China preparing for 'protracted' war, says think tank

[Hari Sud]

I am aware of this, yes, weather and geography dictate how China should fight this war. Certainly, a landing in Taiwan is not as easy a task as how PDF Chinese expert talks proposed. In fact I'm aware of this post somewhere you write in the old PDF.

But has it ever tickled your mind, that somewhere there, the Chinese (the PLA war planners of course, not PDF China experts) are actively trying to overwhelm the force and constraint of nature by sheer engineering?

What if the Chinese come up with a 21st-century equivalent of Mehmet ordering ships to be dragged on land? and lay 1000 years of brilliant natural and man-made defense obsolete?

The Chinese war planners have 70+ years to plan for this, and they're not any less aware than you are.

What if instead of short sharp wars, a la Desert Storm, the Chinese opted for a long military campaign that worked to China's advantage? I read a lot of op-eds and news from Western think tanks that China would surrender quickly after the West destroyed the PLAN, the cream of PLA's military modernization (emulating the Germans in WW1). But after seeing that Putin was not overthrown after the large-scale defeat 6 months early into the war, there needs to be questions floated about how realistic such hope is.


Also, you're talking about the technical aspects only, war is complex and it goes down to non-technical issues as well. A long military campaign, enduring years for example, could thin out, not only Taiwan's military infrastructure but also its willingness to fight. I saw a lot of enthusiasm of Ukrainians entering the local territorial defense force early in the war, 2 years later they had to be kidnapped in broad daylight by recruitment officers. The Taiwanese aren't any less human than those Ukrainians.

Losses Chinese will suffer both military and commercial, they will not be able to recover in 100 years. Chinese are fully aware of it and will not fight but just intimidate.

 

[Han Patriot]

Already addressed this insignificant event earlier but keep repeating yourself like a broken record.

Yup and it is still not recognizing Taiwan as a country. I wonder why?

US can wargame anywhere in the world while Russia, China and NK cannot.

Looooserrrssss

Idk about India, you keep bringing it into the thread thinking I'm Indian.

Seldom see an anti Chinese Pakistani, who cares anyway. US can wargame anywhere because they spend 800bil$. If we spend that much, we won't have a HSR.

US equipment and some US citizens are already in Ukraine but a person like you probably doesn't know that. Or isn't man enough to admit it.

Keep yapping though, it's fun reading low tier posts like yours.

Mod Edit Ohh, training and volunteers huh, why the fear of Russia? i thought US is stronk? Bhai, you can shout as much as you want, a few volunteers can't change the outcome. You need to mobilize the army, come on I dare you OR US is just full of air?loollololol. Fat boy kim is still waiting for the invasion.

 

[Han Patriot]

Losses Chinese will suffer both military and commercial, they will not be able to recover in 100 years. Chinese are fully aware of it and will not fight but just intimidate.

That's what they said about China in the 50s too. While India had not been in any major war. Having said that, if America touched Mainland China, it is WW3, and bye bye USA. The end of humanity, Russia will join in the fiasco as well, you think our nukes are only aimed at USA?

 

[ety]

They will forever hate Chinese because their independence from China requires it. Otherwise, sooner or later, Vietnam will be re-integrated back to China.

I don't think most Chinese today would seriously want Vietnam to be back as a province or part of China like thousand years ago.

 

[Yellow is Okay]

What's the use ? The ungrateful Vietnamese will always belittle and deny any useful Chinese help to Vietnam in their wars against US and France. If it wasn't for China stopping the US army from crossing the 17th parallel into North Vietnam, Vietnam today is an American colony. They just want to perpetuate their hate of China as their thousand year historical enemy to justify and keep Vietnam's independence. Snake will always bite back on the hand feeds it. Maybe, they rather like to be an American or French colony than being a friend of China as some top Vietnamese leaders voiced.

Sounds good to me considering things have been going well in Japan, Korea, Taiwan and even Singapore. All thrive under democracies.

 

[ety]

Sounds good to me considering things have been going well in Japan, Korea, Taiwan and even Singapore. All thrive under democracies.

If you want to be colonized slaves, that's your choice, just then don't ask China for help to fight the wars.

 

[Yellow is Okay]

If you want to be colonized slaves, that's your choice, just then don't ask China for help to fight the wars.

Why do you keep referring to others as 'slaves'? Can you specify what exactly makes you to characterize Japanese, Korean, and Taiwanese individuals in this way? From my perspective, they are proud and respected people.

