LeonBlack08
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I agree.Bangldeshis are making a crucial misake that they think supporting Hasina and BAL was a BJP policy. 1/11, 2008 election, 2009 BDR killings, 2013 election all took place during Congress rule.
We should not incorrectly minimize the problem, the problem is the policy of India as a state, not of BJP or Congress.
They are completely correct for filing it as "Genocide" per the legal definition of Genocide in accordance with United Nations Genocide Convention.
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1. It was BD Muslims mainly killing some BD Muslims. You cannot commite genocide against your ethnic and religious group.
2. There is nowhere near enough people that were killed to even think about genocide even if they were a different ethnic/religious group to those that did the killing. A court would never think the numbers were high enough to merit this definition.
What is happening in Gaza is genocide and we do not need clowns that throw around the word genocide loosely and make BD a laughing stock of a country. Image matters. and this is not helping.
Doesn't matter who killing who - you cannot project your interpretation of the definition on the law. Besides argument can be made that secular institutes (BD govt, police and RAB) killed a religious group i.e. Hefajat- who are a non-political religious group. As long as the criteria is met and they can prove the intent, they can try their case in whatever approach they feel the best.
As for death toll - the case of Uyghurs in China are categorized under genocide, even though the death toll is only about 200. Plus the dehumanization accusations i.e. re-education camps, sterilizations and restrictions on religious symbols. Same argument could be used by Hefajot whose members were killed, abducted, illegally imprisoned and raids conducted in their homes and madrassahs to harrass, violating their rights.
Let Hefajat's lawyers figure that out how they want to prove it in court. They are clearly operting with more information than we are.
I agree.
I believe Indian eshtablishment is just accustomed to overestimating their weight. Just futilely trying to put on the boot of British colony.
From outside it just seems, India’s diplomacy is controlled by it’s intelligence agencies, rather the diplomats.
Or may be there is little to no difference between them on thought level.
This didn’t serve USA well. It will be same for India.
Not only military but also socially & economically.Bangladesh in some ways could bee seen as a equal or greater threat to Union of India than Pakistan. Which is not strange considering the chicken neck.
Should BD become staunch anti-Indian like Pakistan, entire 7 sisters states will immidiately feel the pressure. Divert attention from the India/Pakistan border. Chinese PLA is also building up infrastructure along its border in the very same area.
Arguably, India is far more vulnerable in the north west, than along its western border.
Same type of 'typical' narrative we also encountered in this forum from most Indian members.
Well, well, well! Another big fish is kicked out. Rear Admiral Sholail has been sent to compulsory retirement. This is one of Hassina's thug that served in DGFI and RAB.
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@LeonBlack08 @Bengal71 @AbuShalehRumi @Arthur @Alter_Ego
Let us worry about our country, you worry about yours.
In case you and your fellow Shanghi Bhakts still don't get it, you are not welcome here.
You lot can open a thread in the Indian section and cry your heart out for losing your beloved pet.
Perhaps you are right, although it sticks in my throat to agree even partially.Bangldeshis are making a crucial misake that they think supporting Hasina and BAL was a BJP policy. 1/11, 2008 election, 2009 BDR killings, 2013 election all took place during Congress rule.
We should not incorrectly minimize the problem, the problem is the policy of India as a state, not of BJP or Congress.
I posted in detail, perhaps it missed your notice.![]()
Was Bangladesh India’s Latest Intelligence Failure?
There are three possible explanations for why the Indian government misread the situation in Bangladesh so catastrophically.m.thewire.in
@Joe Shearer @Nilgiri, thoughts?
This is a feature of the kind of ill-organised administration of the present regime, when the professionals are not allowed to do their jobs, and other unconnected individuals given a freedom to interfere.From outside it just seems, India’s diplomacy is controlled by it’s intelligence agencies, rather the diplomats.
Very alarming not only for India, but also the subcontinent in whole.This is a feature of the kind of ill-organised administration of the present regime, when the professionals are not allowed to do their jobs, and other unconnected individuals given a freedom to interfere.
Perhaps you are right, although it sticks in my throat to agree even partially.
Part of my reluctance is due to including incidents like the 2009 BDR killings, where, in spite of the random remarks of a single investigator, there has never been any evidence proving India's involvement;
Subsequently, the Ministry role was cut back to normal levels, and they were not players. There was nobody to rig the 2013 elections.