Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

تفاهم‌نامه‌ای که امضا شد حاصل خرد جمعی اعضای شعام بود و همه اعضا با آن همدل‌اند. باور دارم این تفاهم‌نامه مرکز ثقل روابط خارجی ما در آینده خواهد بود. باید بکوشیم دشمن را وادار کنیم به آنچه امضا کرده پایبند بماند. امنیت کشور، منطقه و هم‌پیمانان ما با این تفاهم‌نامه ارتقا می‌یابد.

simple , he said we should force the enemy to honor MOU ...

The Iranian people are stupid for voting for a former doctor to lead geopolitics.

Putin: former KGB officer, decades of experience

Xi: father was once close to Mao, Xi was a prince-ling and spent his career working his way up the governmental office ladder starting in the provinces and improving their governance and gaining clout within the party.

Meanwhile in Iran: Let’s bring in a doctor who has never fought for his country or held office.

And let his “boss” be a man (Mojtaba) who is unremarkable and despite having his whole family killed, he still wants to make peace with America .

As I said, Iran is ruled by fools. These guys are just a foolish as Reza Phalavi. It seems the average Iranian cannot elect a strong leader. The revolutionary flame is all but burned out in this society. Iran is headed to being a Euro Trash society like France and England is today — former shells of their superpower status.
 
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A. Nukes ARE haram

No they are not. You know nothing:

The use of nuclear weapons on civilian populations may be haram. But the storage of nuclear weapons is not Haram. And the use of nuclear weapons on legitimate military targets is not haram. The use of nuclear weapons to protect Muslims from genocide is not haram.

Get out of here with your diluted thinking. The individual who wrote that fatwa is dead alongside 95% of his family tree, while thousands have died due to his attempt to buy himself into heaven.
 
Ridiculous notion from the mouth of a jew
These people, and that other person who has been temporarily banned for consistently attacking others like me, are most likely Hasbara trolls disguising themselves as IR-supporters.

Any person with a functioning brain knows that Iran must produce nuclear weapons to survive. The current situation is unbearable and will one way or another lead to Iran's unconditional surrender in the long run, which is exactly what Trump has been planning for.

There's no such thing as a "haram" weapon in Islam. Any person that says so is completely retarded. If anything, Islam has obligated Muslims to pursue the strongest means of defending themselves militarily.
 
As I said, Iran is ruled by fools. These guys are just a foolish as Reza Phalavi. It seems the average Iranian cannot elect a strong leader. The revolutionary flame is all but burned out in this society. Iran is headed to being a Euro Trash society like France and England is today — former shells of their superpower status.
That's what I told you before the war. Unfortunately, Iran will not become a Euro-trash society in the sense that it will be at least relatively prosperous with a strong currency and a strong passport while sucking up to the world powers. Iran will turn into a failed state Euro-trash country soon. At best, we will be another failed state like Belarus or post-war Ukraine, but I think we're heading towards even worse, like Syria, Venezuela, Cuba, etc.
 
Of course because attacking Israel, is attacking America.

Iran’s strategy was never a direct war with Israel it was a suffocation strategy. The goal was to build a ring of fire around Israel until Israel implodes from its social demographic issues and America loses its superpower status under its massive debt burden and a rising China. It was a game of patience.

The ring of fire compromised of Hezbollah, Hamas, Assad, Iraq, Yemen and as a future project Jordan.

However, Israel got a gift from Hamas who went suicidal and destroyed themselves in Oct 2023. Assad couldn’t reunify the country and neither Russia nor Iran had tens of billions of dollars to prop him up under brutal Western sanctions, so Syria fell under economy collapse same way Venezuela did. The military and officials turned on their leader and stopped fighting.

Right then and there the ring of strategy fell apart as Israel poked a hole in two fronts and went on the counter offensive. The rest is history and doesn’t need explaining.

But Iran at one point was patrolling the Golan heights and the Lebanon/Israel border. So it’s impressive a country that nearly 1800KM away was able to patrol Israel’s borders. Can Saudi Arabia say that? Can Qatar say that? Can Turkey say that? Can Pakistan say that? No. Not even Saddam (the strongest Arab leader in recent history) could say that.



Neither Pakistan or Turkey would attack, both have serious issues in being in a sustained war. U.S. prevented an LNG tanker from going to Pakistan. What did Pakistan do about it? Nothing.

Do we really think Pakistan is going to war with Israel when it has to borrow money from IMF and Arab countries just to survive? Do we think Erodgan of Turkey is going to go to war with Israel when the Turkish Lira has lost 99% of its value against the dollar? When they have had to sell tons of gold on open market to keep the economy alive?

Neither Turkey nor Pakistan has the war chest or energy independence for such a move.

