JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Manticore]

100th JF-17

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

JF-17 block 4

Radar: KLJ-7B digital array radar

Fuselage length: 0.46 meters longer

Cockpit: HUD cancelled

Fuselage: Add conformal fuel tank

Engine: WS-15, the diameter of the WS-15 is similar to the RD-93MA and WS-13E;

New ion barrier generator: the latest scientific research achievements of China's National University of Defense Technology, which can realize plasma stealth; The power generation of WS-15 is sufficient to support the work of the ion barrier generator;

The improved JF-17 block 4, with a combat radius of 1200km and a detection range of 300km, can achieve Mach 1.5 supersonic cruise, close to the stealth capability of the F-35, and exceed the comprehensive combat capability of the F-35.

Lol there will be no block 4 according to previous PAF Chief and you have lot of wishful thinking, JF17s is a light-weight jet and always remains light-weight jet and how do you put a heavy thrust class engine into light-weight jet then you need to redesign whole jet again from scratch and this takes lot of time and $$$ to complete

 

[Manticore]

 

[Manticore]

 

[Manticore]

Hope you guys can build a jft info thread. Good luck!

 

[Manticore]

Lol there will be no block 4 according to previous PAF Chief and you have lot of wishful thinking, JF17s is a light-weight jet and always remains light-weight jet and how do you put a heavy thrust class engine into light-weight jet then you need to redesign whole jet again from scratch and this takes lot of time and $$$ to complete

I read somewhere that the latest grippen is larger and carries more fuel aswell after redesigning landing gear. However this has led to increase in cost. I dont know how much upgrades jft blk4 might have, without prompting the need to straight up buy j10c instead.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

I read somewhere that the latest grippen is larger and carries more fuel aswell after redesigning landing gear. However this has led to increase in cost. I dont know how much upgrades jft blk4 might have, without prompting the need to straight up buy j10c instead.

Sir grippen E also has upgraded slightly more thrust MEDIUM THRUST ENGINE (F-414) thrust =22,000 lbs whereas @zen claims it will have HIGH THRUST ENGINE WS-15 with a thrust of 35,000 lbs or more how it is possible?

 

[zen]

The J-10 has been frozen and upgraded, and the J-10CE currently in production has been handed over to Guizhou Aviation Industry Group. The J-10 is China's fourth-generation fighter. Its next generation product is the J-35 and JF-17 is a fighter independently developed by Pakistan. It will continue to improve to meet future air combat needs. WS-15 is very suitable for JF-17, such as fuel consumption, size and production capacity. WS-19 is not suitable for JF-17, because the demand for J-35 is tight and its production capacity is small.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

The J-10 has been frozen and upgraded, and the J-10CE currently in production has been handed over to Guizhou Aviation Industry Group. The J-10 is China's fourth-generation fighter. Its next generation product is the J-35 and JF-17 is a fighter independently developed by Pakistan. It will continue to improve to meet future air combat needs. WS-15 is very suitable for JF-17, such as fuel consumption, size and production capacity. WS-19 is not suitable for JF-17, because the demand for J-35 is tight and its production capacity is small.

Lol WS15 is only suitable for heavy weight jet not for lightweight jet, if we put WS15 on JF-17 than it will destabilize the whole jet

 

[Oscar]

Lol WS15 is only suitable for heavy weight jet not for lightweight jet, if we put WS15 on JF-17 than it will destabilize the whole jet

I mean initially - the idea was to allow the JF-17 to be able to use the PW-100 and european engines but that’s just what it was - an idea. The engine bay was meant to accommodate different engine types but no homegrown mod type ideas - still significant redesign and weight/CGI considerations to keep in mind

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

I mean initially - the idea was to allow the JF-17 to be able to use the PW-100 and european engines but that’s just what it was - an idea. The engine bay was meant to accommodate different engine types but no homegrown mod type ideas - still significant redesign and weight/CGI considerations to keep in mind

Yes I know that sir but @zen is talking about WS-15 which is bigger, has bigger diameter and have huge weight compared to RD-93 WS-13, it's similar like we put f119 engines into f5 sir

 

[zen]

Yes I know that sir but @zen is talking about WS-15 which is bigger, has bigger diameter and have huge weight compared to RD-93 WS-13, it's similar like we put f119 engines into f5 sir

The diameter of WS13E&RD93MA is 1 meter, while the diameter of WS-15 is 1.02 meters.

 

[Yommie]

I read somewhere that the latest grippen is larger and carries more fuel aswell after redesigning landing gear. However this has led to increase in cost. I dont know how much upgrades jft blk4 might have, without prompting the need to straight up buy j10c instead.

JF-17 seems larger than Gripen A/C and smaller than Gripen E.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

The diameter of WS13E&RD93MA is 1 meter, while the diameter of WS-15 is 1.02 meters.

What about T/W rato, Lift/D ratio, shift of center of gravity, shifting center of pressure etc etc

 

[zen]

What about T/W rato, Lift/D ratio, shift of center of gravity, shifting center of pressure etc etc

The center of gravity of the turbofan engine is at the front rather than the afterburner at the rear, and although the ws-15 is 400kg heavier than the ws-13, the thrust is twice as high, that is, 18.2kn. The military thrust is 11kn. As I mentioned before, the KLJ-7B is a digital array radar, using oxidized materials, liquid cooling heat dissipation, the weight will be heavier than the KLJ-7A. So the problems you're talking about, they're not problems.