TF-X / KAAN / Hürjet Turkish Fighter & Trainer Aircrafts News & Discussions

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We compared the radar detection ranges of the 5th generation national combat aircraft KAAN against other Fighter Jets based on estimated data


RCS
KAAN : 0.0030 m2
F-35 : 0.0015 m2
SU-57 : 0.0700 m2
KF-21 : 0.1000 m2

Engagement
F-35 vs KAAN : 28km vs 40 km
SU-57 vs KAAN : 25 km vs 102 km
KF-21 vs KAAN : 18 km vs 137 km


BURFIS AESA Radar is based on detecting aircraft with 1m2 RCS from 200 km.



40 kw BURFIS AESA Radar with GaN technology ... ( 2.000+ T/R modules )

https://twitter.com/x/status/1757479923323732315

 

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Images taken on the production line of the curved air inlet design, which is the 5th generation feature of the National Combat Aircraft KAAN and prevents radar waves from reaching the engine, have emerged.

The images also include the location of the internal weapon station chamber in the fuselage.

 

[hyperman]

iron bird stays there for forever until last changes made , it is a test platform for every load and physical upgrades

I guess we will see, the postings on twitter mentioned it as a 2nd prototype.

 

[Antonius123]

We compared the radar detection ranges of the 5th generation national combat aircraft KAAN against other Fighter Jets based on estimated data


RCS
KAAN : 0.0030 m2
F-35 : 0.0015 m2
SU-57 : 0.0700 m2
KF-21 : 0.1000 m2

Engagement
F-35 vs KAAN : 28km vs 40 km
SU-57 vs KAAN : 25 km vs 102 km
KF-21 vs KAAN : 18 km vs 137 km


BURFIS AESA Radar is based on detecting aircraft with 1m2 RCS from 200 km.
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40 kw BURFIS AESA Radar with GaN technology ... ( 2.000+ T/R modules )
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1757479923323732315

There is no official data regarding RCS of Kaan and Burfis AESA.

The data you presented here is too fantastic considering experience and technology level of Turkey.

 

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There is no official data regarding RCS of Kaan and Burfis AESA.

The data you presented here is too fantastic considering experience and technology level of Turkey.

Turkiye is not Indonesia
If you dont know nothing about Turkish Defense İndustry , its your problem


Turkish ASELSAN is one of the best defense industry in the world for electronic and avionic systems , EW systems and GaN based AESA Radars

Turkish ASELSAN has 5 AESA Radars with GAN technology
-- MURAD airborne AESA Radar with 1.000+ T/R modules for F16 , AKINCI , KIZILELMA
-- BURFIS airborne AESA Radar with 2000+ T/R modules for KAAN Fighter Jet
-- CENK naval AESA Radar with 4.000+ T/R modules for ISTIF class Frigate
-- CAFRAD naval AESA Radar for TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- ERALP early warning AESA Radar for SIPER high altitute Air Defense System


ASELSAN and TAI says KAAN will detect 4th gen Fighter Jets like F-16 , RAFALE ( RCS of 1m2 ) from 200 km

Thanks to 40kw monster Radar BURFIS with 2.000+ T/R modules GaN technology

KAAN has bigger nose than F-22 to carry 40kw monster Radar BURFIS

While HMDS, IRST and EOTS systems, which are not available in the F-22, stand out in KAAN.

The AESA radar field appears to be wider.



therefore Turkiye develops at least 200 km GOKHAN ramjet powered long range air to air Missile to use by KAAN in BVR combat


and KAAN has stealth design , advanced magnetic coating , RAM panel layer and internal weapon bay

it could RCS value for X band 10GHz as 0.003 m2 [ -25dbsqm ]
offical demonstration


Turkiye develops KAAN for first look , first fire and first kill capability

with very low RCS
with powerful AESA Radar
with 200 km GOKHAN ramjet powered long range air to air Missile

 

[Antonius123]

Turkiye is not Indonesia
If you dont know nothing about Turkish Defense İndustry , its your problem


Turkish ASELSAN is one of the best defense industry in the world for electronic and avionic systems , EW systems and GaN based AESA Radars

Turkish ASELSAN has 5 AESA Radars with GAN technology
-- MURAD airborne AESA Radar with 1.000+ T/R modules for F16 , AKINCI , KIZILELMA
-- BURFIS airborne AESA Radar with 2000+ T/R modules for KAAN Fighter Jet
-- CENK naval AESA Radar with 4.000+ T/R modules for ISTIF class Frigate
-- CAFRAD naval AESA Radar for TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- ERALP early warning AESA Radar for SIPER high altitute Air Defense System


ASELSAN and TAI says KAAN will detect 4th gen Fighter Jets like F-16 , RAFALE ( RCS of 1m2 ) from 200 km

Thanks to 40kw monster Radar BURFIS with 2.000+ T/R modules GaN technology

KAAN has bigger nose than F-22 to carry 40kw monster Radar BURFIS
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therefore Turkiye develops 200+ km GOKHAN ramjet powered long range air to air Missile to use by KAAN in BVR combat


and KAAN has stealth design , advanced magnetic coating , RAM panel layer and internal weapon bay

it could RCS value for X band 10GHz as 0.003 m2 [ -25dbsqm ]
offical demonstration
View attachment 19577

Turkiye develops KAAN for first look , first fire and first kill capability

with very low RCS
with powerful AESA Radar
with 200+ km GOKHAN ramjet powered long range air to air Missile

I am afraid you yourself don't know about it.

