Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024

It is now widely recognised that India’s foreign policy towards Bangladesh, with its focus on backing the Sheikh Hasina-led Awami League party, has been less than successful. Most analysts have focussed on India’s backing of the flawed 2024 election results, as Narendra Modi became the first international leader to congratulate Hasina, paving the way for others to acknowledge the results of the election. It must be noted that, unlike the 2018 (also widely criticised) elections, the Indian ambassador met with the principal opposition party – the Bangladesh National Party (BNP) in 2023. But this one meeting with the BNP, the only one in a decade, also indicates how limited Indian engagement had become.
This narrowing of the Indian nation's interaction with political entities in Bangladesh was a blunder. However disinclined or lukewarm might be the internal reaction to the BNP and to Khaleda Zia, in principle, and on the formal level, there is no excuse, none whatsoever, to show such a biased approach.

The narrow range of official interaction, except between Modi and Hasina, is reflected in other aspects as well. The first major treaty signed between India and Bangladesh was the 1972 Treaty of Peace and Friendship. One of its key outcomes was the Joint River Commission, which is supposed to meet around four times a year. Its last meeting was in August 2022, after a gap of 12 years. Bangladesh shares 54 transboundary rivers with India, and river cooperation impacts almost all aspects of the political economy of a riverine country like Bangladesh. India, apparently, could not care less.
The blunder was not in isolation. Neglecting the legitimate rights of a down-stream nation is callous, and, given that there was a framework drawn up for attending to riparian and river-sharing issues, neglecting that framework and allowing it to fall into disuse is practically criminal neglect OF INDIA'S INTERESTS, and an open incitation to Bangladesh to feel irritated and neglected.

The rivers problem is not simple. when India built a barrage at Farakka, it was under the mistaken impression that this would help in flushing out the Bhagirathi channel, and reviving the port facilities and seaward access of the Calcutta Port.

The fact is that the Calcutta Port silted up rapidly due to reasons other than the supposed diminution of the Bhagirathi water flow. That channel, the Bhagirathi Channel, had been the main channel once upon a time, up until the reign of the Mughal emperor Akbar, after which, due to tectonic movement, the Padma became the main channel.

The old Bhagirathi Channel, represented by the present channel upto the Kidderpore basin, and then through the Adi Ganga (also known as the Gobindapur Creek and Tolly's Canal), to the sea, through a confluence with the Matla River (or, as an alternative, by way of Sandeshkhali. Subsequent well-intentioned but ignorant interventions resulted in the destruction of this channel in its upper reaches, where it struck out from the Kidderpore Basin and became the Adi Ganga.

That route of the Bhagirathi, from Kidderpore to the Matla, was the main seaward access route to the trading stations of Bandel, Hooghly-Chinsurah, Chandannagar, and Serampore. The point is that it did not depend exclusively on the upstream flow of the Ganga and its tributaries before the borders of Bengal; the strong Damodar-Rupnarayan river system annually pours a huge quantity of water into the Bhagirathi-Hooghly. Once the dams, five of them, were built on that river system, the disastrous monsoon flooding stopped, but so did the flushing out of the lower reaches of the Bhagirathi.

If such official cooperation was considered unnecessary, it is little surprise that India has said nothing about the political prisoners ‘disappeared’ by the Hasina government, some of whom are only appearing after eight years. The extended attack on Muhammad Yunus, which was perceived by many as Hasina’s personal vendetta against someone who was often seen as more credible than her, drew not a word from India. And now that Yunus is the head of the interim administration, the Indian government is left with few links, and can only resort to a combination of threats and bluster – that too outsourced to retired diplomats and security officials on the news channels.
A narrative directly showing the failure of regular diplomacy, excessive dependency on intelligence 'cowboy' tactics and a loss of resourcefulness in the face of failure.

The list of failures is long and bitter, and begs the question of how India got it so wrong. This is why it was appropriate that India’s National Security Adviser (NSA), Ajit Doval, received Hasina when she arrived in India. Other than our diplomatic corps, the one person most responsible for gathering information and briefing the government on how to act on foreign relations is the NSA, and thus he shares much of the responsibility for this turn of events.
An open secret. However much our bhakt members deny it.

