USA Rethinking the India-Pakistan Dynamic.

[东风夜放花千树]

That's probably the main factor in America's rebalancing between India and Pakistan. While Trump is more crassly against India, even under the Biden administration, the cooling off relationship with India had started.
Pakistan is very lucky to have the Chinese firmly on Pakistan's side!

China absolutely supports Pakistan.
This is because China and Pakistan now have a common enemy and have always shared common interests. China and Pakistan have had diplomatic relations for 74 years.
From this map, it can be seen that Pakistan is China’s first stop for trade.

China has a trade deficit of over one trillion US dollars, and the opening of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor will bring huge benefits to both countries. Pakistan can gain a large amount of transit fees, and issues such as employment, income, transportation, environment, and education can be addressed, while China can further develop its trade. These projects have already begun construction and require joint efforts from both China and Pakistan. Therefore, China supports Pakistan partly because it brings mutual benefits, and partly because the two countries have had diplomatic relations for 74 years, allowing them to build mutual trust.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Saw on an Indian channel just yesterday that 800 million Indians can't afford to feed themselves and thus the Indian govt gives them free/subsidized food. 800 million!!
And but is the Pakistanis always in breast beating mode due to Pakistan's domestic political reasons.
As for this topic, I think there is no going back to the India-America warm relations starting with Bill Clinton 2000 until the very recent past. Part of India's appeal was to contain China and now the world knows India can't even contain Pakistan, let alone China. India could still be given some special considerations by the West but I don't think the old bonhomie is coming back anytime soon. And maybe not too bad for Pakistan-China-India to have a development like that.

A balance has now been achieved. India does not have the capability to break this balance in the short term, unless it acquires fifth-generation aircraft.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

oh please do we are counting on u buying Russian things and not US

I actually hope India buys the American F-35. Since the F-35 entered service, it has crashed quite a few times but has never been shot down. Pakistani pilots have used the J-10C to shoot down Rafales, SU-30s, and MiG-29s. I believe Pakistani pilots can also use the J-35A to shoot down F-35s. By then, the messages posted on Trump's X platform are bound to be very interesting.

 

[hasssanali8998]

J-35A to shoot down F-35s

i am sorry but US weapons are superior ( for now ) , but you are right its iaf they probably would go into a fight with Luneburg lenses on the f35

 

[东风夜放花千树]

You literally can use ocean route! China buys goods from farther places than that! Nah, you just don't want to! Afterall, CPEC is meant to benefit China primarily. Pakistan just happens to be the route you want to use! It is not meant to build Pakistan's industrial capacity.

USE SEA! You are king of using ships!

What are we going to do about the road from the mine to the seaside? Don’t you think things through at all when you do them?

 

[Meengla]

A balance has now been achieved. India does not have the capability to break this balance in the short term, unless it acquires fifth-generation aircraft.

The Indian Airforce fighter jets are out of the equation right now unless India, in a surprise massive volley of missiles, destroys the PAF jets on the ground.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

The Indian Airforce fighter jets are out of the equation right now unless India, in a surprise massive volley of missiles, destroys the PAF jets on the ground.

Your understanding is correct; India cannot compete with Pakistan for air superiority.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Ali_Baba

OK, thanks, got it now.

Regards

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@东风夜放花千树
China has a trade deficit of over one trillion US dollars,

Hainji? I though China had a trade surplus over over USD 1 trillion. Unless in Sino-English, deficit means surplus?

and the opening of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor will bring huge benefits to both countries.

The CPEC is already open. What huge benefits has it brought to the two countries?

Regards

 

[Thinking]

@东风夜放花千树
China has a trade deficit of over one trillion US dollars,

Hainji? I though China had a trade surplus over over USD 1 trillion. Unless in Sino-English, deficit means surplus?

and the opening of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor will bring huge benefits to both countries.

The CPEC is already open. What huge benefits has it brought to the two countries?

Regards

CPEC is nonsense. This is not a loan. China loans itself. So CPEChas not generated any jobs, any real economic activity. On top of that, only benefit to Pakistan is "transit" fee! So yeah, Pakistan now owes China billions and may be in future it will earn some "transit fee". Benevolence of China, no doubt. That CPEC infra won't be good for anything else since no one is propping industries in Pakistan.

According to guy, "sea" is too far!

 

[Thinking]

What are we going to do about the road from the mine to the seaside? Don’t you think things through at all when you do them?

Ah, 15 years spent and 15 more spent just to build roads for mines, right? LOL.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Ah, 15 years spent and 15 more spent just to build roads for mines, right? LOL.

Pakistan provides them with redundacy for their fuel supplies guarded by nukes in case they come under blockade.

In return they get access to exotic high end weapons which ensures an edge against their rivals. This is a trusted and deep partnership.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

America’s Pakistan Shift (Summary - article will be posted on LinkedIn)

The U.S. hasn’t suddenly discovered Pakistan’s strategic value, it’s acting in its own interest, as always. Trump’s outreach reflects his personal style, not a deep strategic pivot. Washington has long known about Pakistan’s location, resources, and military ties. Critics argue Pakistan’s elite mismanaged these assets, keeping the country dependent and corrupt.
This doesn’t mean the U.S. has abandoned India. Trump may be punishing Modi, but America’s long term strategy still sees India as key to countering China. The game continues until the dollar crashes and China rises.

 

[r3alist]

America’s Pakistan Shift (Summary - article will be posted on LinkedIn)

The U.S. hasn’t suddenly discovered Pakistan’s strategic value, it’s acting in its own interest, as always. Trump’s outreach reflects his personal style, not a deep strategic pivot. Washington has long known about Pakistan’s location, resources, and military ties. Critics argue Pakistan’s elite mismanaged these assets, keeping the country dependent and corrupt.
This doesn’t mean the U.S. has abandoned India. Trump may be punishing Modi, but America’s long term strategy still sees India as key to countering China. The game continues until the dollar crashes and China rises.

Does anyone really think trump is running things at a whim?

This might be the best pay op off all time

Look think tanks who make real decisions or shape policy were speaking of this before trump got elected, the US had an approach of strategic altruism ..... Let's take a calculated bet with India basically

Trump is merely the vehicle the shift is being delivered from, and he adds his own style

 

[Meengla]

Pakistan provides them with redundacy for their fuel supplies guarded by nukes in case they come under blockade.
In return they get access to exotic high end weapons which ensures an edge against their rivals. This is a trusted and deep partnership.

Right but way more than that. It seems true that CPEC is not delivering as much as its promised potentials, yet!, but if you go back to 2015 then you'll see that at that time 'No One' wanted to invest in Pakistan but the Chinese massive investment not only ended the investment draught but also created enough noise for the non-Chinese investments, which, as I see it, is bound to rise a lot after the recent India-Pakistan military conflict.

BTW, one can't just say that motorways and energy projects are not going to yield substantially--they do and they already are. During my recent trip to Pakistan, I saw a lot of economic activity even at 2 AM in and around Karachi during my last trip because the motorways are acting as the arteries for economic growth.