TF-X is still in development, plan to be introduced in year 2028, so you are comparing the fighter plane in development vs existing flying like F-35, SU-57, etc.

BURFIS is designed specifically for the F-16C/D Block 50/52+ fighter jets; it is still being in development, BURFIS's actual performance remains unproven in real-world scenarios. Specific details about its detection range, resolution, or other crucial performance metrics haven't been officially released. The picture you present is just a mock up.

Currently only US and China that are able to produce Gallium Nitride based AESA radar. The rest from other countries (France, Israel, British, Sweden, Japan, South Korea) are still in developments

Not far from the time frame TF-X introduced, there will be some 6th generation fighter introduced as well by US/China, and more advanced F-35/F-22/J-20 versions and J-35.

The powerplant for TF-X is GE F-110 not the best in the world.

 

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TF-X is still in development, plan to be introduced in year 2028, so you are comparing the fighter plane in development vs existing flying like F-35, SU-57, etc.

AESA Radar and stealth capabilities are nothing to do with first flight
We very well know what about KAAN in technology

also KAAN is not on paper and Loading %99 for first flight

 

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BURFIS is designed specifically for the F-16C/D Block 50/52+ fighter jets; it is still being in development, BURFIS's actual performance remains unproven in real-world scenarios.

Wth is real war senario ?

Turkiye is not İndonesia who can not develop even AESA Radar
Turkiye already developed AESA Radars with GaN technology for ISTIF class LHD and SIPER Air Defense System




The ERALP-Early Warning Radar detect stealth technology or low radar cross-section targets from long ranges which offers the capability of making hidden aerial threats visible


so BURFIS AESA Radar designed specifically for the F-35 , SU-57 , etc

 

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Currently only US and China that are able to produce Gallium Nitride based AESA radar. The rest from other countries (France, Israel, British, Sweden, Japan, South Korea) are still in developments

What a joke

Turkish MURAD AESA Radar with Gan technology was integrated into AKINCI UCAV
and in 2024 into the F-16S and KIZILELMA

MURAD airborne AESA Radar with 1.000+ T/R modules for F16 , AKINCI , KIZILELMA

Turkish AESA Radar is integrated into Akıncı UCAV | TURDEF

ASELSAN's MURAD AESA Radar is integrated into AKINCI UCAV, it is counting down for first flight aboard.

www.turdef.com

 

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Not far from the time frame TF-X introduced, there will be some 6th generation fighter introduced as well by US/China, and more advanced F-35/F-22/J-20 versions and J-35.

USA and Turkiye rules the future tactical Air combat for 2030

USA
F-35
MQ-28
X-47B

Turkiye
KAAN
KIZILELMA
ANKA-3 and ANKA-4

Even Turkish unmanned stealth Fighter Jets will be enough for other Countries which only can dream about it



full data-to-decision (D2D) capability for multi-layered distributed team of diverse manned aircraft working in concert with unmanned types ( KAAN , ANKA-3, KIZILELMA )








KIZILELMA and ANKA-4 will help KAAN for BVR combat

First time in the world​

A new era in aviation, Unmanned fighter jet and manned fighter jet flew together at the same time

btw Turkiye has already started developing the 6th gen Fighter Jet

Prof. Dr. Haluk Görgün ( President of the Defense Industries )
6th Generation Fighter Jet Announcement!
11.01.2024

"We have already started working on the 6th generation fighter jet with integrated artificial intelligence."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1745741583364792344

 

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The powerplant for TF-X is GE F-110 not the best in the world.

Even GE F-110-129 Engine is enough to match with Russian and Chinese Engine

and 35.000 lbf Turkish turbofan Engine will be ready in 2028 for the first flight
and in 2032 for the mass production of KAAN Fighter Jet

the design presented for the Engine that has been under development for 2 years


10.000 lbf turbofan Engine first ignition in 2024



Our stealth platforms like KAAN . ANKA-3 , KIZILELMA turned into reality from paper projects

We are only waiting for TF-6.000 , TF-10.000 and TF-35.000 turbofan Engines to turn our platforms into full of indigenous

 

[ApexWarrior]

Even GE F-110-129 Engine is enough to match with Russian and Chinese Engine

and 35.000 lbf Turkish turbofan Engine will be ready in 2028 for the first flight
and in 2032 for the mass production of KAAN Fighter Jet

the design presented for the Engine that has been under development for 2 years
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10.000 lbf turbofan Engine first ignition in 2024
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Our stealth platforms like KAAN . ANKA-3 , KIZILELMA turned into reality from paper projects

We are only waiting for TF-6.000 , TF-10.000 and TF-35.000 turbofan Engines to turn our platforms into full of indigenous

Is Turkey getting assistance from UK or any other Country?

 

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Is Turkey getting assistance from UK or any other Country?

Turkiye received technical assistance only during the design phase from the UK ( BAE Systems )

But there was not technology transfer
and BAE Systems did not provide as much technical support as we wanted


TAI has already did an excellent job with HURJET and ANKA-3
( Smooth and perfect first flights )

We dont worry about the first flight of KAAN
We dont worry about technology of KAAN
great stealth design , advanced magnetic coating , RAM panel layer and internal weapon bay , AESA Radar , HMDS , IRST , EOTS , DIRCM , etc

We are only waiting for 35.000 lbf indigenous Turbofan Engine with the latest technologies

 

[Tornado]

Whats magnetic coating?, what does it do?