Gaza-Israel Conflict | 2023-2024

[Khansaheeb]

 

[Sharma Ji]

Blitzkrieg, Firebombing ..

war never changes

 

[Unknowntruth]

Hitler would have been proud of the Jews and how they exceeded his barbarity with such speed.

Facts!

And if I calculate the Gaza population relevant to Ukraine it’s like Russia killing over 150,000 people not accounting for the people that are dead under the rubble. This is a genocide. You are talking about over 10 percent of the population are either dead or wounded. These people have no humanity.

 

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[Cryptonian]

Ukraine and Gaza are two different things. I don’t really want to sidetrack this thread by talking about Ukraine. What Russia is or isn’t doing is not relevant to the genocide that Israel is doing.
1. Ukraine has an actual military, Gaza has no military, defense systems, Air Force, tanks, etc
2. Ukrainians can flee for safety, Gaza has no safe zone or anywhere to flee.
Besides these points. How many civilians has Russia killed?
RUSSIA HAS KILLED 10,000 civilians as of November of 2023. In nearly two years of fighting, Russia only killed 10,000 civilians. Israel in 3 months of war have KILLED that many children ALONE. Ukraine is over 40 million population while Gaza is 2.3 million. Over 24,000 confirmed dead mostly civilians and thousands more under the rubble. You killed more than double the civilians in 3 months of war than Russia did in two years.

DO NOT COMPARE RUSSIA UKRAINE WAR TO ISRAEL. The civilian death toll from women, children, journalists, doctors, etc is far far far worse than Russia has done in two years. You have destroyed most of Gaza by bombing everything from schools, hospitals, residential complexes, un shelters, etc. You even bomb the safe zones you have designated to maximize civilian casualties.

Civilian Deaths In Ukraine War Top 10,000, UN Says

On 15 November, four people were killed when a missile struck a four-storey apartment building in Selydove village in the Donetsk Oblast, in an area controlled by Ukraine, pushing the total number of those killed above 10,000. Among these latest victims was a family that had been displaced...

ukraine.un.org

Your comment was not about human deaths but the demolition of the infrastructure. Hence I was not comparing civilian deaths angle , I was comparing the indiscriminate demolition of high rise buildings.

Difference is Ukis had a place to fall back and let armed men fight the urban war, but Gaza's neighbours dont want to let them in. Collateral is inevitable when Hamas fighters are roaming around in civilian dress .

 

[Unknowntruth]

We will need evidence from credible media rather than random from twitter especially from the supporter of Hamas.

The explosion in that videos seems similar to the destruction of the hamas tunnel, which is not civilian residence.

Once again, you can go on google and you can see the level of destruction Israel has done to Gaza. You carpet bombed the entire Gaza. Go look at Gaza before and after. What do you call that?

 

[Unknowntruth]

Your comment was not about human deaths but the demolition of the infrastructure. Hence I was not comparing civilian deaths angle , I was comparing the indiscriminate demolition of high rise buildings.

Difference is Ukis had a place to fall back and let armed men fight the urban war, but Gaza's neighbours dont want to let them in. Collateral is inevitable when Hamas fighters are roaming around in civilian dress .

When you carpet bomb the entirety of Gaza and your supposed safe zones, what do you call that? You have bombed schools, un shelters, hospitals, etc knowing civilians are in danger even using dumb bombs. You told people to flee south in a safe corridor and bomb those safe corridors. You tell people to flee south and bomb them in those “safe zones”.

No, stop lying. It’s not that they “won’t let them in”. It’s that you are bombing them so you can maximize casualties and force them to flee Gaza so you can steal their homes. Your leaders have been proudly calling for a second nakba, expelling Gazans, genocide, etc which you are actively doing now.


All these points from the level of destruction of you bombing civilian targets , your leaders calling for genocide and ethnic cleansing, and the high number of civilian deaths proves the genocide you are doing. Stop making excuses.

 

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[clutch]

Hamas took civilians hostages, are you going to deny that too?

It's easy, if someone attack innocent civilians, it's terrorism.

Hamas had the opportunity to attack only military targets, but they decided to attack civilians too.

It's not collateral damage like Israeli war actions. It's a deliberate will to attack civilians, that is terrorism.

They were being extradited back to Europe. It was a fortress Palestine program.

 

[Antonius123]

Once again, you can go on google and you can see the level of destruction Israel has done to Gaza. You carpet bombed the entire Gaza. Go look at Gaza before and after. What do you call that?

That level of destruction doesn't necessarily mean by carpet bombing.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Jewish member of Knesset gets kicked out of the Knesset for supporting genocide trial against Isliars:-

 

[Unknowntruth]

That level of destruction doesn't necessarily mean by carpet bombing.

Leveling whole neighborhoods is not carpet bombing, ok.

 

[Antonius123]

You must be blindly stupid if you cannot see indiscriminate carpet bombing of civilians as 10s of thousands of Palestinians lie rotting under the rubble of destroyed buildings laid to waste by US 1 ton bombs used by israel.

Credible media source please ... (the carpet bombing)

 

[VersusChristi]

Hamas took civilians hostages, are you going to deny that too?

It's easy, if someone attack innocent civilians, it's terrorism.

Hamas had the opportunity to attack only military targets, but they decided to attack civilians too.

It's not collateral damage like Israeli war actions. It's a deliberate will to attack civilians, that is terrorism.

My dear friend, are we to believe that the most celebrated intelligence agency Mossad does not have a HUMINT network inside a small corner of its backyard, that is Gaza? Am I to believe that they were not able to trace where these people were taken or kept?

I mean, Indian Army has its collaborators in Kashmir (a much much larger area) and is often able to know where the terrorists are hiding and goes to confront them. In all these years, it did not have to carpet bomb the entire valley.

It will be an insult to the intelligence of the entire world to believe that after 100 days, Israel is not able to track and find the captives with its massive intelligence network, its otherworld spy technology and spy craft and not able to recover and extract them using its next generation platforms and tactics.

We have NOT seen a single recovery of captives done by Israel. We have not even heard of operations done that way.

Its clear there is no collateral damage here, the intent of entire war effort is to flatten Gaza. Thats all. Its not even to recover its own citizens. The plan is genocide, even at cost of dead Israeli civilians.

And that is just disgusting.

 

[Cryptonian]

When you carpet bomb the entirety of Gaza and your supposed safe zones, what do you call that? You have bombed schools, un shelters, hospitals, etc knowing civilians are in danger even using dumb bombs. You told people to flee south in a safe corridor and bomb those safe corridors. You tell people to flee south and bomb them in those “safe zones”.

No, stop lying. It’s not that they “won’t let them in”. It’s that you are bombing them so you can maximize casualties and force them to flee Gaza so you can steal their homes. Your leaders have been proudly calling for a second nakba, expelling Gazans, genocide, etc which you are actively doing now.


All these points from the level of destruction of you bombing civilian targets , your leaders calling for genocide and ethnic cleansing, and the high number of civilian deaths proves the genocide you are doing. Stop making excuses.

Once a war starts these school/shelter/hospitals only become a "building". There is not a single functional civic body in Gaza which can stop Hamas from using those buildings , hence avoiding collateral is impossible.
Even Hamas ended up killing hundreds of people in the parking lot of that hospital while they were firing unguided pipe rockets.