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New Co Pad high-tech interior for Lynk & Co 07 EM-P​


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Mark Andrews

March 28, 2024


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Lynk & Co 07 EM-P Lynk & Co Co Pad system

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The interior of the Lynk & Co 07 EM-P sedan, which should start pre-sales at the Beijing Auto Show next month and commence deliveries in May, will break new ground in tech. Yesterday Lynk & Co announced details of the Lynk & Co Co Pad – try saying that quickly! It seems that the new car should coco with the rear seat occupants being able control windows, air conditioning, ambient lighting from pads mounted on the rear of the front seats. One has to wonder if Lynk & Co has heard of voice control!

Geely founder Eric Li (Li Shufu) bought mobile phone producer Meizu in 2022 and ever since the company has been trying to change the way occupants interact with their cars. Lynk & Co a joint brand from Geely and Volvo has been the guinea pig for much of the new technology and this is the latest iteration.
Lynk & Co Co Pad is a multi-screen interconnected entertainment ecosystem, which can achieve multi-ecological non-inductive connection and interaction between the central control screen, digital instrument, AR-HUD, mobile phone and Co Pad. Part of the Meizu drive has been to improve how people can link their own phones with the car’s ecosystem and so the Co Pad system uses Meizu Flyme Link and CarLink to help with connectivity between different phone brands and the car’s HMI.

Images showing the Lynk & Co Co Pad system in operation
It is currently not clear whether the Co Pad is a standard feature on some models or whether it is only a cost option. Equally the size of the rear screens has not been announced but they seem to be a similar size to the 15.4-inch central screen in the front which can be angled by up to 15 degrees either way. The Lynk & Co 07 EM-P also comes with a 12.3-inch LCD instrument cluster along with a massive 92-inch AR-HUD. This head up display enables three lane augmented reality navigation, intelligent auxiliary information display and parking viewing and allows a 2k ultra clear resolution with a very impressive 12,000 nit brightness.
Lynk & Co 07 EM-P
Music lovers are treated to an exclusive sound system developed in conjunction with Harman Kardon featuring 23 speakers, support for 7.1.4 multi-channel and power of 2080W. In addition is has Quantum Logic Immersion 3D surround sound technology.
The Lynk & Co 07 EM-P has Nappa leather seats and both the front and rear seats support heating, ventilation and massage. Massage comes from 8 back rest mounted massagers and provides seven modes with three strengths. Rear seat backrests have a metal backplate to improve support and protection.

Seat massage in the Lynk & Co 07 EM-P
Full details of the PHEV system have still not been announced but we know the engine is the BHE15-BFZ a four cylinder 1.5T unit with power of 120 kW. However the Lynk & Co 07 EM-P will probably have a 160 kW electric motor on the front axle with a maximum torque of 350 Nm, the torque of the combined system is 615 Nm. Combined range under CLTC is said to be 1,400 km.

Editor’s note:​

The Lynk & Co 07 EM-P certainly isn’t the first car to have rear mounted screens for the passengers the question is whether the Co Pad system actually brings anything new to the occupants or not. It is also questionable whether rear occupants are going to want to use these screens rather than their own phones.
The new announcement probably also gives us the best idea of what the interior of the forthcoming all-electric Lynk & Co Zero will look like.
Sources Yiche, Autohome
 

Xiaomi SU7 launched with 830 km range, starts at 29,900 USD​


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Jiri Opletal

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Xiaomi SU7 launched in three versions in China, with a price range of 215,900 – 299,900 yuan (29,900 – 41,500 USD). The all-electric sedan already hit 59 stores in 29 cities around China, and deliveries will start at the end of April.

