Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Iran's FM, Araghchi:

Future of negotiations is unclear.

We don’t trust them & absolutely consider the possibility of deception & bad faith, it could be a trick—we should not be deceived.

Everyone should continue doing their work as if we are not negotiating at all, whether the armed forces, the government, or any other sector. They shouldn’t tie their actions to the talks. We will do our job; and we either reach a result or we don’t.

The country must run independently of any agreement, whether talks succeed or fail.

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Uh o....US left unexploded bombs in the territory of the TOP reverse engineering country? Big mistake for US and a potential bounty of US weapons for Iran to study and copy.

Unexploded US bombs at Fordow may also imply Fordow isn't as damaged as US(and probably 🇮🇷 too) wants us to think it is. Fordow in the first place was designed to withstand heavy bombing, so I still believe fordow was partially destroyed at best. Facility destruction is a separate but related issue from Nuclear materials or equipment destruction. US behavior and angst shows that it and israel did not destroy Iran's nuclear materials or infrastructure well enough.
 
Iranians are even more prone to boasting about their weapons than Indians. Iran finds it extremely difficult to produce qualified X-band AESA radars. To this day, the Bavar-373 missile system has only produced one set of X-band fire control radar.
View attachment 177542Now this radar has been destroyed. Iran also claims that the Meraj-4 radar, which is part of the Bavar-373 missile system, has a detection range of 450 km. In reality, this radar is a copy of China's 605B radar from the 2000s. Iran obtained the export version of this radar from Syria and replicated it, while falsely promoting it as domestically developed.
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Do you believe China is supplying daul use materials and components for Iranian ballistic missile program?

Also good to see Chinese here challenging views of Iranians. There is definitely something up with Iranian radars that struggled to detect incoming Israeli attack.

I do think China/Russia gain from having US dedicate lots of resources to the ME region to counter Iran. In the long term that benefits China. But even if Iranian government ever fell, the US would not withdraw from region. This is a lie the US likes to sell. It would adjust its posture in region to be more targeted against other states in region.
 
Even if there are intact GBU-57 in Fordow waiting to be picked up and reverse engineered, Iran has no delivery system capable of delivering GBU-57 besides transport planes which would be useless

Giving it to China in exchange of some technology or aircrafts would be good

As for Tomahawks, i doubt Iran has any interest of reversing tomahawk, it already have 1700km range Paveh and many other subsonic cruise missiles
 
I think you'd better be more polite. China acquired the exploitation rights to the Azadegan oil field in 2009 for $2.5 billion. However, the contract terms were extremely harsh. While it was supposed to be a joint development, Iran contributed neither technology nor capital; all development investment had to be advanced by CNPC. The revenue would then be split with Iran once the oil field was operational—essentially a get-rich-quick scheme.
The regulations also stipulate that at least 50% of the equipment and resources used must be from Iran. This means that the oil field must make concessions to the Iranians during the construction phase, while the Chinese side will bear all the risks associated with oil field production and fluctuations in international oil prices.
As a result, in 2014, Iran canceled its cooperative development contract with CNPC, citing project delays and non-delivery.
Why? At this time, the Iran nuclear deal was about to be signed, and Iran did not want to share oil extraction with China.
There was also the South Pars gas field cooperation project, in which Iran ousted CNPC for the same reason. Then, as a gesture of goodwill towards the West, it handed over the development rights of the gas field to European and American companies such as Total.
Then think about it, if Iran falls, no matter how much you bought it, it will be lost to you. You have just lost what you invested in South America, Panama, Venezuela, what happened to your investment! The next domino is Cuba!
 

Source: https://ajnews.co.uk/araghchi-spoke...srael-at-two-press-conferences-on-february-8/

Araghchi spoke more about US-Iran talks and Israel at two press conferences on February 8​


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Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi said today that the presence of the CENTCOM commander made no difference to the essence of any talks, having been told the commander was there to visit on of their own ships.

“There was a request from the American side for him to be present during what I mentioned – that customary, polite encounter that usually takes place – but we categorically opposed it,” Araghchi stated, noting that Iran didn’t accept the presence of a military official in their negotiating process.

Araghchi said that during the talks, a direct meeting didn’t take place, but there was an encounter out of diplomatic courtesy.

“When delegations enter, there was at least a handshake and an initial courtesy – this used to happen in the past as well,” Arachchi noted, continuing: “In all past rounds, negotiations were conducted indirectly, but regardless, either upon entry or exit, the two delegations would encounter each other.”

Araghchi said that it wasn’t strange at all coming across the other delegation during talks, stating that there was a common practice in observing diplomatic courtesies.

