Shaping the future of Air Power ( USA , Turkiye , The UK , France , China )

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USA

Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD)
is a highly classified programme of the US Air Force (USAF) to increase lethality and ensure air superiority in 2030s

It will be complemented by multiple manned aircraft, loyal wingman-style unmanned aerial vehicles, and advanced command, control and communication systems

U.S. Air Force F-22 and F-35A fly in formation with the XQ-58A Drone

TURKIYE

TAI Otonom Kol Uçuşu (OKU / Autonomous Wingman Concept)
Turkiye has created its own indigenous concept. Since the born of the Turkish Fighter KAAN and unmanned Systems like ANKA-3 , SUPER SIMSEK , KIZILELMA

The OKU concept was born to assist the air assets in increasing their air superiority against rapidly changing and developing dynamic operational environments with symmetrical or asymmetrical threats and to assist army and naval forces effectively, which are a part of the joint mission in 2030s

Turkiye is the 1st Country in the world that developed unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
A new era in aviation, Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time

Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün ( President of the Defense Industries )
6th Generation Fighter Jet Announcement!
11.01.2024

"Turkiye has already started working on the 6th generation fighter jet with integrated artificial intelligence."

THE UK

Future Combat Air Acquisition Programme​

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It is embodied by TEMPEST, an international future combat air system that will pioneer new technology, capable of staying ahead of evolving threats
The aim is then for a next generation platform by 2040s

FRANCE

Future Combat Air System (FCAS)​

This represents a milestone in the development of high technology in Europe, using elements such as artificial intelligence, big data analytics, crypto components and human-machine interaction.

This could be followed in the 2040s by manned-unmanned teaming between upgraded existing Fighters

 

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CHINA

China is upgrading its J-20 stealth fighter for manned-unmanned teaming

China reveals tailless concept for next-generation fighter jet

j-20 5th gen stealth Fighter Jet

GJ-11 flying wing stealth UCAV under development

 

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Turkiye is the 1st Country in the world that developed unmanned stealth Fighter Jet
A new era in aviation, Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time

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This statement/claim means nothing when we dont know the distinctive capability of Kizilelma to be called the FIRST.

The first to be called yes, but the first in term of capability/performance is unknown.

US is developing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyal_wingman we don't know what is the capability of Kizilelma that Loyal Wingman is unable to perform worth title the "First" in the world.

 

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This statement/claim means nothing when we dont know the distinctive capability of Kizilelma to be called the FIRST.

KIZILELMA is the first unmanned stealth Fighter Jet in the World



A First in the World: Bayraktar KIZILELMA and Bayraktar AKINCI in Formation Flight


A First in the World:
A new era in aviation, Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time




Basic flight performance criteria

• 5 Hours Endurance
• 1.5 Tons Payload Capacity
• 8.5 Tons Maximum Take-Off Weight
• 0.9 Mach Max Speed
• 30.000 Feet Operational Altitude
• 500 nm Combat Radius
• Length: 14.7 m

Advanced Features

• Fully Autonomous Take Off and Landing
• Low RCS
• High Maneuverability
• LOS and BLOS
• Take Off and Landing Capability from Short-Runway Aircraft Carriers
• High Situational Awareness with AESA Radar

Source ... official website of BAYKAR

https://baykartech.com/en/uav/bayraktar-kizilelma/

KIZILELMA will be equipped with Aselsan MURAD GaN based AESA Radar

and KIZILELMA to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missiles in internal weapon bays

TEI TF-10.000 Turbofan Engine to power the KIZILELMA for supersonic speed

 

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US is developing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyal_wingman we don't know what is the capability of Kizilelma that Loyal Wingman is unable to perform worth title the "First" in the world.

KIZILELMA is not a Loyal Wingman
KIZILELMA is an unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

and American XQ-58 is a toy to compare with KIZILELMA

Kratos XQ-58 ..... USA​

• Length : 9.1 m
• Max takeoff weight : 2,722 kg
• Payload Capacity : 550 kg

NO AESA Radar
NO IRST
NO EOTS
NO strategic strike capability

Bayraktar KIZILELMA .... Turkiye

• Length : 14,7 m
• Max takeoff weight : 8.500 kg
• Payload Capacity : 1.500 kg

KIZILELMA has same advanced characteristics as 5th-generation Fighters

-- High situational awareness with IRST ,EOTS and AESA Radar
-- Stealth design featuring a low radar signature
-- Internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence
-- Strategic strike capability

to carry Missiles in internal weapon bays
100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles for BVR combat
275 km SOM-J Cruise Missiles for SEAD / DEAD role

and there will be twin engine variant which will be bigger than RAFALE Fighter Jet

 

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KIZILELMA is the first unmanned stealth Fighter Jet in the World



A First in the World: Bayraktar KIZILELMA and Bayraktar AKINCI in Formation Flight


A First in the World:
A new era in aviation, Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time




Basic flight performance criteria

• 5 Hours Endurance
• 1.5 Tons Payload Capacity
• 8.5 Tons Maximum Take-Off Weight
• 0.9 Mach Max Speed
• 30.000 Feet Operational Altitude
• 500 nm Combat Radius
• Length: 14.7 m

