Turkish Naval Programs
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Ali_Baba
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Any links to this aircraft carrier design? Is it a helicopter + done/UAV aircraft carrier ?
Oublious
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You should not wait something from the AC project, you will see MILDEN before AC. TF2000 in 2 years, AC 10 years later.
Oublious
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Agt the moment ther are 31 ships being build for the Turkish Navy.
7 I-class
6 Hisar OPV
5 AIP submarine
8 FAC ships
1 Minehunter class
Tf2000 and Mugem should not being counted because they are going take time.
7 I-class
6 Hisar OPV
5 AIP submarine
8 FAC ships
1 Minehunter class
Tf2000 and Mugem should not being counted because they are going take time.
This marks more of a symbolic beginning for the project. However, what's less symbolic is the reality that 31 warships are currently being built simultaneously for the Turkish Navy.
The Navy frequently goes unnoticed, yet it is currently experiencing an impressive modernization initiative. Only China is advancing more rapidly than Turkey in this regard.
Oublious
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When our Reisclass AIP finished Atilay class will be decomissioned, these submarine are 40+ years old, 6 Reisclass, 4 Preveze and 4 Gurclass subs we will have 14 modern subs. Milden is for the long run.
8 I-class, 4 Barbarros class modernized and think 4 Gabya class will stay opeartional untill TF-2000 is ready. 16 modern ships. Our navy stays with 16 Fregate ships, what is magical about that? I hope that amount will go up. Eight Tf2000 was planned maybe it will go down who nows?
4 Milgem corvettes should bu upgraded with VLS we could use them as Frigate, or not. 6 Hisar class OPV what can be upgraded like a Corvette, the project was aimed for 10 pieces but they are building 6 for now. Our OPV ships are almost new, Tuzla class 16. When you add Hisar that will be 22.
8 I-class, 4 Barbarros class modernized and think 4 Gabya class will stay opeartional untill TF-2000 is ready. 16 modern ships. Our navy stays with 16 Fregate ships, what is magical about that? I hope that amount will go up. Eight Tf2000 was planned maybe it will go down who nows?
4 Milgem corvettes should bu upgraded with VLS we could use them as Frigate, or not. 6 Hisar class OPV what can be upgraded like a Corvette, the project was aimed for 10 pieces but they are building 6 for now. Our OPV ships are almost new, Tuzla class 16. When you add Hisar that will be 22.
Anatolian
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To spoil the fun for some people here, this is purely ceremonial. The detail and design of the aircraft carrier are still being worked on and by every metric is seems extremely unlikely that we are working on both the TF-2000 destroyer and aircraft carriers at the same time. We havent even heard anything about shipyards even being capable of producing one at this very moment so this all seems like "political propaganda" campaign if nothing else.
All of the projects are going to take several years to actually come to fruition. Especially the MILDEN project since all of these are completely new territory for Turkey. What this more seems like is more that these project are finally going to be prioritized and taken seriously now, but not that they are ready to be made yet. We won't see the first TF-2000 untill 2030, the AC untill something like 2040 and god knows when we will see the Milden. Mind you that is just the calculated dates based on current speed, I have not mentioned or factored in the shitshow that is Turkish procurement process. The company that has this to the ruling party always seems to drag things down with cross mismanagement and corruption *cough* BMC
Foinikas
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@Anatolian @Eşbah
Meanwhile,the comments on Greek defence sites are full of frustration. A level of admiration and even indirect congratulations to the Turks and frustration because of our incompetent leadership. The Hellenic Navy,the only undefeated branch for some 200+ years now and a nation with naval tradition since ancient times,has come to a point of shrinking. The politicians and probably some in the Navy too,have been delaying upgrade programs and new units acquisitions,because they can't decide what they want. They want to spend big money for F-35s,yet leave the Navy with old frigates and outdated submarines.
You can imagine the comments when a greek sees Turks starting on TF-2000 and making more Istanbul Class frigates,while building more submarines every year. At the same time,our brilliant minds wouldn't buy the 4th FDI HN back in 2020-2021 and decided they want it now,after the option has expired,so they have to pay it not just full price,but even more expensive due to the war in Ukraine skyrocketing material costs.
They spent 2021-2023 unable to decide which corvettes they want,then how many they want. Should we buy 4 Gowind or 4 Doha Class? Should we buy 3 or 4? ....then they abandoned that too.
The MEKO 200HN modernization program has become a joke,at first they wanted to upgrade them all,then they said 2 or 3 of them,then they said all 4 but it will only be a partial upgrade. Now they abandoned that too.
That's why we're laughing at our predicament and saying well done to the Turks. They may have problems in their economy,but they sure keep it up. If Erdogan says "build 5 more ships",they build 5 more ships. Here we have happy smiling morons,who imagine AA domes with 2 billion euros and powerful navies with future 2030+ Constellation class frigates...
It's admirable that Turks are chasing their dreams and are making them reality.
Meanwhile,the comments on Greek defence sites are full of frustration. A level of admiration and even indirect congratulations to the Turks and frustration because of our incompetent leadership. The Hellenic Navy,the only undefeated branch for some 200+ years now and a nation with naval tradition since ancient times,has come to a point of shrinking. The politicians and probably some in the Navy too,have been delaying upgrade programs and new units acquisitions,because they can't decide what they want. They want to spend big money for F-35s,yet leave the Navy with old frigates and outdated submarines.
You can imagine the comments when a greek sees Turks starting on TF-2000 and making more Istanbul Class frigates,while building more submarines every year. At the same time,our brilliant minds wouldn't buy the 4th FDI HN back in 2020-2021 and decided they want it now,after the option has expired,so they have to pay it not just full price,but even more expensive due to the war in Ukraine skyrocketing material costs.
They spent 2021-2023 unable to decide which corvettes they want,then how many they want. Should we buy 4 Gowind or 4 Doha Class? Should we buy 3 or 4? ....then they abandoned that too.
The MEKO 200HN modernization program has become a joke,at first they wanted to upgrade them all,then they said 2 or 3 of them,then they said all 4 but it will only be a partial upgrade. Now they abandoned that too.
That's why we're laughing at our predicament and saying well done to the Turks. They may have problems in their economy,but they sure keep it up. If Erdogan says "build 5 more ships",they build 5 more ships. Here we have happy smiling morons,who imagine AA domes with 2 billion euros and powerful navies with future 2030+ Constellation class frigates...
It's admirable that Turks are chasing their dreams and are making them reality.