You can point to your fighter jets and your missiles and your fancy weaponary, but none of that matters if you don’t have money and energy to feed your war machine. War runs on molecules and gold, not weapons. Before the war, Putin had amassed a war chest of nearly 500B dollars. Russia can feed its war machine with its own oil and natural gas. That is why Russia is able to fight indefinitely.

Pakistan and Turkey have neither of these. And in case of Iran it may have the energy independence to supply its war machine, but lacks the needed war chest for a sustained conflict.
Needless assessment.
It will take decades for America to position enough resources in region to contain Pakistan and still Pakistan has the option to take down everything in case its existence is threatened.

When Pakistan tested nukes, US sanctioned us severely but Saudi Arabia was there to support us.Pakistan was already under multiple sanctions from the beginning of 1990s like no more loans from IMF/World Bank, Trade credits gone, No more American weapons, Pakistan not only survived but still declared itself a Nuclear Power instead of surrendering nukes.

If Pakistan can go to this length just for the sake of declaring its Nuclear Status, Pakistan can go to any length for protecting its very existence .
 
A. Nukes ARE haram
B. The U.S would justify the use of Nuclear weapons if Iran were to pursue the production of Nuclear weapons.
Having them and using them I guess are two different things I would advocate all Middle East nations capable of developing them to develop them Saudi Arabia turkey Iran and Egypt….shhuusssh I definitely wouldn’t trust UAE with it but if these countries have it or a couple of them watch how fast the world will try to impose a nuclear free Middle East including Israel with round the clock check no one tries to bring them back.

I highly doubt if Iran did go nuclear America would attempt to stage an invasion to stop them nor would they attempt to destroy Iran ever again Trump is almost out of here and whatever comes next after him inshallah will be far saner
 
No they are not. You know nothing:

The use of nuclear weapons on civilian populations may be haram. But the storage of nuclear weapons is not Haram. And the use of nuclear weapons on legitimate military targets is not haram. The use of nuclear weapons to protect Muslims from genocide is not haram.

Get out of here with your diluted thinking. The individual who wrote that fatwa is dead alongside 95% of his family tree, while thousands have died due to his attempt to buy himself into heaven.
You don’t have to call him stupid he just stated an opinion but I agree with you yes use on civilian areas is haram but it’s a nuke it’s going to kill plenty of civilians directly or indirectly that’s kind of the point of nuclear weapons mass destruction
 
The strait is leaky! IRGC failing in real time. Up to 5-7MBPD is leaving the SoH with US air cover support! Add in the 2MBPD from UAE pipeline bypass! FAILURE!

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The strait is leaky! IRGC failing in real time. Up to 5-7MBPD is leaving the SoH with US air cover support! Add in the 2MBPD from UAE pipeline bypass! FAILURE!

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still firing warning shots lol
 
A. Nukes ARE haram
B. The U.S would justify the use of Nuclear weapons if Iran were to pursue the production of Nuclear weapons.
Use nukes could be haram.

To have nukes as deterrence and never use it, it can never be haram. What is the wrong thing in have a weapon you never use it?

And all countries who have nukes, they never used it, except one.

BTW the first and unique use of nukes it was as response to Pearl Harbor attack.

USA has already attacked Iran navy, so they have already signed for nuclear escalation.
 

Strait of Hormuz will not return to ‘pre-war situation’, says Iranian spokesperson​

Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Esmail Baghaei says that the Strait of Hormuz will “never return to the pre-war situation”, Iran’s Fars news outlet reports.

According to the spokesperson, ongoing talks between Iran and Oman about the waterway have nothing to do with the opening or closing of the Strait of Hormuz, adding that the closure of the strait was due to “US sabotage and the naval blockade of Iran.”

Baghaei said the talks were bilateral and that discussions aimed at reaching a “mechanism that will secure our interests” were not new and have “been going on for a long time.”

“The Islamic Republic of Iran acts based on the interests and concerns of the country and will not change its decision under the influence of threats and intimidation from others,” he said.

Baghaei added that Iran “will not back down from its positions due to threats and media pressure.”
 
The strait is leaky! IRGC failing in real time. Up to 5-7MBPD is leaving the SoH with US air cover support! Add in the 2MBPD from UAE pipeline bypass! FAILURE!

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Wonderful. I hope 20 mbpd leave Hormuz and you can cry a bit more.

So Iran gets no Hormuz priveleges, is bombed to sh*t and has nothing to show for it? That's quite a country you're from.
 
Of course because attacking Israel, is attacking America.

Iran’s strategy was never a direct war with Israel it was a suffocation strategy. The goal was to build a ring of fire around Israel until Israel implodes from its social demographic issues and America loses its superpower status under its massive debt burden and a rising China. It was a game of patience.

The ring of fire compromised of Hezbollah, Hamas, Assad, Iraq, Yemen and as a future project Jordan.

However, Israel got a gift from Hamas who went suicidal and destroyed themselves in Oct 2023. Assad couldn’t reunify the country and neither Russia nor Iran had tens of billions of dollars to prop him up under brutal Western sanctions, so Syria fell under economy collapse same way Venezuela did. The military and officials turned on their leader and stopped fighting.

