology".

But why feeding a dead horse?

 

[MMM-E]

S.Korean KF-21 technology


-- Engine from American GE
-- AESA Radar technology from Israeli ELTA Systems
-- Terrain-following/terrain avoidance (TF/TA) Systems from Israeli ELTA Systems
-- IRST sensor head unit from Italian LEONARDO
-- CANOPY technology from American TEXSTARS
-- AMADs from American TRIUMP GROUP
-- HELMET from USA
-- Main Generator from American COLLINS AEROSPACE
-- Missile ejection launchers from British COBHAM
-- Ejection Seat from British MARTIN-BAKER
-- Wheel braking system from American MEGGITT
-- Air to Air Missiles from USA and Europe
-- Cruise Missiles from USA and Europe

even simulation link system from Turkish SDT Space and Defense Technologies

Almost full of American-Israeli-European technology




Turkish KAAN technology

-- Engine from American GE
-- Ejection Seat from British MARTIN-BAKER

Indigenous Systems
-- Mission Computer from TUBITAK BILGEM
-- AESA Radar from Aselsan
-- IRST from Aselsan
-- EOTS from Aselsan
-- DIRCM from Aselsan
-- HMDS from Aselsan
-- FEWS Electronic Warfare Suite from Aselsan
-- Software from HAVELSAN
-- DC/Convector from KOLT
-- CANOPY from VOLO
-- Landing Gear from TAAC
-- Wheel braking system from KIM
-- Main Generator from VOLT
-- Air to Air Missiles from TUBITAK-SAGE
-- Cruise Missiles from ROKETSAN

-- TR-MOTOR develops 35.000 lbf indigenous turbofan Engine
-- TAI develops indigenous ejection Seat

KAAN will be almost full of indigenous



Reality is always reality even so-called MODS wont change this reality with their trash posts

 

[Eşbah]

Thread closed. Will be reopened after a brief clean up.

 

[Eşbah]

Guys, you are able to express your opinions without resorting to insults towards one another.

 

[MMM-E]

Radar range calculated according to RCS

[edit]

I am showing engagement range and he says Radar range ... and he is a MOD
KF-21 doesnt have even internal weapon bay for stealth mode

Now he says KAAN use weak American engine ... 29.500 lbf GE F-110
while KF-21 use American Engine too ... 22.000 lbf GE F-414


Turkish Defense Industry is almost going to silence them so hard
They won't be able to talk anymore like dead horse

Let's be patient for 5 more years