Advanced Features

• Fully Autonomous Take Off and Landing
• Low RCS
• High Maneuverability
• LOS and BLOS
• Take Off and Landing Capability from Short-Runway Aircraft Carriers
• High Situational Awareness with AESA Radar

Source ... official website of BAYKAR

https://baykartech.com/en/uav/bayraktar-kizilelma/

KIZILELMA will be equipped with Aselsan MURAD GaN based AESA Radar
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and KIZILELMA to carry 100+ km GOKDOGAN BVR air to air Missiles in internal weapon bays

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TEI TF-10.000 Turbofan Engine to power the KIZILELMA for supersonic speed

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There is nothing special from the features you mentioned above, except kizilelma is the first combat/fighting drone that is publicized flying together with F-16 where we haven't seen likewise with other fighter drone.

All subsonic speed, standard max altitude, gan AESA, low RCS, autonomous flying, AI pilot, etc should be possessed by combat drone being developed today, although not openly publicized, so it is only a matter of publication/advertisement.

Regarding the title "first in the world", the first supersonic combat drone should be attributed to AVIC Dark Sword.

 

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KIZILELMA is not a Loyal Wingman
KIZILELMA is an unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

and American XQ-58 is a toy to compare with KIZILELMA

Kratos XQ-58 ..... USA​

• Length : 9.1 m
• Max takeoff weight : 2,722 kg
• Payload Capacity : 550 kg

NO AESA Radar
NO IRST
NO EOTS
NO strategic strike capability
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Bayraktar KIZILELMA .... Turkiye

• Length : 14,7 m
• Max takeoff weight : 8.500 kg
• Payload Capacity : 1.500 kg

KIZILELMA has same advanced characteristics as 5th-generation Fighters

-- High situational awareness with IRST ,EOTS and AESA Radar
-- Stealth design featuring a low radar signature
-- Internal weapon bay for stealth flight capability
-- Smart fleet autonomy equipped with artificial intelligence
-- Strategic strike capability

to carry Missiles in internal weapon bays
100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles for BVR combat
275 km SOM-J Cruise Missiles for SEAD / DEAD role

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and there will be twin engine variant which will be bigger than RAFALE Fighter Jet
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Doesn't matter it is loyal wing man or not, as long as they can do air fighting they could be called fighter drone too, so it is only a matter of name.

Although they dont mention/advertised AESA, AAM etc doesnt mean they won't have.

The development of fighter drones, or unmanned combat air vehicles (UCAVs) designed for air-to-air combat as well as ground attack roles, represents a cutting-edge frontier in military aviation technology. Beyond Turkey's Kızılelma, several other countries have been working on or have expressed interest in developing similar capabilities. These projects aim to augment or even revolutionize air combat strategy by introducing unmanned platforms capable of performing tasks traditionally reserved for manned fighter jets. Here are a few notable examples:

United States​

• XQ-58 Valkyrie: Developed by Kratos Defense & Security Solutions in collaboration with the United States Air Force, the XQ-58 Valkyrie is designed as a high-speed, stealthy, unmanned aircraft capable of a variety of missions. While initially focused on serving as a "loyal wingman" to manned aircraft, its capabilities suggest potential for air-to-air combat roles.
• MQ-28 Ghost Bat (formerly known as the Loyal Wingman): Developed by Boeing for the Royal Australian Air Force, this drone is designed to operate alongside crewed aircraft, providing support and extending the capabilities of human pilots. Its mission set could potentially include air-to-air engagements, depending on future developments.

China​

• GJ-11 Sharp Sword: A stealth UCAV designed for reconnaissance and strike missions, the GJ-11 demonstrates China's advances in unmanned aerial technology. While primarily focused on ground attack, the progression of such technology could eventually encompass air-to-air roles.

Russia​

• Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik-B (Hunter-B): This stealth heavy UCAV is designed to perform a variety of missions, including striking targets with precision-guided munitions. Its development alongside Russia's fifth-generation fighters suggests a complementary role that could evolve into more direct combat functions.

United Kingdom​

• LANCA (Lightweight Affordable Novel Combat Aircraft): Part of the UK's Future Combat Air System, LANCA is envisioned to provide a range of capabilities including acting as a loyal wingman and potentially engaging in combat missions directly.

There is no reason why major power like US and China doesn't develop fighter drone since they have all technology needed above Turkiye, unless they consider it wont be usefull in real combat.

 

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Regarding the title "first in the world", the first supersonic combat drone should be attributed to AVIC Dark Sword.

Which is nothing except Chinese propaganda

No any video about the first flight and test flights

 

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Which is nothing except Chinese propaganda

No any video about the first flight and test flights

Everybody know China keep their weapon development from publicity. So it is funny to see you call Dark Sword drone as Chinese propaganda when we give you little information we have.

 

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The development of fighter drones, or unmanned combat air vehicles (UCAVs) designed for air-to-air combat as well as ground attack roles, represents a cutting-edge frontier in military aviation technology. Beyond Turkey's Kızılelma, several other countries have been working on or have expressed interest in developing similar capabilities.