Lei Jun, Xiaomi’s CEO, started the presentation by welcoming its competitors, William Li, CEO of Nio, He Xiaopeng, chairman of Xpeng, and Li Xiang, CEO of Li Auto, who were in the audience. “They all gave us many suggestions in the past years to avoid traps on the road during the EV development,” Jun expressed gratitude.
From the left: William Li (Nio), He Xiaopeng (Xpeng), and Li Xiang (Li Auto) at the Xiaomi SU7 launch conference.
Moreover, former BMW Group Chief of Design Chris Bangle appeared on stage praising the SU7. Xiaomi introduced him as one of the world’s top ten most famous car designers, as he was responsible for group brands BMW, Mini, and Rolls Royce. Now, he works as a Xiaomi Auto Design consultant.

“What impressed me is how powerful the SU7 is. It felt like a rocket horse. It would be a great car to have in Europe,” concluded Bangle in his short presentation.
It is no surprise that a BMW veteran joined Xiaomi Auto, as the SU7 is designed by the team around Li Tianyuan, Xiaomi’s Head of Design. He joined the company from BMW, where he was responsible for the BMW i Vision Circular concept, BMW iX, and the new 7 series.
Moreover, the exterior designer is James Qiu, who joined Xiaomi from Mercedes-Benz, where he took care of Vision EQXX design.

Lei Jun on stage presenting nine colour options of SU7.4 interior colour options.

ADAS options​

Lei Jun previously claimed that the company’s smart driving R&D team consists of 1,500 engineers and today, he presented the results. Xiaomi SU7 will have two advanced driver-assistance system (ADAS) options:
  • Xiaomi Pilot Pro
    • Based on pure vision, like Tesla
    • Nvidia Drive Orin chip with 84 Tops computing power
  • Xiaomi Pilot Max
    • Pure vision + lidar
    • The city NOA pilot-assisted driving feature will begin testing in April and will be available in 10 cities by May. It will then go live in China.
    • two Nvidia Drive Orin chips with 508 tops
Xiaomi SU7 also supports Apple CarPlay and iPad connectivity.
Smartphone holders on side.Lots of smart compartments for laptops, smartphones, and even refrigerators.
The EV sits on Xiaomi’s Modena platform, and its dimensions are 4997/1963/1455 mm (L/W/H), with a wheelbase of 3000 mm. The car has a sizeable 105-liter frunk and boot space with 517 liters.
Inside the car, it offers a fridge with 4.7 liters of space, good enough for 6 cans of Coke. Designers put lots of thought into storage space, and SU7 features many smart compartments for laptops or smartphones
The Xiaomi SU7 comes in three powertrain variants:
SU7 Standard 215,900 yuan (29,900 USD)
  • 73.6 kWh BYD’s LFP Blade battery
  • 700 km CLTC range
  • single motor, RWD, 220 kW, 400 Nm torque
  • 0 to 100 km/h in 5.28 seconds and has a top speed of 210 km/h
  • Xiaomi Pilot Pro ADAS
  • 400V architecture (486V)
  • can charge 350 km in 15 minutes
Lei Jun commented that the company actually loses money on this model and hopes they can count on the support of their fans.
SU7 Pro for 245,900 yuan (34,000 USD) – same as the Tesla Model 3 in China
  • 94.3 kWh CATL Shenxing battery
  • CLTC range 830 km
  • 400V architecture (486V)
  • single motor, RWD, 220 kW, 400 Nm torque
SU7 Max Performance version – 299,900 yuan (41,500 USD)
  • 101 kWh CATL Qilin
  • 800 km CLTC range
  • 0-100km/h acceleration in 2.78 seconds, 265 km/h top speed
  • Xiaomi Pilot Max ADAS
  • 800V architecture (871V)
  • can charge 510 km range in 15 minutes
  • AWD, dual motors with a combined output of 495 kW (663 hp), 838 Nm torque
The red button on the steering wheel can activate Xiaomi Pilot. Xiaomi si quite traditional in the interior, also you can see many physical buttons.
The deliveries of Standard and Max version will start in late April, the Pro version by the end of May.
 

