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[Desert]

Egyptians never admit they lost 1973,I've discussed with them many times and never admit it. As for the war of attrition,what exactly did you win? No border change,nothing.

Why should we admit something never happened?

But we can admit something else, we kicked out hundreds of thousands of greeks outta Egypt and we took all their belongings.

 

[Foinikas]

Fun fact: there are no recorded Greeks serving as Janissaries. None. And if any ever did slip in during the very earliest period, it would’ve been from newly conquered Balkan regions — not from established Greek communities. The entire devşirme system was designed specifically to avoid recruiting from Anatolian Turkish beys, lords, and elites, because the sultan didn’t fully trust the entrenched Turkic nobility at the time. That’s why the system focused on newly conquered Christian populations in the Balkans, not long‑standing communities in Anatolia or Egypt.

PDF Turks rewriting history since 2010

 

[Foinikas]

Folk songs aren’t historical sources, man. Every region has folk songs and stories about “refusing to convert,” “becoming a Turk,” “heroic resistance,” whatever. Greece has tons of them ... and most were later shown to be national‑romantic inventions created during the formation of the modern Greek state in the 19th century. They’re not archival evidence, they’re cultural storytelling. So I wouldn’t trust “folk songs” as proof of anything.

And again, prove me wrong. If Greeks were supposedly a major devşirme source, then show me one famous Greek Janissary. You can’t. Same with Armenians ... name me a single famous Armenian Janissary. You can’t. The reason is simple: in the early period, recruitment was more chaotic, but as the empire became politically structured, the sultans avoided pulling from groups that already had established roles or were politically sensitive. Greeks had their own administrative, clerical, and commercial functions within the empire. Armenians had their own merchant and artisan networks. These groups weren’t the target pool.

I just replied above.

 

[Musings]

Stop wasting my time. Posts will be deleted if not on topic