There are three possible explanations for why the Indian government misread the situation so catastrophically. It could be that the intelligence gathering skills of our agencies in Bangladesh is remarkably poor. Or it could be that the intelligence agencies were instructed badly, and while their information was good, it was not processed properly. Or, lastly and least likely, that the NSA credibly informed the government of the intelligence and was overruled. In other words, either the NSA oversees an incompetent operation, or he is incompetent himself, or he commands no authority in the government.
IMHO, a combination of reason #2 and reason #3.

Unfortunately, the Indian public is not likely to find out what went wrong. This is because of the peculiarity of having built a formidable office and mechanism to deal with national security issues, but no real oversight. The Modi government elevated the NSA to cabinet minister rank in 2019, and we have a powerful National Security Advisory Board – a deputy NSA is now the foreign secretary, but most Indians will be surprised to note that there is no legal definition of “national security” in India. Although we have had a National Security Act since 1980 – to facilitate preventive detention – we never bothered to define the term.
What can I say?
What can ANYONE say?
In that gaping legal void, an increasingly powerful national security architecture has great licence but little accountability. Unlike most democratic countries, India’s parliament has no oversight of intelligence matters – unlike say the House Select Committee on Intelligence and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in the United States. Given the sensitivity of intelligence information, it is wise not to have public hearings, but surely a committee of MPs, which includes the opposition, should have a chance to ask why such failures are happening.
:sick:

Incidentally, this is not the first failure on Doval’s watch. As the government’s lead on border talks with China, the NSA bears primary responsibility for allowing India to be surprised by Chinese actions on the LAC. He is also the person who should be answering questions about allegations that a government agency may have murdered, and attempted to murder in North America, Sikhs with Canadian or American citizenship.

Instead, all we have is silence, and an Indian public increasingly worried about how we keep seeming to get it wrong, time and again, as if we had no intelligence at all.
No comment.
None possible.
 
Perhaps you are right, although it sticks in my throat to agree even partially.
Part of my reluctance is due to including incidents like the 2009 BDR killings, where, in spite of the random remarks of a single investigator, there has never been any evidence proving India's involvement; for that matter, there has never been any reason identified for the killings to be something that India/ the Indian establishment might wish for, and strive to bring about. How was that supposed to benefit India?

Also the 2013 election. One factor that must be kept in mind is that under Manmohan Singh, R&W was under strict monitoring and the kind of reckless adventurism on display never took place. During the earlier Morarji Desai tenure, a much earlier tenure, R&W had had its operations curtailed dramatically. While Manmohan Singh, and the intervening authorities between him and Morarji, never took any steps to reduce R&W further, the organisation was practically in suspended animation until the BJP came in.

The Indian External Affairs Ministry was a player only during the liberation struggle. Pakistan's Consul in Calcutta, Mehdi Masud, was detained (when the Calcutta Consulate staff flocked to the Bangladesh banner in their entirety) on the ground floor of the building where we then lived, but even though my father was a very senior government official, and we occupied the next two floors upstairs, we were severely discouraged from even human and civil interactions with the poor man. Subsequently, the Ministry role was cut back to normal levels, and they were not players. There was nobody to rig the 2013 elections.

Even if we say India had no hand in BDR mutiny, the 1/99 government and the subsequent support of Hasina to return to power is enough of interference for us to conclude it's an Indian state policy. Even if we say it was far less during the congress period, it was still interference.
 
Even if we say India had no hand in BDR mutiny, the 1/99 government and the subsequent support of Hasina to return to power is enough of interference for us to conclude it's an Indian state policy. Even if we say it was far less during the congress period, it was still interference.
Too little evidence exists, even if we accept this single occurrence - a single occurrence has been divided into two, but that does not in realistic terms amount to two different instances.
Nobody bears a brief for the Congress party, but pinning the tail on that donkey only shows that pins are effective, not that a tail exists.:cool:
 
@Joe Shearer dada, not sure if you are aware - last night India opened the Dumbur flood gates in Tripura for the first time since 1993. They opened it in the middle of the night and immediately had a devastating effect in Feni, Noakhali, Comilla, Khagrachari regions of Bangladesh. The entire region had been at risk of monsoon flood because of heavy rainfall. But the situation was aggravated by the sudden opening of the floodgates in the middle of the night when people couldn't have been warned to get to flood shelters.

