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'Stealthy and fast': All about the Scorpene submarines that India is set to acquire more of from France
The 3 new submarines are being built by the Mazagon Dock Ltd Shipyard in Mumbai, in partnership with France's Naval Group. They are designed for hunting down enemy submarines & surface ships.
Interestingly, all the six Scorpene submarines built for India do not have the main weapon— heavy-weight torpedoes. They are currently using a Russian-made torpedo that has been given a life extension
You're beating the shadows.....This post shows very little knowledge of Sub warfare. During crisis subs may need to be submerged and on patrol for long periods. Subs with no AIP have to snorkel during this period as often as very few days, presenting themselves as targets. subs with AIP can stay submerged for weeks. That means a pn sub can stay off the coast of West Bengal for weeks and not have to snorkel. Can you understand this?
Main issues with Scorpene, and maybe a reason IN has chosen not to order more is as follows, and unlike you and other Indian posters, I will post the below with supporting evidence and FACTs.
1) Secrets of this sub have been leaked already
"The leak of more than 22,000 pages exposes secrets about the combat capabilities of Scorpene-class vessels."
India: Scorpene submarine data leak 'no security threat'
India says a massive data leak from a French shipbuilder of submarines designed for its navy do not "pose any security compromise".www.bbc.co.uk
2) This sub still has no torpedos, it literally cannot fight other subs
"as the nation’s state-of-the-art Scorpene submarines sit idle without their integral assortment of heavyweight torpedoes."
3) PN assets have forced Scorpene subs to surface on more then one occasion
"According to reports, a Pakistan Navy maritime patrol aircraft observed a submarine on October 16 2021. The accompanying video shows two masts of a submarine. Analysis of the footage suggests that it is a Scorpène class submarine. "
Incident: Indian Navy Submarine Reported In International Waters Off Pakistan - Naval News
A video has surfaced, taken by the Pakistan Navy, showing a submarine operating at periscope depth. The snorkel and an optronic mast (like a periscope) are visible. Initial analysis supports claims that it an Indian Navy type.www.navalnews.com
4) No AOP. DRDO AIP will not be in the first Scorpene for 6-7 years
" If the contract is signed by the end of this year, the first AIP-equipped submarine is expected to join the Indian Navy by 2030-31. "
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Great news... now hope the deal is signed this year only....Base price of Rafale agreed upon, fighters for Navy to have India-specific enhancements
Navy team has already visited Ambala air station where IAF has kept one squadron of Rafales to understand commonalities of maintenance that can be pursued.
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can't wait to see 20 plus of on Vikrant carrier alongside 10 mh 60 romeo helicopters X..will look stunning and menacingOnly 20 Marines on Vikrant? I think number is 26.... when do expect this deal to be signed? This year or next?Great news guys
I am also desperate for India to ink the deal for Rafale F5 with french wingman drones
For me this is the perfect bridge to fifth generation war fighting techniques until 2040 when either Amca comes on board or dare I say we sign for European sixth generation fighter ie Tempest or FCAV
Which I hear is Indian fall back plan
Would love to see Air Rafales numbers approaching 100 in total
The deal will be signed within this FY.
No , we are going to leave them on the deck
I had heard that Rafale in some particular angle can easily fit on our lift.... there is no issue.... but we have to wait till these jets start arriving.... I do not think Indian nave will make such kind of mistake.... if it was the case they would have surely gone ahead with Super Hornets with foldable wings....