Commenting on the progress of the talks, Araghchi said: “I believe that if our conclusion is that this seriousness exists on the opposing side, these negotiations continue, but if there are signs that this serious exists, but the signs are faint.”

Araghghi noted that the continuation of certain sanctions and some activities in the military sphere created doubt as to the seriousness and readiness of the US side for genuine negotiations, but they were monitoring everything, and then would evaluate all the signs together to make a decision regarding the continuation of the negotiations.

IRAN FM ON PEACE TALKS:

Foreign Minister Araghchi spoke later to cameras, saying: “Why have we insisted on enrichment so much, and are not willing to give it up, even if war is imposed on us? Because no one has the right to tell us what we should and shouldn’t have.”

“This is based on the principle of negotiation of domination – we have the right to enrich,” Araghchi added.

“If there are questions, we answer; if there is no trust, we can create trust, but no one has the right to tell us that you shouldn’t have it because I want it so,” Araghchi said.

Araghchi continued: “Enrichment is important, but besides that, it is more important that the Islamic Republic of Iran proves that it does not take orders and does not accept domination from anyone.”

According to Araghchi, if there is any question, any ambiguity regarding the goals of Iran’s peaceful nuclear program, then Iran will answer, to resolve through ambiguity, and the only way is through diplomacy.

“They tried other ways, but it didn’t work, they bombed our facilities but the results they wanted was not achieved – knowledge cannot be destroyed by bombing – technology cannot be destroyed,” Araghchi said, adding that there is no other option to negotiate, and this is what the American team were told a “couple of days ago.”

Araghchi said: “Negotiations will only come to fruition when the rights of the Iranian people are acknowledged and respected and we can exercise our rights,” adding that Iran’s rights are official and existed, so Iran wanted their rights to be respected: “Iran’s power lies in its ability to resist bullying, hegemony, and pressure from others.”

“They are afraid of our atomic bomb, but we are not looking for an atomic bomb, our atomic bomb is the power to say no to great powers, and their military deployment in the region does not scare us – we are people of diplomacy, but we are also people of war – we are not looking for war, but we are ready to fight if we are challenged,” Araghchi warned.

In closing, Araghchi continued: “We are diplomatic because we have logic on our side, because we choose words, we are logical – if they choose the path of diplomacy, we will do the same – if they speak to Iran with respect, we will respond with respect, but if they speak with force, we will respond with force.”
Deep state vs .... very interesting scenario not letting in CENTCOM rep in negotiation ...nor US team forced Iranian govt to let him in only request ... remind me Trump old speech ....
 
The Mula sources claiming that US send a message "i will strike here in Iran, you respond with a symbolic attack and thats it we stop there" then claim that Iran told "No, if you do it we will inflict you 1000000000000000000 casualties and sink all your warship and sink the US" needs to be fired and not allowed to participate in any TV interview
 

A-10's exercising in the Persian Gulf - maybe to work out how to counter the drones, and small ships/boats that could be used for mass attacks ?

The counter of course, is MANPADS.
 
Iran needs till Spring/Summer to recover to pre-war state

By next year will have 3,000 missiles able to reach Israel

Israel wants to do repeat attacks on Iran to get it down to low level and disrupt manufacturing capability

It requires to have US missile defense nexus deployed in region to do minimize damage on Israel

At least for first, second, and maybe third time. After that, may be able to conduct routine smaller strikes regularly on Iran. But will still have to take account US interests in region.

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INTERNET INTEL - GROUND INVASION Planned To Seize The Iranian Oil Fields

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Last week, I reported that the United States had begun a significant deployment of ground forces to the Middle East by air, citing as one example a 747 operated by the U.S. Transportation Command, configured to carry 453 people, departing from Baltimore.

For this, I was accused of exaggerating and told there was no way the U.S. would launch any kind of ground invasion of Iran.

I can now confirm that the U.S. is indeed shipping M1A1 Abrams tanks to the Middle East, specifically to Jordan. (Image #2)

If the U.S. has no intention of entering Iran by land, why are we sending main battle tanks to Jordan?

I suspect the U.S. intends to seize the Iranian oil and gas fields. The map below shows that almost all of these fields are located in the far west of the country. (Image #3)

From the border with Armenia (where U.S. military equipment and troops are also flowing in) to the vicinity of the Kuwaiti border (where other U.S. forces are flowing in), and all the way to Bandar Abbas (facing the Persian Gulf and all our major Middle Eastern military bases/U.S. allies).

It seems to me that if we seize the Iranian oil and gas fields, the entire Iranian government will collapse within a week or two.

No long, drawn-out war.

This is just a guess, based on publicly available images and news reports.
 

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