People are extremely agitated in social media and directly blaming India. There was no consultation nor prior warnings to Bangladeshi authorities downstream prior to opening up the floodgates.

There is anticipation that other flood gates upstream on the northern side of Bangladesh will be opened up soon leading to flooding in other parts of Bangladesh. This highlights that BAL govt has done nothing substantial to construct adequate flood prevention dams in the last decade and a half.

Not sure if this was intentional by India to send some sort of message to the new government for overthrowing Hasina regime or just a panic decision to relieve pressure upstream - in my opinion, this is another diplomatic failure for India.
 
@UKBengali

UKB dada,

India will by in large deal with any BD government that is not anti-India and so best not to dwell on India's role too much, and just focus on reforming BD and then moving forward.


Nice to see you talking sense as always. Hopefully, more of your countrymen will see things the way you see it.

Regards
 
@UKBengali

UKB dada,

India will by in large deal with any BD government that is not anti-India and so best not to dwell on India's role too much, and just focus on reforming BD and then moving forward.


Nice to see you talking sense as always. Hopefully, more of your countrymen will see things the way you see it.

Regards



Comments here will not dictate BD relationship with India.

There is a lot of venting here which will probably subside as posters realise the criticality of India for BD economic development.

The BD-India relationship will become a little more balanced as in BD won't take Indian concerns as much in to account as regards, as an example, building Teesta River Project with China for flood prevention and water management in NW BD. This project should have been started years ago but Hasina delayed it due to India's concerns.

BD knows that it must at least have a working relationship with India as otherwise it will never reach "middle income" status.

No BD government has ever been hostile to India and it won't start now.

As another example, BD needs clean and cheap electricity and the only way to really get this is from the hydroelectric dams in India,Nepal and Bhutan. Good luck getting this if BD stays obsessed about India over their role in Hasina's government.

We will hopefully see a more balanced and sustainable BD-India relationship now for decades to come.
 
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@Joe Shearer dada, not sure if you are aware - last night India opened the Dumbur flood gates in Tripura for the first time since 1993. They opened it in the middle of the night and immediately had a devastating effect in Feni, Noakhali, Comilla, Khagrachari regions of Bangladesh. The entire region had been at risk of monsoon flood because of heavy rainfall. But the situation was aggravated by the sudden opening of the floodgates in the middle of the night when people couldn't have been warned to get to flood shelters.

People are extremely agitated in social media and directly blaming India. There was no consultation nor prior warnings to Bangladeshi authorities downstream prior to opening up the floodgates.

There is anticipation that other flood gates upstream on the northern side of Bangladesh will be opened up soon leading to flooding in other parts of Bangladesh. This highlights that BAL govt has done nothing substantial to construct adequate flood prevention dams in the last decade and a half.

Not sure if this was intentional by India to send some sort of message to the new government for overthrowing Hasina regime or just a panic decision to relieve pressure upstream - in my opinion, this is another diplomatic failure for India.
I would say Govt should take this as a hint as to what project to select next.
The local area also saw rain amount of 150-300mm in a short time, so it is not completely on India.
 
I would say Govt should take this as a hint as to what project to select next.
The local area also saw rain amount of 150-300mm in a short time, so it is not completely on India.

No it's not entirely on India, but investigation is needed to understand if they had given any prior warnings to Bangladesh govt to allow for people to be evacuated downstream.
 
@Joe Shearer dada, not sure if you are aware - last night India opened the Dumbur flood gates in Tripura for the first time since 1993. They opened it in the middle of the night and immediately had a devastating effect in Feni, Noakhali, Comilla, Khagrachari regions of Bangladesh. The entire region had been at risk of monsoon flood because of heavy rainfall. But the situation was aggravated by the sudden opening of the floodgates in the middle of the night when people couldn't have been warned to get to flood shelters.

People are extremely agitated in social media and directly blaming India. There was no consultation nor prior warnings to Bangladeshi authorities downstream prior to opening up the floodgates.