 

[ety]

Why do you keep referring to others as 'slaves'? Can you specify what exactly makes you to characterize Japanese, Korean, and Taiwanese individuals in this way? From my perspective, they are proud and respected people.

Lol, it's so obvious, Japanese and South Korea have tens of thousands US GIs boots there, they pretty much can do whatever they want there with impunity. These two countries are best said colonies of the US, people there live to serve and pleasure American interests.

 

[Yellow is Okay]

Lol, it's so obvious, Japanese and South Korea have tens of thousands US GIs boots there, they pretty much can do whatever they want there with impunity. These two countries are best said colonies of the US, people there live to serve and pleasure American interests.

You're aware of the reasons behind the presence of US military forces in South Korea and Japan, aren't you? Even if what you said were accurate, how does that relate to the ordinary citizens? These people enjoy the freedom to travel to many countries without a visa, pursue education, and work across various sectors in the US and Western countries. Moreover, their domestic industries receive support rather than restrictions from the West. Sadly, the situation in Vietnam doesn't mirror this, and it might be even worse in China considering the bad relations between China and the US right now.

 

[Saudang]

In a China Taiwan war, given that a lot of other players will be involved bogging down China, .. India will be really tempted to open another front to recover the Aksai Chin portion of Ladakh region

 

[Saudang]

Taiwan has no nuclear power plants. All of Taiwan's coal power plants be demolished within a few days by strategic bombers operating from Kashgar airport which is outside the range of Taiwan's missiles.

so are you saying that Taiwan has to hit the kashgar Airport in China as a retaliation for a Chinese attack.. why not bomb the coastal chinese cities and other infrastructure as a retaliation ?

 

[ety]

You're aware of the reasons behind the presence of US military forces in South Korea and Japan, aren't you? Even if what you said were accurate, how does that relate to the ordinary citizens? These people enjoy the freedom to travel to many countries without a visa, pursue education, and work across various sectors in the US and Western countries. Moreover, their domestic industries receive support rather than restrictions from the West. Sadly, the situation in Vietnam doesn't mirror this, and it might be even worse in China considering the bad relationship between China and the US right now.

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I want to say the relatively high living standard of Japan and South Korea have much more to do with their people's own hard working and right smart government developmental policies in the past decades rather than American generous handout or help. You people can praise and worship the US as much as you want, and if you think the US is your savior and can make Vietnam a developed rich country in short time, just good luck. But, to the Chinese, Russians and many people in developing countries, US is an evil hegemon empire. The Chinese world doesn't just revolve around America, we trade and invest in BRI and other developing countries too, China's trade with developing countries is more than that with developed countries namely US, EU, Japan, Australia and others.

 

[ohyea]

so are you saying that Taiwan has to hit the kashgar Airport in China as a retaliation for a Chinese attack.. why not bomb the coastal chinese cities and other infrastructure as a retaliation ?

In a China Taiwan war, given that a lot of other players will be involved bogging down China, .. India will be really tempted to open another front to recover the Aksai Chin portion of Ladakh region

India didn't want any war during 2020 standoff with China. India move 50 thousands troops just stand down at that moment. India just postures for show with no action against China. I can bet China will attack India to retake South Tibet.

 

[Yellow is Okay]

I want to say the relatively high living standard of Japan and South Korea have much more to do their their people's own hard working and right smart government developmental policies in the past decades rather than American generous handout or help. You people can praise and worship the US as much as you want, and if you think the US is your savior and can make Vietnam a developed rich country in short time, just good luck. But, to the Chinese, Russians and many people in developing countries, US is an evil hegemon empire.

You seem to have misunderstood my argument. I'm not here debating whether the success of Japan, Korea, and Taiwan is solely due to the US or not. Even if we accept the fact that Vietnam can't progress, being a developed country or not, our citizens can have better lives and opportunities compared to what is currently going on here. And as for the developing countries you mentioned, at least here in Southeast Asia, the general sentiment towards the US isn't negative. In fact, most of us maintain a neutral stance when it comes to China and the US.

 

[Yommie]

so are you saying that Taiwan has to hit the kashgar Airport in China as a retaliation for a Chinese attack.. why not bomb the coastal chinese cities and other infrastructure as a retaliation ?

If Taiwan bomb civilians then China will retaliate by bombing their civilians. Guess who has more civilians?