Gaza-Israel Conflict | 2023-2024

[VCheng]

The massacre in Gaza is taking place with the help of all civilians.
And man we will remember it. Same rapes, stabbing, beating, spitting, bombing, slaughter. You think we will forget. This war has made me half kafir really. Now I don't have any mercy left in me.

Please calm down. Otherwise you may be taking a rest from this thread for a cooling off period.

 

[VCheng]

The USA and West have looked after their own interests


It's the ARABS who are at fault


We need to change that now, ànd ensure the hatred for Israel is translated into tangible pressure

The world is changing and we need to make use of it

Well, the world is waiting for some actions to back up such noble sentiments.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

more goods news and one was a American

https://twitter.com/x/status/1742904141687451656

Are you sure about this? This pic is from 2007 These guys are old men now.

File:Two 19th Group Special Forces Soldiers in Babil Province Iraq.jpg - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Something this blatantly bad gives zero credibility to this Arnoud van Doorn guy:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1742440100322009299

Looks like this guy did the same thing

https://twitter.com/x/status/1742307807095935012

It says

The death of General John Bigree, commander of the American Delta Special Tasks Battalion participating in the #Gaza_War

But there is no record of any General John Bigree anywhere..go look for his name in Google yourself.

Let Me Google That

For all those people that find it more convenient to bother you with their question than to google it for themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

Maybe his name is mis-translated. But geez if you want to report some big news at least get the names correct...sheesh!

Things like this are why I try and stay away from reading the Gaza/Ukraine threads as all sides just repeatedly do juvenile stuff like this.

 

[Lehrasap]

As a Palestinian, I fully understand your emotions. With that said, we would be no better than them if we resort to their same genocidal actions. It is sickening though that their civilian population sees no issue with the crimes being committed against the Palestinian people. i used to think they were just brainwashed. Now I believe they are just sick in the head believing it to be justified from debating these people. They know the truth of what’s going on but choose to justify the genocidal actions by blaming it on any resistance to occupation and oppression. Their blind hatred for Palestinians who just want to live in their land is just sickening.

Exactly the same is true about the Palestinian civilians too.
Unfortunately, it seems the majority of the Palestinian people also didn't accept Israel's right to exist. Unfortunately, extremist Hamas also rules the affairs in Gaza, just like extremist Israelis rule the affairs in Israel under Netanyahu.

Do you think the majority of Palestinians were against the killings of Israeli civilians in suicide bombings and then other attacks by Hamas? Or do they celebrate it? Just look at videos of how Palestinian civilians were celebrating the killings of Israeli civilians after the recent Hamas attack, instead of OPENLY criticizing and condemning Hamas for it.

 

[newb3e]

Exactly the same is true about the Palestinian civilians too.
Unfortunately, it seems the majority of the Palestinian people also didn't accept Israel's right to exist. Unfortunately, extremist Hamas also rules the affairs in Gaza, just like extremist Israelis rule the affairs in Israel under Netanyahu.

Do you think the majority of Palestinians were against the killings of Israeli civilians in suicide bombings and then other attacks by Hamas? Or do they celebrate it? Just look at videos of how Palestinian civilians were celebrating the killings of Israeli civilians after the recent Hamas attack, instead of OPENLY criticizing and condemning Hamas for it.

stealing houses,settlement is not jews right to exist in israel! why dont you go settle in antartica no khammmass or arabs there! take over all the ice there no one will care!

 

[Lehrasap]

stealing houses,settlement is not jews right to exist in israel! why dont you go settle in antartica no khammmass or arabs there! take over all the ice there no one will care!

This is how the world worked in the past.
All strong human groups, irrespective of their religions, were invaders.

Now Israel is a reality. It will always end in a war if you still do not accept it.

 

[StormOfTruth]

The operations carried out by the Palestinian resistance groups in Gaza on 3 January

Al Qassam Brigades’ operations:

• Bombarded a gathering of vehicles and soldiers in Khan Yunis with mortar shells.
• Shot down a Hermes 900 with the Mujahideen Brigades east of Gaza City.
• Together with the Quds Brigade, targeted a gathering of vehicles east of Al-Tuffah and Al-Daraj neighborhoods with mortar shells.
• Took control of an Israeli drone during a mission south of the Al-Zaytoun neighborhood in Gaza City.
• Targeted vehicles and soldiers with mortar shells east of the Al-Tuffah and Al-Daraj neighborhoods in Gaza City again.
• Targeted a tank with an Al-Yassin 105 shell in Sheikh Ajlin in Gaza City.
• Targeted a command headquarters and soldiers east of Jabal al-Rais with mortar shells.
• Targeted a bulldozer and tank with a “Shuath” device and an “Al-Yassin 105” shell east of the Al-Tuffah neighborhood in Gaza City.
• Targeted a D9 bulldozer with an Al-Yassin 105 shell east of Khan Yunis.
• Detonated two anti-personnel devices among an infantry force of 7 soldiers east of Khuza’a in the southern Gaza Strip, causing deaths and injuries.
• Targeted a tank with an Al-Yassin 105 shell in Khan Yunis.
• Together with the Mujahideen Brigades, launched a surface-to-air missile towards a helicopter east of Khan Yunis.
• Targeted a Merkava tank with an Al-Yassin 105 shell in Khan Yunis.
• Detonated an anti-personnel device among a group of soldiers in Khan Yunis, causing deaths and injuries.