Geely and BYD claim 2000 km range for PHEV systems​


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Mark Andrews

March 28, 2024


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BYD Qin L to get 5th generation PHEV system

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Yesterday we reported that the BYD Qin L would be equipped with BYD’s fifth generation DM-i hybrid system. This system along with Geely’s next generation Thor system both claim that they can deliver up to 2000 kilometers of range when fully charged and with a full tank of fuel.

BYD Chairman Wang Chuanfu stated at the recently held 2023 financial report investor’s communication meeting that the BYD fifth generation DM-i technology would launch in May and would see fuel consumption reduce to 2.9 liters per 100 kilometers and that range would be 2000 km with full charge and fuel. DM stands for dual mode and is what BYD calls its PHEV technology, which first appeared in the F3-DM back in 2008.
The new BYD Qin L will be the first BYD car to come with the new generation system. However it should be noted that the best figure for fuel consumption of that car is 3.8 l/100km. It seems that the sub three liters level will be dependent on a smaller car than the relatively large Qin L, Fast Technology claim the smaller Qin Plus might be able to achieve it but that would seem unlikely given the limited difference in size.

Meanwhile, Geely insiders claim that the next generation Thor PHEV system will launch this year and that is has similar capabilities with a 2000 km range and fuel consumption of under 3 liters per 100 km.
Key to Geely’s Thor system hitting the sub 3 liter level will be a new engine which reportedly will become the most thermally efficient engine in production with an efficiency of 46%. For reference the current Thor system as fitted to cars like the Geely Galaxy L6 have a 1.5T Thor electric hybrid 8848 system in which the thermal efficiency of the petrol engine is 44.26%. Fitted to the Galaxy L6 it achieves 4.55 l/100km giving a maximum combined range of 1370 km using China’s CLTC testing system.
Geely Galaxy L7 which comes with Geely’s current Thor 8848 PHEV system
The new Thor PHEV system may debut later this year on a new Geely Galaxy model. It is known that 3 new models will launch this year including the compact E5 all electric SUV, a mid-size all electric SUV, and a mid-size PHEV SUV. It is expected that the latter will be called the Galaxy L5 and will be powered by the new Thor system. Price is likely to be below 200,000 yuan (27,650 USD).

Editor’s note:​

Figures of 2000 km range are great for grabbing headlines but so far it doesn’t look like BYD or Geely are about to release a car that can achieve this under the CLTC system. Even if they did, the real world range would be considerably lower given that the CLTC testing system is weighted towards slower urban driving. Presumably achieving the figure would need a careful balancing act between a high energy density battery, low aerodynamics and a small sedan. We will keep you posted if either BYD or Geely actually launch such a car.
Sources: Fast Technology, Fast Technology
 

Xiaomi SU7 received 50,000 firm orders in 27 minutes, undercuts Tesla Model 3 by 4,100 USD​


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Xiaomi launched its first EV today, the electric sedan SU7. Its starting price is 215,900 yuan (29,900 USD), undercutting the Tesla Model 3 base model, which starts at 245,900 yuan (34,000 USD) in China.

The company announced that 4 minutes after the launch, the car received 10,000 firm orders, 7 minutes after 20,000 orders, and in 27 minutes, the order book reached 50,000 firm orders.
Xiaomi held an opulent conference in Beijing, where it launched three powertrain versions of the SU7. Lei Jun, the company’s CEO, spent about two hours on stage talking about the new car, and the live stream had over 2 million viewers on WeChat. The CEOs and founders of three US-listed Chinese EV makers – Nio, Xpeng, and Li Auto – attended the launch event, and Lei Jun even thanked them for their support during the SU7 development.