Right then and there the ring of strategy fell apart as Israel poked a hole in two fronts and went on the counter offensive. The rest is history and doesn’t need explaining.

But Iran at one point was patrolling the Golan heights and the Lebanon/Israel border. So it’s impressive a country that nearly 1800KM away was able to patrol Israel’s borders. Can Saudi Arabia say that? Can Qatar say that? Can Turkey say that? Can Pakistan say that? No. Not even Saddam (the strongest Arab leader in recent history) could say that.



Neither Pakistan or Turkey would attack, both have serious issues in being in a sustained war. U.S. prevented an LNG tanker from going to Pakistan. What did Pakistan do about it? Nothing.

Do we really think Pakistan is going to war with Israel when it has to borrow money from IMF and Arab countries just to survive? Do we think Erodgan of Turkey is going to go to war with Israel when the Turkish Lira has lost 99% of its value against the dollar? When they have had to sell tons of gold on open market to keep the economy alive?

Neither Turkey nor Pakistan has the war chest or energy independence for such a move.

You can point to your fighter jets and your missiles and your fancy weaponary, but none of that matters if you don’t have money and energy to feed your war machine. War runs on molecules and gold, not weapons. Before the war, Putin had amassed a war chest of nearly 500B dollars. Russia can feed its war machine with its own oil and natural gas. That is why Russia is able to fight indefinitely.

Pakistan and Turkey have neither of these. And in case of Iran it may have the energy independence to supply its war machine, but lacks the needed war chest for a sustained conflict.

I truly appreciate your perspective on Iran. Your insights contribute significantly to forming a comprehensive understanding of the situation in Iran, even though I may not fully agree with all your points.

However, your comments regarding Turkey reflect a misunderstanding of the country. Iran's military doctrine is fundamentally based on enduring damage and practicing 'strategic patience,' which is not the case for Turkey (or Pakistan for that matter). The depreciation of our currency was a result of a (stupid) deliberate decision made by Erdogan himself to win the presidential election, which will likely lead to his removal from office in the next election. Very ironic because for the first time during his political career, his foreign policy is yielding positive results in Europe, Russia, US, China, the Gulf and even Iran. He is winning literally everywhere except at home.

Also, just because Turkey has not taken military action in Gaza does not imply that we are incapable of doing so. During the height of the Cold War, Turkey did intervene militarily in Cyprus and established a new Turkish state on "White", "Christian", "European" territory. Additionally, Turkey's gold reserves have been fluctuating but have shown an upward trend for several years, meaning: these trades are not something unheard of in Turkey. You just fell for the social media hype.

Turkey may not have abundant energy resources, but it has a highly diversified energy supply, having pipelines from Russia, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Iran, and soon from Syria and Turkmenistan/Kazakhstan. Additionally, Turkey is home to Europe's largest battery storage projects and has rapidly expanding solar and wind power capacities, along with nearly completed nuclear power stations. While some Iranians may dismiss Turkey out of misplaced pride, the reality is that many of the initiatives you, PG, and Shapurll mentioned as necessary for Iran in the past and present are already being implemented in Turkey to strengthen its deterrence capabilities. Just look at Turkey's air defense program which on its own is nothing short of a revolution. The country is going to have one of the world's best AD networks on the planet in a couple years.

There are other layers, too. Turkey's strategic geographic position and its influence over/relationship with Europe place it in a completely different situation than Iran or any other Middle Eastern country.

Well, I appreciate your perspective as an Iranian nationalist, especially given the historical "rivalry" between Turkey and Iran; it is a window into a part of the Iranian society that I find very interesting. However, there are numerous instances where your views on Turkey are factually inaccurate. Let's be honest, your analysis is influenced by an Iranian supremacist viewpoint on top of being an American with not much sense for European politics, which is vital in all matters concerning Israel in our context. Many Muslims/Middle Easterners don't understand/overlook this fact. I could go on but I know you won't change your opinion even if faced with hard facts, however, all of these doesn't mean Turkey is invincible.

Our vulnerabilities may not be apparent to outsiders at first sight. That's all. To clarify, Israel will never launch an attack on Turkey, neither now nor in the next decade. Militarily speaking, we are too heavy for them. Even Trump (!!!) doesn't follow Satanyahoo's wishes with regards to Ankara.

However, Turkish society could easily become distracted and overly focused on its own issues with the help of foreign powers while other countries establish "irreversible realities" around us. I am not bragging here but you need to be objective and look at the last 15 years of Turkey's foreign policy, military, defence technology, industrial base vs. Iran/Saudi Arabia/PGCC/Egypt's.

If the absence of sickness is health, then the lack of missiles and drones striking one's territory represents power in the Middle East 2026.
 

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