Not my obsession, but certain subhumans here
Well he’s right, unless you think Israel + US combo is weaker than Pakistan + Turkey. Many of you since Oct 7th were repeating the same that Israel has nato and the U.S. behind so we can’t do anything. The mental subjugation of Muslims before even the first round was fired and was really shocking to hear.
The U.S. had 50k troops in the Middle East and not 20k. They had multiple ACs along with the Israelis jets + the Arabs. This is commonly available information so I don’t understand why you deflating the numbers. The most high tech military during our time period right on the Iranian borders.
I’m not sure if you understand order of battle or the logistic trails and supplies to run a large force. Where would Pakistan get the POL to sustain the imaginative offensive against Iran? Will you divert the strategic stocks meant for Indians in order to get involved in a fight that quite frankly doesn’t concern Pakistan even with that bullsh*t defense pact or whatever that thing is.
You said unlimited air power? There’s no such thing as unlimited air power especially with fuel shortage, long range refuelers, and dedicated, modern air bases in Balochistan - very few exists. I didn’t even bring up the Chinese factor who will remove all support from the Pakistani military if they even dare to get involved with this mess.
Fighter jets engines need overhauling for each flight hour so the thought of unlimited air campaign is laughable. You really didn’t think this through did you? If Pakistan actively gets involved in this war on the side of the Israeli and Arabs - let’s not pretend they’re not on the same side here, I can accurately predict Pakistan will cease to being a “unified” country. Luckily the Pakistani leadership is much wiser than some random commenter on this forum.
A lot there to unpack but lets start with this, real world geopolitics is not some high school level games where calling names like "subhumans" work. Take a leaf from IRGC's page where they counter Israel-US propaganda with objective and clever analysis. "Subhumans" and "Supremcy" is also a very much Israeli extremist framing that you yourself have fallen into. Secondly, geopolitics doesnt have a side, every country has aligned interests there is no such thing as us vs them. GCC knows this, Pakistan knows this, China knows this, Iran knows this and even Houthis knows this.
The only people who dont know this is Israel, large parts of US and unfortunately people like yourself who have fallen for the Israeli framing. Extremist Israelis and Evangelical Americans believe in the Chosen People absurdity and hence they think that.
As far as your views are concerned, you seem to think that GCC is some magical spell cast by a Supreme Race (i.e. Chosen People) and only you can see this. The reality is that by believing this you are actually implicitly projecting that aura of Supremacy and have fallen for that contradiction.
Why you may believe that could be attributed to lack of knowledge, experience or just pure fear. Let me guess, you are also a PTI fan and an anti PAK army guy. Cue some whole hearted denials next. Before I give you the space to side track on PTI vs Army - let me say this - both have their good and bad.
Which leads me to explain the good and bad. GCC that you are so anti has some good, a lot of good infact but also some bad things too.. May be shocking to you. And IRGC that you love so much has also a lot of bad and some good things to.
Lets start with GCC bad -delayed organisation against Israel's genocide. Too much US influence and lack of self defence. Late resistance to US attacks on Iran.
IRGC has bad things - corruption, mismanagement of economy but also good things where they called out Israel's genocide more forcefully and not backing out in this war.
Now, lets discuss your China facts. Islamabad MOU was backed, and potentially even promoted by China. China's main alignment is return to peace. And China is very much involved if Iran stops listening, china will be all for it to leverage Pakistan to create a stabilising factor.
But IRGC are not stupid like your views. They know this so are playing a very finely balanced geopolitical game. They have to destabilise US/world econ without blowing up their own economy or its allies economies. Allies including China and Pakistan.
Pakistan has aligned interests with GCC, Iran, China and the US. In fact, the only country Pakistan isnt aligned with is Israel. When it comes to middle east war, Pakistan is even aligned with India. Before you get too confused, the point here is that Pak/India alignment comes in the form of energy prices. If oil market truly blows up most people who will die and suffer will be in Pak and India.
So before you get too happy with your high school games, let that sink in.
Which also means that Pak is aligned to keep the region stable. Since the start of the war Pak has issued serious warnings to the US (stop killing Irans leaders - the warning worked) , warning to Israel ( sending fighter escort and Islamabad embassy in Tehran redline) which also worked. Now we are at a time when Pak feels, rightly or wrongly, that the warning is due the other way to IRGC and Houthis. That warning so far has worked too and we will see if the regional meeting on Monday does take place or not but its a start.
If IRGC and Houthis do not seriously sit down to hash this out, that creates political support both locally and globally to take the next step. But Pak cannot expect IRGC to sit down with GCC if IRGC is getting attacked via US bases.
In this part, Pak has also issued a warning to Saudi who seemed to have got the message very early on and hence the Makkah Agreement and not the Abraham Accords.
Before you start hyper ventilating about Makkah Agreement, remember Iran and IRGC welcomed the formation whilst Pak and Turkey stressed that its open to Iran too in the future.
I know all this may be too complicated for your high school views, but there is no magical spell of supremacy Israel holds on anyone but the evangelical christians and dumb people like yourself.
I had to write all this to educate you because you wont find this at PTI rallies or Hollywood movies.
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