Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

but we are going easy on Israel for some reason and it's dangerous.

Let’s do a thought expeirment:

A) Iran is going easy on Israel because of internal politics or IRGC planning

B) iran is going easy on Israel because it simply can’t strike Israel hard

It’s one of these two options. If it’s A then that means it can strike Israel hard as we have seen with the Dimona strikes two weeks ago. So it retains the capability and thus likely will use it when they want.

If it’s B then no amount of complaining will change the facts, will it?

Hence we can only wait and see either way. I also know there is severe censorship on military targets inside Israel. Many strikes don’t get reported as either intercepted or hit. No satellite imagery is released by anyone. This will come out once the war is over.

 

[ShapurII]

By such logic Ukraine should be in the Stone Age and have no lights on.

It’s very hard to permanently put a country’s energy installations out of commission for a long time.

People don’t understand this and think a bomb or two or three means game over on installation facilities that are the size of small towns.

If my memory serves me well, at its peak, the Russians damaged barely 60% of Ukraine's grid. They didn't fully obliterate it, but damaged it.

But even then, people had 8-hour and 10-hour power cuts in Kiev.

Russia didn't act like a genocidal state in Ukraine. They did hit civilian infrastructure, but nothing like what Israel or the US would do to Iran.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Yes, which is why it's bad for Iran. Because after a certain amount of time, a global consensus will be formed against Iran and we may get involved in a much more serious war than now with more countries fighting against us.

Our Strait of Hormuz card should not be overplayed. We are already allowing most countries to pass through the strait anyway, and some of them for free. This shows that we cannot afford to play this card indefinitely.


It is highly likely that there will be an economic shock and global recession in the near future. I don't disagree with it.


I am actually quite satisfied that we are rejecting off-ramps. This is the kind of war that we should fight it to the end, but we are going easy on Israel for some reason and it's dangerous.

Iran is not going easy on israel. Their interceptors are depleting. When they further deplete and the war becomes intensive as time goes on, Iran will unleash hell on israel with newer, more advanced deadlier missiles especially if they continue to mass bomb civilian and energy targets. Iran doesn't want to use all it's cards right now. Patience is the key. Right now, Iran must expedite the development of several nuclear weapons devices.

 

[SecularNationalist]

The American extraction team deployed A-10s and MQ9 Reaper drones to create a 3 km radius around the pilot so locals could not get close to him.

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Shoulder missiles are the solutions to deal in such a situation.

 

[SecularNationalist]

So any deal or ceasefire reached or not ?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Iran dont need to do it, Yemen can, Hezbollah can any other anti group can. In war all gos,

Maybe you should add in Russian pipelines for good measure too...

 

[Forsvaret]

…ballistic missiles doing real damage as part of an actual strategy against Israel is not work at all.

Iranian ballistic missiles raining down in Israel almost every night are doing some serious psychological damage to Israelis who thought of themselves as God’s chosen people and thus "invincible".

 

[Immortals]

That is the type of precision that can only be achieved by cruise missiles, and not ballistic missiles. Lesson for all militaries watching this war.

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Qatar gas facility hit by Iranian BM last month






You and @ShapurII need to stop being “Panicans”

Iran a country with military budget of $20B is fighting the two greatest militaries on Earth at the same time to a strategic stalemate per its defense doctrine.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

What’s the Chinese government and publics view on Irans retaliation against Arab countries hosting US bases? What’s your personal view?

Dubai harbours some of China's most wanted criminals, most folks here consider Iran is doing China a big favor and wish the pounding on UAE to continue

 

[ShapurII]

Let’s do a thought expeirment:

A) Iran is going easy on Israel because of internal politics or IRGC planning

B) iran is going easy on Israel because it simply can’t strike Israel hard

It’s one of these two options. If it’s A then that means it can strike Israel hard as we have seen with the Dimona strikes two weeks ago. So it retains the capability and thus likely will use it when they want.

If it’s B then no amount of complaining will change the facts, will it?

Hence we can only wait and see either way. I also know there is severe censorship on military targets inside Israel. Many strikes don’t get reported as either intercepted or hit. No satellite imagery is released by anyone. This will come out once the war is over.

Fair enough. There's an option C though.

C) Iran is going easy on Israel because Israel is a nuclear state and Iran is not.

But you are right. Complaining will not change it. It is what it is, but we have to find a way to overcome this limitation.

Iran is not going easy on israel. Their interceptors are depleting. When they further deplete and the war becomes intensive as time goes on, Iran will unleash hell on israel with newer, more advanced deadlier missiles especially if they continue to mass bomb civilian and energy targets. Iran doesn't want to use all it's cards right now. Patience is the key. Right now, Iran must expedite the development of several nuclear weapons devices.

No, my point is that Israel has only two refineries in Haifa and Ashdod. If you obliterate these two, there will be no jet fuel and gasoline in Israel after a few days.

Whenever Iran hits Israel, we do a cosmetic damage. We hit a storage tanker or something in that scale, instead of going for things that can render it unoperational for months.

 

[PakSword]

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[Immortals]

If my memory serves me well, at its peak, the Russians damaged barely 60% of Ukraine's grid. They didn't fully obliterate it, but damaged it.

Because they couldn’t. They have tried for months and years to knock out the grid. Then gave up. Then retired again. They have fired drones, missiles, bombs, cms. It’s not that easy.

Russia didn't act like a genocidal state in Ukraine. They did hit civilian infrastructure, but nothing like what Israel or the US would do to Iran.

Putin has tried his best to knock the Ukraine grid. He simply has failed to. Now his own energy facilities are getting blown off the face of the earth.

Right now Russia as we speak is facing greater financial losses than Iran, at north of $1B dollars a day loss of income due to Ukraine attacks on its energy.

By such logic, Russia should wipe Ukraine off the face of the map.

 

[Bharatah]

See photos and documents of an American soldier named "Amanda Rider," after she was found among the wreckage of a destroyed plane in Isfahan. The documents include an entry visa for "Israel."

 

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[Olympus81]

After attacks by Zio on petro chemical facility, the powerplants in the entity needs to go out of commission.