Al-Quds Brigades operations :

• Sniped 2 Zionist soldiers in the northern axis of Al-Bureij camp, confirming the killing of one and injuring the other.
• Shelled military formations around Imam Ali Mosque in Maan, east of Khan Yunis, with 60mm caliber mortars.
• Destroyed a Merkava tank with a high-explosive (Thaqeb) device, in the northeastern axis of Khan Yunis.
• Targeted a Merkava tank in the northeastern axis of Khan Yunis.
• In a joint operation with Al-Qassam Brigades, shelled a Zionist convoy with 60mm caliber regular mortars, in the northern axis of Khan Yunis.

Martyr Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades operations:

• Targeted a gathering of IOF soldiers holed up in a building, behind Barqouq Castle, in central Khan Yunis with an RPG.

Martyr Omar Al-Qassem Brigades operations:

• Clashed with IOF forces, east of the al-Bureij camp, and inflicted deaths and injuries.
• Sniped a Zionist soldier in the vicinity of the Sheikh Radwan market in Gaza City and confirmed a direct hit.
• Launched an RPG at one of the military vehicles penetrating east of Al-Maghazi camp, hitting it directly.
• Downed an IOF reconnaissance drone belonging to the special force, on the northern outskirts of the Al-Shati camp.
• Lured a Zionist infantry force into a well-prepared ambush on the outskirts of the Al-Shati camp, where a land mine was detonated, followed by close-range engagement with the remaining members of this unit using appropriate weapons, with confirmed deaths & injuries.

Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades operations:

• Shelled IOF soldiers in Khan Younis city with a barrage of mortars.
• Targeted a military D9-bulldozer in the axis of Khan Younis, with an RPG, confirming the killing of its crew.

 

[Peregrine]

Exactly the same is true about the Palestinian civilians too.
Unfortunately, it seems the majority of the Palestinian people also didn't accept Israel's right to exist. Unfortunately, extremist Hamas also rules the affairs in Gaza, just like extremist Israelis rule the affairs in Israel under Netanyahu.

Do you think the majority of Palestinians were against the killings of Israeli civilians in suicide bombings and then other attacks by Hamas? Or do they celebrate it? Just look at videos of how Palestinian civilians were celebrating the killings of Israeli civilians after the recent Hamas attack, instead of OPENLY criticizing and condemning Hamas for it.

This is a normal settler colonial tactic.

Start with ethnic cleansing of locals and then be surprised why the locals fight back.

Let me ask you a simple question:
When german soldiers entered France, did the French had the right to fight back or not? Remember that germany never enforced a ethnic cleansing policy in France, unlike Israel.

Would the french resistance and french people accept a german state comprised of 70% or even half of french territory? Of course not.

You even fought and won back small provinces like Alsace and Lorraine which were under german control.

Why the do europeans insist zionist has the right to not only create a jewish supremacist state in historic Palestine, but also that it has the right to mass murder locals when they are resisting the ethnic cleansing.

 

[newb3e]

Your abusive language against me and calling me Jew (as an abusive word) is not going to work as it is not an argument.

You have then to prove that history didn't work that way and stronger human groups didn't invade other weaker groups.



The Sooner you realize that Israel has a right to exist, the better it will be for you and others. Otherwise, we will always end up fighting wars against each other.

lols okay jew! who will you cry when Muslims will finally first dethrone all the puppy dogs like ones currently occupying Pakistan and Muslims unite as stronger group and destroy you JEWS!

when germans were strong and bitchering your kind you cried when you fought back you made movies and called it resistance and now when Palestinians are fighting back you want them to accept you brutual jews!

 

[Lehrasap]

This is a normal settler colonial tactic.

Start with ethnic cleansing of locals and then be surprised why the locals fight back.

Let me ask you a simple question:
When german soldiers entered France, did the French had the right to fight back or not? Remember that germany never enforced a ethnic cleansing policy in France, unlike Israel.

Would the french resistance and french people accept a german state comprised of 70% or even half of french territory? Of course not.

Why the do europeans insist zionist has the right to not inly create a jewish supremacist state in historic Palestine. And not only that, but also that it has the right to mass murder locals when they are resisting the ethnic cleansing.

Why are you asking these questions about the past today?

Do you realise that invading armies also eradicated whole nations including all civilians and nobody cared about it?

Today the situation is different. Israel has not massacred Palestinians even at 1% of that level which happened in the past. Just look how Turkey massacred over a million Armenians and today the historic East Armenia is a part of Turkey (Anatolia) and no one raises a voice against it.



