Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

they exposed Natanz in 2002 but Natanz wasn't connected to the pre-2003 weaponisation activities (except to the extent that they needed enriched uranium to complete weaponisation). only in 2009 did the West learn that Iran had conducted research on two point implosion devices

They already knew for a fact that Iran was working on an implosion device. We hired a nuclear expert to teach us the hydrodynamics of an implosion device. We bought high time resolution cameras from the Czech Republic to capture nanosecond photos. They aren't stupid. They have been through all this a thousand times. They know every step. They knew about Kalay-e Electric long before 2009. They knew about our entire chain of equipment acquisitions, even David Albright knew all of this before 2009.

the idea is to accumulate so much 60% HEU that they have to negotiate with us to make a new deal for fear we will quickly build a bomb

obviously it didn't work well

and I don't agree with you about Russia. they are a bad ally but that doesn't mean we are their puppet. neither east nor west is genuine for the leaders

Not really. 60% enrichment started after 2018. This case has been ongoing for 22 years. There was no master plan. You can think there's been one, but there never was any. Maybe during Ahmadinejad, some of our progress could be seen as part of a larger master plan, but certainly it wasn't so after 2013.

Then explain why it always ends to Russia. Why not China? Why do we learn about Iran's foreign policy developments from the Russians before we hear it from our own Foreign Ministry?

 

[Jango007]

I dont have access to the whole article....

Iran struck five Israeli military bases during 12-day war​

Strikes shown by radar data not made public due to IDF’s strict censorship

Paul Nuki. Ben Butcher Data Editor. Afshin Madadi

05 July 2025 6:01am BST



Iranian missiles appear to have directly hit five Israeli military facilities during the recent 12-day war, according to radar data seen by The Telegraph...

 

[Nuffle]

I dont have access to the whole article....

Iran struck five Israeli military bases during 12-day war​

Strikes shown by radar data not made public due to IDF’s strict censorship

Paul Nuki. Ben Butcher Data Editor. Afshin Madadi

05 July 2025 6:01am BST



Iranian missiles appear to have directly hit five Israeli military facilities during the recent 12-day war, according to radar data seen by The Telegraph...

link here pls:

https://archive.ph/ltdGy

 

[FUB]

link here pls:

https://archive.ph/ltdGy

The Telegraph is a Murdoch publication. A hardcore zionist to say the least. Why are they reporting what has been widely known or speculated with a high likelihood? The entire article is knee-strapped, balls across the nose, praising the awesomeness of the IDF . The real question is, why are they now telling half-truths?

"The new data were shared with The Telegraph by US academics at Oregon State University, who specialise in using satellite radar data to detect bomb damage in war zones.

It suggests five previously unreported military facilities were hit by six Iranian missiles in the north, south and centre of Israel, including a major air base, an intelligence gathering centre and a logistics base.
Approached by The Telegraph on Friday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it would not comment on missile interception rates or damage to its bases.
“What we can say is that all relevant units maintained functional continuity throughout the operation,” said a spokesman.
The strikes on the military facilities are in addition to 36 others known to have pierced Israeli air-defence systems, causing significant damage to residential and industrial infrastructure."

 

[Sultan Baybars]

The best leader Iran got:

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[Persian Gulf]

I dont have access to the whole article....

Iran struck five Israeli military bases during 12-day war​

Strikes shown by radar data not made public due to IDF’s strict censorship

Paul Nuki. Ben Butcher Data Editor. Afshin Madadi

05 July 2025 6:01am BST



Iranian missiles appear to have directly hit five Israeli military facilities during the recent 12-day war, according to radar data seen by The Telegraph...

I posted the full article many pages back

 

[Persian Gulf]

The best leader Iran got:

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unfortunately he wasted political capital on stupid debates like insisting there are no gay people in Iran and the holocaust maybe didn't happen

 

[Persian Gulf]

worth noting Khamenei appeared without a cane today

his time in the tunnels made him stronger lol

 

[StrategicBear]

they exposed Natanz in 2002 but Natanz wasn't connected to the pre-2003 weaponisation activities (except to the extent that they needed enriched uranium to complete weaponisation). only in 2009 did the West learn that Iran had conducted research on two point implosion devices


the idea is to accumulate so much 60% HEU that they have to negotiate with us to make a new deal for fear we will quickly build a bomb

obviously it didn't work well

and I don't agree with you about Russia. they are a bad ally but that doesn't mean we are their puppet. neither east nor west is genuine for the leaders

It didn't work well because Iranian leaders forgot that Western leaders also love using War and Violence to advance their Geopolitical Interests, with Diplomacy a smokescreen and unreliable alternative at best. The world is pretty much lawless, with rules set by those on top applied to only those on the bottom. Iranian leaders fail to adopt a more Machiavellianistic Realpolitik approach to international relationships by focusing more on Force, like how NKs did to successfully build Nukes.

 

[ShapurII]

unfortunately he wasted political capital on stupid debates like insisting there are no gay people in Iran and the holocaust maybe didn't happen

The holocaust story is the legitimacy of the state of Israel in the West.
I don't think his mentioning of the flaws of the Holocaust logic to justify the occupation of Palestine was wrong. If anything, it won Iran millions of supporters around the world.

 

[ShapurII]

Reports of internet blackout in Iran

Israeli attack is imminent?

 

[BigMela2onin]

Reports of internet blackout in Iran

Israeli attack is imminent?

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[ShapurII]

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I don't know. There are reports that they have switched to national intranet again.
A lot of Iranians can no longer open websites that are hosted outside of Iran.

It seems that it's widespread. At least, NetBlocks claim so:

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Internet activity has dropped to below 20%.

 

[Persian Gulf]

The holocaust story is the legitimacy of the state of Israel in the West.
I don't think his mentioning of the flaws of the Holocaust logic to justify the occupation of Palestine was wrong. If anything, it won Iran millions of supporters around the world.

yes but he didn't present some compelling counter argument and it's strange for a Muslim leader to focus on this issue and gave a lot of ammunition to the opposing lobbies in the West to caricature him

 

[Persian Gulf]

Reports of internet blackout in Iran

Israeli attack is imminent?

if an attack was imminent IRI would be the last ones to realise it or do anything in advance so we can safely exclude that possibility