Customers can purchase Xiaomi SU7 in Standard, Pro, or Max versions. They differ in battery, powertrain, and Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS). Two are rear-wheel drive, while the top trim level is an all-wheel drive performance version with dual motors.
Xiaomi SU7 Standard
  • 700 km CLTC range
  • 73.6 kWh BYD’s LFP Blade battery
  • 400V architecture (486V)
  • can charge 350 km in 15 minutes
  • RWD, 220 kW (295 hp) power, 400 Nm torque, single motor
  • Xiaomi Pilot Pro ADAS
  • 215,900 yuan (29,900 USD)
Xiaomi SU7 Pro

  • 830 km CLTC range
  • 94.3 kWh CATL Shenxing battery (LFP)
  • 400V architecture (486V)
  • RWD, 220 kW (295 hp), 400 Nm torque
  • 245,900 yuan (34,000 USD)
Xiaomi SU7 Max Performance
  • 800 km CLTC range
  • 101 kWh CATL Qilin (NMC)
  • 800V architecture (871V)
  • Xiaomi Pilot Max ADAS
  • AWD, 495 kW (663 hp) power, 838 Nm torque, dual motors
  • 0-100km/h acceleration in 2.78 seconds, 265 km/h top speed
  • 299,900 yuan (41,500 USD)
For comparison, the new Tesla Model 3 base model starts at the same level as the SU7 Pro, with a price tag of 245,900 yuan (34,000 USD). It has a CLTC range of 606 km thanks to a 60 kWh LFP battery from CATL and a single RWD motor with 194 kW (260 hp) in China.
Comparison of dimensions (L/W/H):
  • Xiaomi SU7: 4997/1963/1455 mm, wheelbase 3,000 mm
  • Tesla Model 3: 4720/1848/1442 mm, wheelbase 2,875 mm

  • The Xiaomi SU7 Standard is 30,000 yuan (4,100 USD) cheaper than the base model Teslas Model 3 (Highland).

In China, the Xiaomi SU7 will compete with dozens of all-electric sedans in the 200 – 300k yuan range, such as the BYD Seal, BYD Han, Deepal SL03, Xpeng P7i, or Nio ET5.
 

CATL negotiating licensing LFP battery tech to GM and to build joint factory​


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March 28, 2024


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Reports indicate that Chinese battery giant CATL is currently negotiating with General Motors to license battery technology using an LRS (license royalty service) agreement covering lithium iron phosphate batteries and will build a joint factory in North America.

Details are still thin on the ground but the battery plant would have an annual capacity no less than the plant currently being built by Ford in collaboration with CATL. The plant will most likely be in either the US or Mexico.
The agreement would likely be similar to the one between Ford and CATL. Under it CATL would be responsible for building battery production lines, building supply chains, commissioning production line equipment and managing manufacturing processes, while the capital expenditure of the factory is fully borne by the car company. CATL would not actually own a share of the plant but instead collect patent licensing fees and service fees. The technology licensing model means that CATL’s capital outlay will be less but the profit margins will be higher.

Ford’s battery plant is currently scheduled to open in 2026 and so if the GM deal does happen the resultant factory will likely open around 2027.
EV uptake has been relatively slow in the US compared to Europe and China with Tesla being the one real stand out. EV penetration rate in 2023 was 7.6% up from 5.9% in 2022 and is forecast to surpass 10% this year. With high projected growth rate the US market has a lot of potential. So far Japanese and Korean battery producers control 80% of the North American EV battery market with the market dominated by LG, Samsung SDI, SK and Panasonic.
The licensing agreement is largely a result of recent US regulations. Under the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act the US government will give a 7,500 USD subsidy to any EV produced in North America with 3,750 USD going to the battery producer so long as components that make up more than half the cost of the battery are produced or assembled in North America.

Recent US regulations relating to ‘foreign entity of concern’ (FEOC) mean that CATL needs to be cautious regarding US investment. FEOC mean that tax credits for EVs can be withheld if battery components or minerals come from a list of countries including China. All companies incorporated in China or in which the Chinese government holds 25% or more of shares are likely to be considered an FEOC.
The licensing agreement avoids the problems that a wholly owned or joint owned factory would entail. In the case of the Ford deal it’s believed that CATL benefits from a one-time fee for selling the battery production equipment and building the supply chain, along with ongoing royalties based on the number of batteries produced.

