Discussion: Assassination of Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran

[jauk]

That's the dilemma indeed. We don't truly know what Israel's anti-ballistic missile defense system looks like. And how many can they intercept. When you add the US Navy and AF into the equation, it becomes even more challenging to determine the threshold, before system is completely overwhelmed. We also don't know if they have replenished stocks since the last attack in April.

Iran can overwhelm the system without a doubt. But what happens if it underestimates its ability to do so is the question. Imagine 700-800 projectiles/missiles are fired. Iran wants to overwhelm the defense systems and hit targets successfully. Maybe thinking a small amount will get through, but actually 400 land and impact their targets. Then you have dealt a strong blow that makes them want to respond severely or invoke NATO intervention.

That's why it can be considered to allow Hezbollah and Ansarallah to have a go right before the Iranian salvo so precise and immediate Intel can be had.

They can't. Please refer to public info in True Promise.

 

[jauk]

This person notes one of the leaks was from his non-Iranian cell line. For what its worth I'm seeing chatter he was using WhatsApp. Not sure where and how this was attained. Regardless, its still an Iranian security failure of the highest order.

He also believes Iran also retaliate very hard. Shrug:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1818870580495421490

 

[jauk]

I don't know

when Raisi's helicopter crashed we saw Salami and some others in a room with some paper maps and no SAR drones available

Salami and his ilk are not good references. The other guy (Commander of the IRGC ground forces?) was there too. What we saw was sheer ineptitude rather than lack of systems. I was the first to call that mess of a scene out.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Shahid Haniyeh's funeral in Tehran

 

[Dariush-e Bozorg]

Salami and his ilk are not good references. The other guy (Commander of the IRGC ground forces?) was there too. What we saw was sheer ineptitude rather than lack of systems. I was the first to call that mess of a scene out.

Who is appointing these incompetent people?

 

[ziaulislam]

Do you have any evidence for this or just your opinion?

Arrangement?

Seems very strange to have him killed this way when Iran could have done it with zero humilitation to itself by say 'arranging" an accident that does not implicate the entity at all.

This wasn't the first arrangement..it won't be the last


You don't need anything

Do you have any evidence for this or just your opinion?

Arrangement?

Seems very strange to have him killed this way when Iran could have done it with zero humilitation to itself by say 'arranging" an accident that does not implicate the entity at all.

You completely misunderstood the meaning of arrangement...what benefit will that give to Israel? Israel needs something for domestic consumption..

This satisfied both Israeli domestic population without any major issues for Iran. Whose main goal is to keep Lebanon in its influence

 

[jauk]

Punisher focusing on security failures and how these failures are forcing Iran respond militarily which puts it on a spot. I agree more or less. However, although we know why, he doesn't clarify why a military response to a security failure is not correspondent.

He concludes that a public nuclear weapon capacity will solve the issue which, I believe is questionable, because it's again a military option vs a security operation which contradicts is original position.

He also concludes that working on and improving security will fall short against Zionia's 75 years of experience in this.

 

[Lulldapull]

To the forward thinking Pakistanis here, Irans preparing a massive attack in response to this tragedy at some point in the next few days. Now that’s goin include launching drones and missiles at the zionistas in Tel Aviv. Here’s our chance to validate the Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Abdali and Shaheen missiles to see if they can penetrate the iron dome, David Sling and Arrow systems.

It’s a great opportunity if we can secretly validate our strategic systems against the best defenses there are.

Quietly send a few of each to like Tabriz and launch em from there and see if they hit their targets.

India will definitely buy these three Israeli systems. They already using the Barak in service.

Irans gaining valuable experience battling the IDF and NATO and US in actual warfare perfecting its drone and missile doctrine and we are stuck fighting jahil ass afghani and third class low tech Indians.

This is a serious problem we have.

 

[UKBengali]

To the forward thinking Pakistanis here, Irans preparing a massive attack in response to this tragedy at some point in the next few days. Now that’s goin include launching drones and missiles at the zionistas in Tel Aviv. Here’s our chance to validate the Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Abdali and Shaheen missiles to see if they can penetrate the iron dome, David Sling and Arrow systems.

It’s a great opportunity if we can secretly validate our strategic systems against the best defenses there are.

Quietly send a few of each to like Tabriz and launch em from there and see if they hit their targets.

India will definitely buy these three Israeli systems. They already using the Barak in service.

Irans gaining valuable experience battling the IDF and NATO and US in actual warfare perfecting its drone and missile doctrine and we are stuck fighting jahil ass afghani and third class low tech Indians.

This is a serious problem we have.

Problem is the US will know about this and throw the current rulers out like they did with Imran Khan.

 

[Lulldapull]

Problem is the US will know about this and throw the current rulers out like they did with Imran Khan.

Our strategic arsenal is totally untested, rusting away. Here’s our chance to stress test it against the best there is.

Our ISI should do this secretly.

 

[maverick]

Our strategic arsenal is totally untested, rusting away. Here’s our chance to stress test it against the best there is.

Our ISI should do this secretly.

ISI should do it openly on PTI Supporters, which means 90% of Pakistanis. Thats what they are good at. World top shuper duper spy agency.

 

[last-soul]

Our strategic arsenal is totally untested, rusting away. Here’s our chance to stress test it against the best there is.

Our ISI should do this secretly.

Even better - send over the weapons to Iran, ask them to paint them over I.e..no livery and launch them!! The baby killers won't know!

 

[Lulldapull]

Even better - send over the weapons to Iran, ask them to paint them over I.e..no livery and launch them!!

Send 5 of each type and see if they get thru. It’ll be the real deal. I bet you money India is negotiating buying all three iron dome/ David sling and Arrow. Already India/Israel defense trade exceeds $5 billion annually

 

[Guynextdoor]

Was listening to Haider Mehdi and he mentions the
attacker was an Indian. He even mentions that
Kulbhosan Yadav even came to Pakistan from Iran.

Iranians need to watch out for Indians as they are very
close to Israel. Watch this program from 6.30.

why don't you declare that narinder moody did the attack Kuch Bhi

 

[maverick]

The attack was with a spike missile
View attachment 57583

From the footage of the damage, it does not seem like a Cruise missile attack but ATGMs based attack.
The rumors in Pakistani circle is that the assassination was carried out by Indian embassy RAW agents who work for Mossad, and they carried out the assassination... which seems consistent with the fact that it was not a cruise missile attack but an ATGM ... Lets see what the iranian forensic will find from this site.