There is anticipation that other flood gates upstream on the northern side of Bangladesh will be opened up soon leading to flooding in other parts of Bangladesh. This highlights that BAL govt has done nothing substantial to construct adequate flood prevention dams in the last decade and a half.

Not sure if this was intentional by India to send some sort of message to the new government for overthrowing Hasina regime or just a panic decision to relieve pressure upstream - in my opinion, this is another diplomatic failure for India.
If THIS was a message, it was a message telling the world that India is ruled by imbeciles, who think that their bullying street-corner rough tactics will serve as a substitute for diplomacy and decent, egalitarian relations between neighbouring states.

I hope it has not escaped anyone's attention that the state is currently under a BJP government, consisting of some of the most striking examples of bigotry and administrative incompetence that the BJP has made uniquely its own.

I will not get enraged by this information, as every decent human being is bound to be, due to my heart condition and my high BP. Take my feelings and reaction as read.
 
@Joe Shearer dada, not sure if you are aware - last night India opened the Dumbur flood gates in Tripura for the first time since 1993. They opened it in the middle of the night and immediately had a devastating effect in Feni, Noakhali, Comilla, Khagrachari regions of Bangladesh. The entire region had been at risk of monsoon flood because of heavy rainfall. But the situation was aggravated by the sudden opening of the floodgates in the middle of the night when people couldn't have been warned to get to flood shelters.

They would do this because we humiliated and kicked out their maidservant. It's likely that the maidservant beg them to punish the people of Bangladesh.

Let's be straightforward here, they are neither our friends nor our well-wishers. They have been our sworn enemies since the Mughal era. It's time we grew some balls and protected our territory.

We need to adopt the policy of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" to safeguard our interests and ensure our survival
 
Some of the issues between BD and India is purely due to India being a federal country, where power is split between the central government and the states.

BD needs to understand that when dealing with India, and there have been issues such as this in the past where the central government just could not do something that BD requested as the local state government was admantly against it. It was not worth the political battle for the central government.

Yes India should be more helpful when it comes to water flow into BD but at the end of the day, that is BD's sole responsibility and it is not realistic for BD and India to ever have an EU-type relationship where borders are almost irrelevant.

BD receives ample rainfall, hence India cannot "dry up" BD ever, and so it needs to invest over the next 10-15 years in building its own water retention and control infrastructure and then what India does becomes less relevant to it.

Of course, it will lead to loss of 1000s of square kms of villages and farmland but that should not really be a problem as the population in the countryside gradually moves to towns and cities, and it will just mean BD produces more fish and less land-based agricultural products.
 
Off topic but related to the flood in BD last night -
A Bangladeshi hacking group hacked Zee media site after a news was published with provocative title mocking the flood victims in BD. Zee news had since changed the headline, but nonetheless got the attention of these hackers.

This reflects the anger amongst general public against India. This is not a product of just this flood but a combination of everything. Likewise, Indian media's attitude is reflective of the majority Indian sentiment about the people of Bangladesh.

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This was the initial insensitive and inappropriate title. It basically translates to India let the flood gate open and Bangladesh is drowning and begging. Can't believe a "professional" outlet posted something like this.

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Off topic but related to the flood in BD last night -
A Bangladeshi hacking group hacked Zee media site after a news was published with provocative title mocking the flood victims in BD. Zee news had since changed the headline, but nonetheless got the attention of these hackers.

This reflects the anger amongst general public against India. This is not a product of just this flood but a combination of everything. Likewise, Indian media's attitude is reflective of the majority Indian sentiment about the people of Bangladesh.

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This was the initial insensitive and inappropriate title. It basically translates to India let the flood gate open and Bangladesh is drowning and begging. Can't believe a "professional" outlet posted something like this.

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I am disgusted, yet not surprised, by this caption, and separately, painfully disgusted that the apparent creator was a Bengali.

Please know that the owner of Zee TV is himself a member of the RSS, is very much a member of the ruling establishment and is a grating personality - this is a public forum and to describe the individual fully would breach decorum - nor is his son and the day-to-day chief executive much better.

After taking that into consideration, it is still extremely painful to find that a Bengali has lent herself to this callous exercise of mockery. It is a bitterly shameful thing to read.
 

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