Editor’s note:​

It is noteworthy that both the Ford and the reported GM deals involve lithium iron phosphate batteries. These are cheaper to produce than NCM batteries and are therefore very suitable for producing cheaper EVs. South Korean and Japanese battery producers have largely ignored the LFP area leaving this to be dominated by Chinese producers, most notably CATL and BYD. Late Post states that CATL has reduced the cost of such batteries to 400 yuan (55 USD) per kWh versus 600 yuan (83 USD) for NCM batteries.
Sources: Late Post, IT Home,
 

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Indonesia is among the first in the world to have this car.

This is a very good-looking car, it's on my buying list.

The exterior is good, but the interior is quite flat, lacking buttons.

I think China really need pay more attention to the design and more local oriented product.
 

Live – Chery challenge 2000 km range in a PHEV​


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March 29, 2024


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Chery Fulwin A8 Pro sedan

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Two things you can be sure of about in the Chinese EV world are how fast moving it is and that one company will always try to outdo another. Just yesterday we reported that BYD and Geely both claimed that their latest PHEV systems are capable of 2000 km and can achieve under 3 l/100km. Well currently Chery is trying to one up them with a real world test that they’re currently live streaming.

The challenge involves driving two Chery Fulwin A8 Pro cars fully fueled and charged to see whether they can achieve the feat. Both set off yesterday at 3 pm from Wuhu in Auhui Province, where Chery is headquartered. The route has 12 stages and involved the team driving through the night and is scheduled to finish at 9 pm Beijing time today when the cars will hopefully reach Yancheng, in Jiangsu Province.
To ensure transparency the cars were fully fueled and charged and then sealed so that the cars could not be refueled or charged on route. Furthermore the challenge is being live streamed on Douyin, China’s TikTok. Currently car 1 is doing slightly better having travelled 1214.6 km and averaged 2.6 l/100km versus 1213.8 km for car 2 which has averaged 2.7 l/100km.

Live stream screen shot from Douyin showing the Chery challenge
The Chery Fulwin A8 Pro uses the Chery Kunpeng super hybrid C-DM system, equipped with the fifth-generation ACTECO 1.5TGDI hybrid engine, the vehicle’s fuel tank is 60L, and the battery capacity is 18.3 kWh. There is an electric motor on the front axle providing 150 kW with 310 Nm of torque. Transmission is a 1-speed hybrid transmission (DHT) unit and the system combined power is 265 kW with torque of 530 Nm.
Currently the Chery Fulwin A8 Pro is not on sale and is due to launch on April 18. It is derived from the Chery Arrizo 8 an ICE car. Fulwin was the name of Chery’s first car and the name has now been resurrected as a sub brand for PHEV versions of Chery models. There is already a Chery Fulwin A8 but the new Pro version looks different with a more enclosed front end.
As yet no car company has tried the 2000 kilometers challenge and we will have to wait a few more hours to see whether Chery succeeds.

Editor’s note:​

Chinese car companies are getting very good at doing live-streaming events where their cars undertake feats to gain headlines. William Li did this with a Nio ET7 to achieve over 1000 km distance with the new 150 kWh battery in December last year. And the Chery event is the latest such attempt. However, it is slightly disingenuous as the result is not the same as a CLTC range.
In the early days of EVs in China you would get producers claiming that their car had a range of for example 400 km but when you looked more closely this was at a constant speed of 60 km/h and the NEDC figure, which China then used, was significantly lower. Based on the distance and time for the Chery test route the average speed would seem to be around 70 km/h and so even if the car does achieve the 2000 km distance, which currently it looks like it will, this does not mean the car has a 2000 km CLTC range.
Source: Fast Technology
 

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