If Hamas wants to kill all Israeli civilians in the name of them being invaders, then certainly Israel will also retaliate.

And it is the mistake of Hamas and Palestinians who don't accept Israel's right to exist today. Once they accept it, only then comes the turn of Israel for its illegal settlements.

 

[UKBengali]

This is how the world worked in the past.
All strong human groups, irrespective of their religions, were invaders.

Now Israel is a reality. It will always end in a war if you still do not accept it.

So were the Crusader States but as they were never accepted as legitimate by their neighbours they got wiped out.

One even lasted for nearly 200 years.

Zionists were forced onto the Palestinians against their will and I would not be surprised if they do not last 100 years, as the balance of power in the world changes radically over the next 10-15 years.

 

[Lehrasap]

lols okay jew! who will you cry when Muslims will finally first dethrone all the puppy dogs like ones currently occupying Pakistan and Muslims unite as stronger group and destroy you JEWS!

when germans were strong and bitchering your kind you cried when you fought back you made movies and called it resistance and now when Palestinians are fighting back you want them to accept you brutual jews!

You are showing only emotional behaviour and never answering my questions with arguments.

There is a huge difference between Hitler and Israeli civilians.

Just look at Turkey which massacred over a million Armenians just in the name of doubt that they were showing resistance. Israel has not done even 1% of what Turkey did.

Today the situation is different. The civilized world is not letting Israel massacre all 2 million Palestinian civilians in Gaza. But that same civilized world will not let Palestinians and Hamas kill Israeli civilians to seize their right to exist as an Israeli state today.

Yes, Israeli settlements are illegal and the civilized world it against it. But it is not with Hamas or other extremist Muslims (including the majority of Palestinian Civilians) who are not ready to let Israel exist as a nation there.

 

[lightning f57]

You are showing only emotional behaviour and never answering my questions with arguments.

There is a huge difference between Hitler and Israeli civilians.

Just look at Turkey which massacred over a million Armenians just in the name of doubt that they were showing resistance. Israel has not done even 1% of what Turkey did.

Today the situation is different. The civilized world is not letting Israel massacre all 2 million Palestinian civilians in Gaza. But that same civilized world will not let Palestinians and Hamas kill Israeli civilians to seize their right to exist as an Israeli state today.

Yes, Israeli settlements are illegal and the civilized world it against it. But it is not with Hamas or other extremist Muslims (including the majority of Palestinian Civilians) who are not ready to let Israel exist as a nation there.

Your logic is flawed because you generalise. There are always nuances which you are overlooking.

Here's my generalisation to counter yours, the zionist land thieving terrorists are the problem.

 

[newb3e]

You are showing only emotional behaviour and never answering my questions with arguments.

There is a huge difference between Hitler and Israeli civilians.

Just look at Turkey which massacred over a million Armenians just in the name of doubt that they were showing resistance. Israel has not done even 1% of what Turkey did.

Today the situation is different. The civilized world is not letting Israel massacre all 2 million Palestinian civilians in Gaza. But that same civilized world will not let Palestinians and Hamas kill Israeli civilians to seize their right to exist as an Israeli state today.

Yes, Israeli settlements are illegal and the civilized world it against it. But it is not with Hamas or other extremist Muslims (including the majority of Palestinian Civilians) who are not ready to let Israel exist as a nation there.

to answer you might is right argument!

russia bombing Ukraine because it can is injustice!
Azerbaijan annexing Nagorno because it could is injustice!
ethopia accepting somaliland because its economically prosperous than somalia which might lead to war is injustice!
UAE/KSA seige of Yemen because they were powerful resulting in femine and death of thousands was/is injustice!
west allowing their bastard child JEWS to settle in Palestinian lands because they won the war was injustice!
India occupying Kashmir is injustice!

humans are suppose to act justly with each other and not like animals who use raw power to kill their prey!

 

[Lehrasap]

Zionists were forced onto the Palestinians against their will and I would not be surprised if they do not last 100 years, as the balance of power in the world changes radically over the next 10-15 years.

I don't want to go into the history of your Muslim ancestors and show you how they invaded and captured lands against the wishes of locals.

In simple words, invading stronger groups massacred whole populations for showing any armed resistance. Look at Turkey which only in the name of doubt massacred over a million Armenians and made the historic eastern Armenia a part of Turkey.

Today the civilized world not let do the massacre of the civilian population. That is why Israel has not killed even 1% of the Palestinian population. But this same civilized world will also not let Muslims to eradicate the state of Israel and kill Israeli civilians in the name of the invasion which took place in past.

It is highly unlikely extremist Muslims will eradicate Israel in the next 10-15 years. But it may be possible, if they don't reform themselves and accept Israel's right to exist, then maybe in 10-15 years, there will be no Gaza left anymore and extremist Israelis succeed in capturing it in the name of their security against fanatic Muslim forces.