Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[OldTwilight]

Iran's President:

All members of the Iranian Shura Council have agreed on the provisions of the memorandum of understanding signed with Washington.

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تفاهم‌نامه‌ای که امضا شد حاصل خرد جمعی اعضای شعام بود و همه اعضا با آن همدل‌اند. باور دارم این تفاهم‌نامه مرکز ثقل روابط خارجی ما در آینده خواهد بود. باید بکوشیم دشمن را وادار کنیم به آنچه امضا کرده پایبند بماند. امنیت کشور، منطقه و هم‌پیمانان ما با این تفاهم‌نامه ارتقا می‌یابد.

simple , he said we should force the enemy to honor MOU ...

 

[030292]

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[Shags101]

Isn't she one of the biggest cheerleaders of jews in dems?

No than you don’t know American politics at all as far right as Trump pretends to be AOC is far left and doesn’t take a dime from anyone they actually did an audit of her finances she’s anti Zionist percent and just because your Jewish doesn’t make you the enemy most Jews in America are left left leaning and despise Bibi and his cronies

 

[030292]

Iran's President:

All members of the Iranian Shura Council have agreed on the provisions of the memorandum of understanding signed with Washington.

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Since the very first point of the mou is that ceasefire across the region, i wonder what would happen to the saudi's little coalition against yemen?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran's President:

All members of the Iranian Shura Council have agreed on the provisions of the memorandum of understanding signed with Washington.

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yeah, but Mojtaba said he disagreed but allowed Pezeshkian to pursue it

Mojtaba very similar to his father in his leadership style of trying to avoid accountability

 

[Falcon29]

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[Hassan Al-Somal]

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[Falcon29]

So it aopears no deal will happen unless Trump concedes at least partial control of SOH to Iran.

Trump doesn't have willingness to keep SOH open and back to pre-war state.

Gulf states will be biggest losers of this war. Israel is unaffected by SOH status quo and may find as beneficial to coerce Gulf states into normalization agreements with it.

 

[KAL-EL]

It’s not going to end with Trump though off topic but honestly if AOC runs for office I’m voting for that socialist

AOC represents a super blue district, but running for president is a whole different ball game, you have to appeal to people from all parts of the country that might not be blue.

 

[Falcon29]

yeah, but Mojtaba said he disagreed but allowed Pezeshkian to pursue it

Mojtaba very similar to his father in his leadership style of trying to avoid accountability

He is similar. I would call Trump's bluff, deny speaking to mediators or refuse to talk, and launch a few small scale strikes the same night. This will push US to making quick concession and wrap up a deal. Mojtaba leadership style is sort of buying time but that means no one will emerge with a deal or as a clear victor. Iran has choice between putting foot on gas while Trump is under pressure or playing long game hoping to get Trump to capitulate that way.

Only problem is if they get more creative at opening SOH or securing it while continue to degrade Iran's capabilities to disrupt trade at Strait. That's the danger of long game. Along with economic price to pay as result of sanctions. Former is scarier and riskier but potentially more rewarding. Latter is safer and potentially more realistic at bringing about some kind of stalemate in long term but also carries risk of losing momentum down the road.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Aziqbal]

Then we would have had this war years ago. The U.S is willing to start wars on the pretext of fake "Weapons of mass destruction". Do you think they would just sit back and let Iran develop actual WMDs and not react?

if Iran did not impose its self imposed sanctions declaring nukes as haram then yes

 

[Desert]

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So what they do ? they plan with the filthy moroccan zionist king to use his people as cattle to flood the spanish borders with at least 60,000 person ( young men, children, women etc) and cause chaos to spain and embarrasses em in front of their european counterparts and that will lead to spainards to go against Sanchez in the streets.

the best Sanchez can do now ( if he has the powers) to kick Morocco out of 2030 World Cup hosting nations and probably cancel any trade with them.

 

[Immortals]

So, what should Iran being doing now instead ?

Iran should be refusing to agree to any deal until AFTER the mid terms. Let oil truly rise. Right now the reserve still has about 8 weeks of buffer in it before US truly feels the heat and be forced to offer concession. By waiting to mid terms you make Trump VERY desperate for a deal and you ensure Republicans to get swept out and lose badly for backing Trump and this war.

Iran 45 years ago had this basic knowledge when it refused to negotiate with Carter and waited for Reagan and ended Carters political career.

Keep in mind Carter actually did a land operation attempt to get Iranian leverage (the hostages). Trump has yet to even pull a Carter and try to truly get the Iranian leverage (Kharg and Uranium inside Isfahan).

What do you think the strategy should be

Iran should draw a redline at the U.S. naval blockade. The biggest blunder was the de facto accepting of US naval blockade which is act of war in itself. Iran was too SCARED to challenge this blockade.

The strait is NOT closed and its LEAKY. If the naval blockade stays on Iran then Iran will target the UAE pipeline and the Saudi Arabian pipeline, because those countries are still selling oil to the world while Iran cannot.

And if the West doesn’t remove the blockade or at least turn a blind eye to some oil going thru then Iran will continue attacking US bases in the region.

What is U.S. going to do in this situation? Attack Iranian energy sites? That would be the end of Arab oil facilities as Yemen, Iraq, and Iran light fire to their entire infrastructure.

what outcomes can Iran achieve with what you think the strategy should be?

Iran can gain de facto control of the strait. And a TRUE removal of sanctions via a TREATY rather than some fake EOs that can be reversed on a dime. And by keeping FULL control of the strait, Iran will have a card it can wield to punish the U.S. if it backtracks.

This was an existential war for Iran and it’s treaty it as if it’s a Pakistan-India border skirmish.

 

[Kyussis]

if Iran did not impose its self imposed sanctions declaring nukes as haram then yes

A. Nukes ARE haram
B. The U.S would justify the use of Nuclear weapons if Iran were to pursue the production of Nuclear weapons.