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Pakistani Navy confirms Brazilian jetliner will replace Orion patrol aircraft

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An attendant stands beside a model of the Embraer Lineage 1000 business jet during the Asian Aerospace Show in Hong Kong on March 8, 2011. (Kin Cheung/AP)

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan’s Navy has selected the Embraer Lineage 1000 jetliner to replace its P-3C Orion long-range maritime patrol aircraft, a service spokesman has confirmed to Defense News.

Outgoing naval chief Adm. Adm. Zafar Mahmood Abbasi announced Oct. 6 that the Navy would replace its P-3C Orion fleet with 10 converted commercial jets, the first of which has been ordered. However, he did not identify the type.

The Ministry of Defence Production, which handles acquisition, did not return requests for comment regarding the conversion and possible partners.

With only a single aircraft ordered thus far, the program is in its early stages. When converted for Pakistani service, the aircraft will be called Sea Sultan.

It is unclear if the aircraft is being acquired directly from the manufacturer or another party. Embraer did not respond to requests for comment.

The question of what issues may arise in converting the aircraft was put to Douglas Barrie, an aerospace analyst at the International Institute for Strategic Studies:

“Using a commercial turbofan engine-powered aircraft as the basis for an ASW [anti-submarine warfare] platform is not unheard of. After all, the U.S. P-8 is a Boeing 737-800 derivative," he said.

But there are challenges in conversing the aircraft, he added, "not least of all if internal weapons carriage is required where a bomb bay will need to be cut into the airframe.”

“Significant undertaking and risk management is going to be important,” he said, adding that it’s likely Embraer will be asked to help with the conversion, “otherwise the challenges just get all the greater.”

Frederico Lemos, Embraer’s defense representative who handles business in Asia, did not respond to Defense News' questions about whether the company is or would be involved in the conversion process.
 

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LEONARDO WINS BID TO CONVERT PAKISTAN NAVY EMBRAER LINEAGE 1000s INTO LONG RANGE MPAs
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Pakistan Navy has awarded a contract to Leonardo S.p.A. of Italy for the modification and conversion of 2+1 Embraer Lineage 1000 aircraft into Sea Sultan Long Range Maritime Patrol Aircraft.
The contract initially includes procurement of two Embraer Lineage 1000 aircraft from international vendor(s) and design, modification, installation, integration and operationalisation of three aircraft into MPAs. This will include all Anti Submarine Warfare (ASW) and maritime patrol requirements of the Pakistan Navy.

The Maintenance, Repair & Overhaul (MRO) contract for the 3 aircraft prior to modification has been awarded to the Paramount Group of South Africa. The contract may include options for modifications for a further 7 aircraft that the Pakistan Navy intends to procure in the future.
 
This program may end up being dead in the water due to economics and the P-3s may soldier on with some halfway retrofits on and off.
 
Knowing Pakistan economy and pathetic leadership this project might just die very soon
 
This program may end up being dead in the water due to economics and the P-3s may soldier on with some halfway retrofits on and off.
The PN's procurement efforts could die, but I think Leonardo will likely pull through with offering it as a solution to other countries. Boeing is running away with the market for replacing Orions, so there's been a push from the wider industry to offer an alternative.

This goes beyond the PN, which is why I think the OEMs involved are co-paying (if not footing all of) the R&D funding behind the Sea Sultan on the promise of a decent PN order (ala RAS-72). IMO, if this is the case, we could see the PN buy these incrementally.
 
Given the importance of CPEC and Gawadar to Pakistan, the need to defend it are very high and tied together with CPEC investments. There are other programmes that may get cancelled or thinned out ( JF17C procurements are being thinned out right now ) but i do see Sea Sultan going all the way to procurement for sure.

PN "may" well have negotiated commercials for kick backs for Sea Sultan from the various parties for its part in the requirements process, testing/validation and reference customer, to allow them to design a solution aswell as procurements plans to make the business case viable for the various parties involved ? ( Speculative on my part .. )
 
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This program may end up being dead in the water due to economics and the P-3s may soldier on with some halfway retrofits on and off.
Knowing Pakistan economy and pathetic leadership this project might just die very soon

Three aircraft were previously acquired and are presently undergoing conversion.


▪️ Embraer E190-1000 Lineage [ex- B-3203]
▪️ Embraer E190-1000 Lineage [A6-HHS]
▪️ Embraer E190-1000 Lineage [M-AKKU]



But fingers crossed to get the specified ten aircrafts.


 
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WOW ?!?!?! Does it really have that as a paint job as of now or is that a photoshop addition ??!?!

Perhaps this is a livery for Leonardo to use as a product presentation in an upcoming airshow before it is given to the customer (PN)
 

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The 1st conversion of 5yr age Brazil Embraer Lineage 1000 South ChinaAir VIP Platform into PN Sea Sultan LRMPA. Serial #19000453 Reg B3203 No. 28 MS SqnLeonardo-Paramount MRO. Seaspray Radar Internal weapons bay Rotary magazine
One of the sickest paint jobs I have ever seen. If I ever become rich enough to buy a private jet like the Lineage 1000, I would like a similar paint job on the nose.
 
Knowing Pakistan economy and pathetic leadership this project might just die very soon
That would be blessing otherwise God knows how much money will end up in corruption
 

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