And Turkiye was the first country in the world that developed an unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

Its technology of future


btw The UK cancelled LANCA program

and Chinese GJ-11 or Russian S-70 are not unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

They are flying wing stealth UCAVs as like Turkish ANKA-3 , American X-47 , British TARANIS , French NEURON



Turkish ANKA-3 also will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar and air to air Missiles

Good luck to enemies they will need it


Speed : mach 0,7
Altitude : 40.000 feet
MTOW : 6.500 kg
Payload : 1.200 kg
Endurance : 10 hours

AESA Radar
LoS/BLOS (Satellite Control) capabilities

SEAD/DEAD role
Strategic strike
Deep strike

-- Full of composite material
-- Internal weapon bay
-- The exhaust will be inside the body to reduce its RCS
-- The infrared trace will be reduced by mixing the cold air with the hot air of the engine
-- The V-shaped aircraft does not have horizontal and vertical stabilisation to reduce RCS

 

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And Turkiye was the first country in the world to develop an unmanned stealth Fighter Jet


Chinese GJ-11 or Russian S-70 are not unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

They are flying wing stealth UCAVs as like Turkish ANKA-3 , American X-47 , British TARANIS , French NEURON



Turkish ANKA-3 also will be equipped with MURAD AESA Radar and air to air Missiles


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Godd luck to enemies they will need it


Speed : mach 0,7
Altitude : 40.000 feet
MTOW : 6.500 kg
Payload : 1.200 kg
Endurance : 10 hours

AESA Radar
LoS/BLOS (Satellite Control) capabilities

SEAD/DEAD role
Strategic strike
Deep strike

-- Full of composite material
-- Internal weapon bay
-- The exhaust will be inside the body to reduce its RCS
-- The infrared trace will be reduced by mixing the cold air with the hot air of the engine
-- The V-shaped aircraft does not have horizontal and vertical stabilisation to reduce RCS

You dont know what GJ-11 is capable as it's capability is not openly publicized.

Again, it is only a matter of advertisement / publication.
Nobody believe that Turkiye is more capable than US or China in term of fighter drone development. And nobody believes that both China and US don't develop it unless those fighting drone is useless.

Only fool who think the only advertised one is the real one while those in secretive is not existent. LOL

 

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Nobody believe that Turkiye is more capable than US or China in term of fighter drone development. And nobody believes that both China and US don't develop it unless those fighting drone is useless.

secret projects ? what a pathetic way to reject the facts

Nobody cares about Chinese propaganda
only fool can believe Chinese propaganda
and only fool can say that unmanned stealth Fighter Jet is useless ....its technology of future

I am showing real platforms like Turkish KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 to everyone
and reality hurts Chinese users

Turkish unmanned technologies of course superior to Chinese unmanned technologies now ......

and American XQ-58 is İNFERİOR platform to compare with Turkish KIZILELMA

 

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secret projects ? what a pathetic way to reject the facts

Nobody cares about Chinese propaganda
only fool can believe Chinese propaganda
and only fool can say that unmanned stealth Fighter Jet is useless ....its technology of future

I am showing real platforms like Turkish KIZILELMA , ANKA-3 to everyone
and reality hurts Chinese users

Turkish unmanned technologies of course superior to Chinese unmanned technologies now ......

and American XQ-58 is İNFERİOR platform to compare with Turkish KIZILELMA

LOL.

Funny delusional. What make you think that Turkiye is the only one country that is capable to develop fighter drone?

Do you know China and US are the leader in AI, AESA, air to air missile, autonomous, etc? Turkiye is not in the list when it comes to autonomous, AI robotic, quantum communication, gan AESA etc.

This is PL-15 with AESA radar installed on it:

PL-15E: China's jet fighters just got more deadly - Asia Times

Speaker after speaker at the recent 2021 Air, Space & Cyber Conference, expressed the same urgency -- a desire to accelerate modernization to deter

asiatimes.com

It is not difficult for China (and US) to install AESA on missile, more over on drone.
Can Turkiye install AESA on AA missile? LOL

 

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Funny delusional. What make you think that Turkiye is the only one country that is capable to develop fighter drone?

not only country
but the first country

Turkish KIZILELMA enter mass production this year
USA has XQ-58 project but its inferior platform to compare with KIZILELMA
The UK cancelled LANCA program
China doesnt have any platform yet ......

read my posts again instead of trolling and crying

 

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Do you know China and US are the leader in AI, AESA, air to air missile, autonomous, etc? Turkiye is not in the list when it comes to autonomous, AI robotic, quantum communication, gan AESA etc.

China is not leader in anything
but Turkiye is leader in unmanned stealth Fighter Jet technology ... and its technology of future


and Turkiye has everything including GaN AESA Radar technology
Turkiye takes its place among the few countries in the global arena with this technology with 100% national resources, from chip level to final system integration



Aselsan MURAD AESA Radar made its first flight with the F-16, which was localized within the scope of the OZGUR Project

next platforms are AKINCI , HÜRJET, KIZILELMA, ANKA-3

also BURFIS AESA Radar on the way with 2.000+ T/R GaN modules